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    Do any other aircraft apart from the IL-2 get the 23mm YVA? Any of the Yaks for example?
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    clint-ruin's Avatar Senior Member
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    LaGG-3 S29 and 35 have it as an optional loadout. If you go play Lo:MAC, you will see a very slightly modified VYa on the ZSU-23 :>
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    Thanks,

    that makes the ZSU-23-4 one evil low level AA device. I noticed that the barrels on the ZSU's have jackets and are water cooled, I guess the LaGG's didnt carry enough ammo to really cook. Has anyone done a definative list of armaments/ammo loads for FB/AEP/PF aircraft? as I have found the object veiwer vague on some issues.


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    try out yak9t, 9m and 9k

    37mm,37mm and 45mm cannon, use 100m convergance

    aa guns have water cos they will fire for long durations i guess. while a aircraft should fire short bursts, plus russian winter might help cooling
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    considering its ballistics & those of the gun that replaced it , im amazed that they dropped it in 45
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    Try this site here:

    http://magnum-pc.netfirms.com/mudmov...1/loadouts.htm

    The same page does not seem to have been replicated at airwarfare.com as yet.

    For ammo and firing time per gun [again outdated]

    http://fafgci.sqn.fr.free.fr/nouveau_fichier16.html

    For belt composition in game, again outdated:

    http://magnum-pc.netfirms.com/mudmov..._oleg_07.5.htm

    Scroll down about 3/4 through the page to get to the table.

    The ZSU also couldn't depend on having a 300-400kmh cold airflow going around the barrel while it fired too. Quite a few aircraft guns started out their evolution as antitank weapons - the Browning .50 cals lineage goes back that way too, and also ended up in heavy barrel/water jacket configurations for grunt work.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
    considering its ballistics & those of the gun that replaced it , im amazed that they dropped it in 45 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    They had the N-23 and N-37 after that point - better guns for their purposes, and still ended up being a bit rough for high speed jet combat on the Mig-15/17.
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    their MV dropped by a third

    the cannon on the Sturmovik are good for A2A because of their shell speed

    this game has showen me that A2A gunnery is hard !

    anything that makes it eaiser is Badly needed for the gunzo restricted Fighter pilot

    & the VYA replacements seemed the opposite way to go to me , but then again , im not a 1940's A/C engineer
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    They stuck a low velocity 37mm on the thing for the same reason the P-39 ended up with one - the intended target was the bomber it was designed to intercept, and a B-29 or B-36 isn't exactly going to need a massively high velocity or high ROF weapon to bring down, just something that hits hard and travels along a reasonably predictable path. The N/NR23 was, I think, shown to be a much better weapon against jets than 6 nose mounted .50 cals at least, and absolutely a better weapon against bombers.
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    VYa-23 was too heavy.. so replaced by NS-23 with lower velocity but much lighter. But I love VYa
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