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    So I was 2 days out of St. Nazaire, December 12th 1943, on my 5th Atlantic patrol, when I was attacked by three destroyers. These guys just would not give up, and I found myself going deeper and deeper to try to lose them. I did everything I could to shake them, but nothing seemed to work. I kept getting depth charged, but we all know depth charges are no real threat, right? Wrong! I was at 160 meters when a depth charge actually hit the sky periscope (I know because I was looking through it at the time to see if I could see anything helpful). Of course, the conning tower immediately goes red and I scurry to the damage control to see if anything else was hit. We were really lucky - the tower contained the blast.

    But the destroyers didn't stop there. The next depth charge attack damages the zentrale, the radio room and the forward sleeping quarters. Immediately water gushes in at high pressure. I have a damage team in place, and they immediately go to work. I'm hanging onto this career by the skin of my teeth! The damage team gets the zentrale leaks stopped and moves on to the radio room, the men stop the leak there, and move to the sleeping quarters which is filling rapidly with water. I can see that they're going to stop the leak, but just then we get fuel leaking into the boat and the radio room turns from yellow to red. The boat starts to go down. I'm losing her.

    I shout 'Ausblasen!' and 'Auesserste kraft voraus!' - maybe if I blow the tanks and get the boat to the surface I can save my crew's lives. I send the damage team to the radio room to see if anything can be done - Verdammt doch mal! I didn't know a compartment could even turn red without killing you. Suddenly another depth charge hits the aft torpedo room and I can see I only have seconds left. I have time to send the repair team to stop the leak, but just as I do that, three aft compartments turn red. My last thoughts were of my family. I was not expecting to see them this Christmas (I was meant to be on patrol for at least 3 weeks), but I would never get to spend another Christmas with them.

    My family (and the families of my crew) were finally notified in May 1944 that U-439 was missing, presumed destroyed.

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    It just goes to show that depth charges can be VERY deadly. I've seen so many people complain that they're ineffective. Tell that to Peter Geller and the crew of U-439, who went down to a watery grave in the Atlantic in the winter of 1943. And it's not like I take risks when I'm playing. I did my level best to get the boat out of that situation. I used all the lessons of the U-Boat Commander's Handbook, but nothing helped.
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    I'm glad to hear about this because I haven't had this experience yet. Sounds like they are much improved in '43 but have you ran into the same thing with convoys yet. I'm in mid-41 now and keep getting sent to BE65(3 times in a row) and I've only seen one destroyer(Convoy escort). How many repair qualified guys do you have? I've only got the one officer but have seen that some guys have 2 warrant officers repair qualified in their crew. Once the bar goes green it doesn't matter who else is in there right?
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    you made it to the end of 1943, not many commanders made it to that time.. you should be proud of yourself
    i am still in 1941, commanding a type VIIB and i barely made it out alive when i got cornered by a destroyer and 3 patrol boats.. to make matters worse, depth under keel was 33 meters! i immediately setup a damage team and dove to 20 meters all ahead slow.. after about 5 mins the destroyer detected me and dropped a few depth charges i ordered all ahead flank right full rudder took a few hits to my stern, but the damage team took care of that. then i ordered periscope depth hoping i'd get a lucky shot at the destroyer, she was positioned bearing about 200deg so i quickly switched my stern torpedo to magnetic and 7 meters depth, got the solution from my weapons officer and fired the tropedo. she was about 430 meters away from me, but was going about 15 knots and was making a hard turn for another pass at me. at this point, the patrol boats were firing machine guns at my periscope so i dove and waited to see if the torpedo would hit, but no luck.. so i decided to take my chances close to the bottom. i ordered 32 meters but once i reached there, i noticed the time compression turned orange color, perhaps this was due to my proximity to the sea floor.. but to my surprise after i ordered silent running the destroyer managed to get a few pings on me but dropped the charges at a distance and eventually lost me! took about 20 minutes then i ordered 25 meters to be on the safe side and waited for another 1 hr in time compression then periscope depth.. they were all gone. only damage i got from that encounter was 91% hull integrity
    now, if this encounter was in 1944, i have no doubt i would've met a quick end.
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    It all depends on the destroyer crew. Much like early U-Boat crews, early destroyer crews are fairly useless. That's why the Ubootwaffe called 1939 to 1941 the happy times.

    As for convoys, there's a bug that's been identified that stops many of the destroyers (that are supposed to be escorting convoys) from showing up. I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

    Repair guys - same as you: one officer and just regular crewmen. Yup: once the bar is green you're all set.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blue_76:
    you made it to 1944, not many commanders made it to that time.. you should be proud of yourself <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Hehe, I didn't quite make it to '44, and sadly, I started in May '43, so I only lasted 5 patrols (or 7 months).
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blue_76:
    if this encounter was in 1944, i have no doubt i would've met a quick end. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I've run two careers in 1943, and after 6 patrols I can assure everyone that 1943 is no picnic - not at all. If 1943 is this difficult, 1944 is only going to be worse. It is at least 'possible' to survive long-term in 1943, if you're lucky and very smart. I can't imagine what 1944 must be like, with veteran destroyer crews and all that anti U-Boat technology.

    I just hope the developers keep the depth charges and AI the same in all later patches, because in my opinion it's perfect as it is. Yesterday, in another 1943 patrol, I was driven off from a huge convoy by three destroyers. I was lucky then because they never managed to get a solid fix on my boat. Once they get you fixed, there is no escape.
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    fixed that, don't know why i put 1944, must be the time.. almost 2am lol anyway, 5 patrols in '43 is still very good. what are your realism settings? i have mine on 91% with event view and weapons officer solutions.
    the thing that impressed me about my situation was the fact that earlier i had sunk a t3 tanker and 2 c3 cargo ships in the same area.. not long after that i encountered the destroyer with the patrol boats.. so one of the victims must've radioed in
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    Its funny, I ran into a large convoy full of military supplies which were being shipped on about 4-5 C3's, 6 C2's, a large number of smaller merchant ships and also a nice amount of destroyers patrolling the area.

    I sank 3 merchant ships, 1 looked to be full of oil drums, the other 2 looked to be carrying tanks and supplies. Then I see that I've been spotted by several destroyers, but before I submerged into a crash dive, I radio'd it in. When I was about 30 meter's under the water and rigged for silent running, It started to look as if it were raining under the ocean. Looking harder, I see a line of destroyers coming my way at high speeds, each of them tossing depth charges like mad into the water. I see this big wall of barrels coming my way, suprised to say that I made it, my sub was severly damaged, but I made it.

    Yea, I would say depth charges if close enough can cause some serious damage, other then that they just rock your sub from side to side.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blue_76:
    fixed that, don't know why i put 1944, must be the time.. almost 2am lol anyway, 5 patrols in '43 is still very good. what are your realism settings? i have mine on 91% with event view and weapons officer solutions. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I don't know what the percentage is, but the only thing I have that's not realistic is the free camera view, and I never use that in a situation where it would give me an unfair advantage.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blue_76:
    the thing that impressed me about my situation was the fact that earlier i had sunk a t3 tanker and 2 c3 cargo ships in the same area.. not long after that i encountered the destroyer with the patrol boats.. so one of the victims must've radioed in <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I had that happen yesterday. In my other 1943 career (the one where my commander is still among the living) I was patrolling the islands west of Scotland (shortly before I attacked the convoy I was talking about before) when I found and torpedoed a C3. Shortly afterwards the place was crawling with destroyers and I even saw an ASW plane (fortunately it didn't see my periscope).
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