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    Despite some nine month┬┤s cross-Channel sparring,technically the Focke-Wulf remained very much an unknown quantity to the RAF.they were desperate to get their hands on a captured example,but those wich had been bested in combat had either crasched in German held territory or where at the bottom of the Channel.
    Some bizarre ideas were put forward to procure an airworthy specimen.One serving RAF pilot even suggested that a captured Bf 109 be returned to its original Luftwaffe markings,with spurious battle damage added for effect,and piloted by a German-speaking pilot suitably attired in Jagdwaffe flying gear,to one of JG 26`s bases under cover of a massive RAF fighter sweep.having landed his "crippled" machine,the pilot would demand a replacement-if no Bf 109s were aviable an Fw 190 would have to suffice-in order to return to the fray.Once back in the air with his prize,the "Luftwaffe" pilot would immediately head at top speed and zero altitude back across the Channel to the nearest RAF airfield.

    A less fanciful sheme were to commandos to bring a pilot undetected within observation range of one of JG 26┬┤s fields near the coast,where he would go into hiding,study the bases┬┤s routine and select the opportune moment to steal a Focke-Wulf being readied for flight.It was given seroius consideration even being allocated the code name Airthief.An extraordinary coincidence saw Airthief overtaken by events on the very day it had been formally submitted in writing to Combined Opertaions.

    Oberleutnant Arnim Faber become disorientated during aircombat,convinced he headed home to France over the English Channel but in fact the stretch of water beneath his wings was the Bristol Channel and the landfall looming ahead was South Wales.His fuel situation now precarious,Faber made for the nearest airfield he could see,but could not resist performing a victory roll and cockily extending his undercarrige while inverted,before touching down,at RAF Pembrey.His intact Fw 190A-3 was one of the major intelligence prizes of the entire war. Little wonder that his tounge-in-cheek offer to take it back up and demonstrate to the RAF what it could really do-if they would just refuel it for him,please-was turned down flat!

    Taken from the "Aircraft of the aces-Fw 190 aces on the attack"
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    Despite some nine month┬┤s cross-Channel sparring,technically the Focke-Wulf remained very much an unknown quantity to the RAF.they were desperate to get their hands on a captured example,but those wich had been bested in combat had either crasched in German held territory or where at the bottom of the Channel.
    Some bizarre ideas were put forward to procure an airworthy specimen.One serving RAF pilot even suggested that a captured Bf 109 be returned to its original Luftwaffe markings,with spurious battle damage added for effect,and piloted by a German-speaking pilot suitably attired in Jagdwaffe flying gear,to one of JG 26`s bases under cover of a massive RAF fighter sweep.having landed his "crippled" machine,the pilot would demand a replacement-if no Bf 109s were aviable an Fw 190 would have to suffice-in order to return to the fray.Once back in the air with his prize,the "Luftwaffe" pilot would immediately head at top speed and zero altitude back across the Channel to the nearest RAF airfield.

    A less fanciful sheme were to commandos to bring a pilot undetected within observation range of one of JG 26┬┤s fields near the coast,where he would go into hiding,study the bases┬┤s routine and select the opportune moment to steal a Focke-Wulf being readied for flight.It was given seroius consideration even being allocated the code name Airthief.An extraordinary coincidence saw Airthief overtaken by events on the very day it had been formally submitted in writing to Combined Opertaions.

    Oberleutnant Arnim Faber become disorientated during aircombat,convinced he headed home to France over the English Channel but in fact the stretch of water beneath his wings was the Bristol Channel and the landfall looming ahead was South Wales.His fuel situation now precarious,Faber made for the nearest airfield he could see,but could not resist performing a victory roll and cockily extending his undercarrige while inverted,before touching down,at RAF Pembrey.His intact Fw 190A-3 was one of the major intelligence prizes of the entire war. Little wonder that his tounge-in-cheek offer to take it back up and demonstrate to the RAF what it could really do-if they would just refuel it for him,please-was turned down flat!

    Taken from the "Aircraft of the aces-Fw 190 aces on the attack"
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    "Wait...that's not France!!!"

    Interesting story.
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    I'd like to know the British response to that... just guessing but probably the first time the brits had a sense of humor failure..
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    Hehe, you have to wonder why he didnt notice the roundels on the aircraft at the airfield, and also the gunners didnt shoot at him!

    I guess a Welsh airfield is far away from teh front an dhad few AAA guns.

    The last bit reminds me of Bader and Galland talking after he was taken POW in Gallands book 'The first and the Last'. Galland was showing him the Bf109 and Bader asked him if he could take it up for a spin, I guess because of Baders charisma (it is said he had the aura of a real leader of men, probably a real ******* too ), Galland said he nearly agreed!

    Bader of course would have been straight back across the channel if he had let him, Galland made the right decision..
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    Oberleutnant Arnim Faber must have missed the lesson at flying school where they explain how a compass works...

    Cheers,

    P8.
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    Grab an Atlas.
    Read the anectote again.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HuninMunin:
    Grab an Atlas.
    Read the anectote again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Pembrey is in Wales and so is NORTH of the Bristol Channel. Faber must have flown on a reciprocal bearing, thinking he was heading South when in fact he was heading North. What an idiot.

    Cheers,

    P8.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pluto8742:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HuninMunin:
    Grab an Atlas.
    Read the anectote again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Pembrey is in Wales and so is NORTH of the Bristol Channel. Faber must have flown on a reciprocal bearing, thinking he was heading South when in fact he was heading North. What an idiot.

    Cheers,

    P8. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That was my first thought when I studied a map of Wales after first reading about this incident.
    Another possible point, if his fuel state was precarious, then he may well have been forced to land somewhere else in the UK anyway.
    I wonder what the German translation is for "arrgh bollocks" and if Faber muttered it when he realized his mistake ?
    P.S. Does anyone know if the aircraft involved survived the war?
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    The pilot selected for operation airthief was Jeffrey Quill, one of Supermarine's chief test pilots...I'm in the middle of reading his excellent account of his experiences during the war, "Sptifire, A Test Pilot's Story".

    The plan was for one commando, Philip Pinckney, and Jeffrey Quill to go alone into occupied France from a gunboat, and then steal a FW190...no details given about how they would get close to the plane. The whole scheme was concocted by Pinckney and Quill in Quill's garden, no doubt after they had enjoyed a few glasses of Pimms
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