Originally Posted by nairda2k9 Go to original post
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Everything you said is true. They are liars and I do not like liars...guess being truthful and honest and open is not part of ubisoft/Massive's company policy ...lie at any cost to keep gamers playing ...no matter how many cheaters or online bullying there is...the only thing the dz has benefitted is rogues they even get rewarded for killing players for going manhunt...they never attack 4vs4 always 4vs2 or 1.
If they go rogue in my opinion none of their division skills should work at all they lose everything. .everything gets **** off...no turrets. .support stations no nothing just their gear and guns...they should be at a disadvantage nor an advantage of any sort.
RNG is b.s. I got the big A and both new sniper rifles from exotic caches I saved before 1.8 was released have not seen a house and I opened 95 GE caches last GE..still looking for classified lone star knee pads all I get are regular ones...will never get the classified PM backpack I am missing for the 6th piece.
The only exotics that drop for me in the underground are the regular ones you can buy or drop from the LZ bosses haven't seen a house down there. They took out all the dtech from wsp that was on the pts which was b.s. all because they want people in the dz to get killed.
I haven't been in the dz for two months and I am not going in there if it takes me 6 months to get enough dtech by deconstructing gear then so be it I won't go in there to complete the weekly or daily dz assignment until they decide that rogues don't get benefitted in any way...they should lose a level of rank when they get killed maybe that will make them think more about going rogue then.
I refuse to participate in an area where you have to fight over gear just to keep it.
LZ bosses drop only Skull MC gloves, Caduceus and Tenebrae. I've killed them literally thousands of times. These are the only possible drops (for exotics). So, you sir, are mistaken.
As to another point; rogues have an enormous advantage in this game. Precisely why I avoid the DZ as a PvE-centric player and wish all others would do the same until the DZ died or a PvE DZ is added.
Why ur so sure about that?Originally Posted by stefenanthony Go to original post
I've said it before and I'll say it again... it's pure hubris.Originally Posted by stefenanthony Go to original post
Premise: Make players fight over gear. Now regardless of my personal opinion of this premise for a game, I'm not so biased that I can't see the appeal to that premise of a game mode.
But beyond that premise is where the developers have erred. It's basically a King of Hill game mode. The kings of any particular server-hill gear out faster than the rest. It's like trickle down economics. The wealthy, in this case the people already good at that mode increase their wealth. The rest of us get to pick at the bones so to speak.
Now that in and of itself isn't entirely cruel. You know what you're getting into and what you have to do to increase your lot: become a king of a hill.
But here again is where the devs in their hubris erred. They MARKETED the game towards PvE folks knowing damn well they're vision of King of the Hill wasn't fully expressed as such to the playerbase. Everything in early end-game was and is still set up to fast-track the PvPer while halting the PvEr.
Even after the huge exodus and two laughable Elites Task Forces, after they sat their on their little podcast saying they 'heard' us, look at the facts...
They weighted the LZ and every other PvE mode heavily, and placed arbitrary time gates on PvE activity. 3 exotics prior to 1.8 in the LZ loot pool? What is that if not a disincentive to do content that they paid someone to code? Why is it there if the rewards are to be so utterly worthless than vendor trash or resource conversions?
Now that's not to say that every single drop in the DZ is great, they're not.
But here's what highlights their short sighted thinking the most: the simple fact is that ALL loot comes from two of three primary sources, drops, loot chests and caches.
So look at it for what it is plain and simple: all loot comes from an NPC dropwise. Meaning, you don't get rewarded with a piece of gear as a reward for killing another player. You get rewarded with someone else's effort. Now difficulty aside, that is the system. It doesn't matter if all 24 people in the DZ contributed to killing that mob or just one, in other words there is no premium placed on difficulty from a PvE perspective. Only now after two years have they granted a reward for assisting in clearing a landmark, but even those rewards aren't rewarding for a high % of us outside new or returning players.
So then even after all this, where the DZ has been the gearing-up-central for PvPers, at PvErs expense, when they say they've finally acknowledged our concerns, I'm still seeing that flawed thinking heads and above any other philosophy: the DZ should reward better. Why? Explain that Devs. Not players, I want a dev to explain how killing a Legendary boss solo or even in a group of four is somehow not commensurate difficulty with shooting some dude in the DZ and making an extraction? You know full well there can be instances of 4v1 where the victim has less chance of getting that item out than does an LZ boss dropping anything other than TeneCaduSkuls.
Or, let's then factor in whether or not that game mode is even appealing to the person you're 'encouraging' to go DZ. If it's not and they enjoy UG, why should their loot chances be less? Simply, why should the DZ acquisition rate be any higher than comparable modes for PvE? Can you explain that from an equity standpoint and tell us how that works?
That's not right the LZ bosses only drop Skull Gloves/Caduceus and Tenabrae's (iv'e done them 1000's of times and many more after 1.8 and they only drop 3 exotics that is their exotic loot pool )Originally Posted by MaDHatt3rMike Go to original post
Sorry but it is impossible for the LZ bosses to drop anything other than Skull Gloves/Caduceus and the tenabrae
So far in those 1000's of LZ boss drops i have had
45 Skull Gloves
25 Caduceus
15 or so Tenabrae
Only way to run gear runs is DZ. Just run 3x Pred with 1 healer and you will stomp any mediocre team into the ground unless they are running 2 FM healer and 2 Striker 9k stam.Originally Posted by MaDHatt3rMike Go to original post
They also drop Hildr, I'm 100% sure of that. While I have similar drop numbers to you on the items you mentioned....I have 1 Hildr drop as well.Originally Posted by Mrh-Anonymous Go to original post
Though I am skeptical that LZ bosses drop the new exotics....today.
It would not surprise me if they did during the GE. I ran them about 180 times during the last GE and saw nothing new myself though.
I dropped an Eir but that was from an HVT (even though i swore it was from an LZ boss but who knows.Originally Posted by Mad-Cap Go to original post
But i'm damn sure the new exotics don't drop from LZ bosses The devs would have stated so in either the SOTG or in a post for the GE event.
yeah, if the new exotics did drop I would hope that it would be common knowledge.Originally Posted by Mrh-Anonymous Go to original post
I thought I had a screen shot of the Hildr drop. but alas, not. I'm less than 100% sure now lol![]()
Apologies for putting doubt in your mind OOPS! but hey maybe the devs have done it so the new ones drop but without a warning or telling us just to troll us ha ha ha.Originally Posted by Mad-Cap Go to original post
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