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    Getting tired of this crap

    I am getting tired of a few things in this game:

    1. RNG- Screw that crap, how is it I can open 80+ superior caches in GE and not get a single new exotic(got devil & Heel off LZ bosses) Been farming UG and DZ and get the same old *** exotics, 3 Golden Rhinos in 2 days, yeah fix the damn RNG

    2. Weekly Missions- Can we remove the DZ part from that, Times it takes me all day to get those kills or all week to get those extractions because of dumb *** gankers and *****y players who shoot you in the back just cause you ran past them. If i have to go kill 40 Veterans or extract 30 items, I should only have to worry about the NPCs not some ******* group of 4 people who think they are GOD in the DZ. not there to screw with you, just do the missions. Yeah the DZ is over stacked, why all the landmarks, why not put landmarks in the LZ?

    3. Drop Rate- Yes the DZ has better drop rates-(which is ******** btw, oh I got a classified mask, turn around- ganked by rogues from out of no where) Those who say the UG has a good drop rate, come play my character on Xbox and you will see what I mean, I don't get **** for ****.

    4. Going Rogue- Someone else mentioned it, but when you go Rogue you should lose all Division assets, no safehouses, no checkpoints, no extractions, no manhunt consoles. you lose rogue status by dying- You disavowed the Division, why should you get help from that ****, and if your Rogue and you run into a safe house or checkpoint- you sir/ma'am are a piece of ****. oh and lets not forget about the rogue campers who sit outside safe houses and checkpoints and wait for you to come back out and kill you, or wait til you almost clear a landmark and take the last kill so you dont get credit for clearing the land mark and gank you for your crap. Just tired of the *******s in the DZ, and remove that damn chicken dance emote.

    5. Racism and trash talking in the DZ, if you have to resort to racism and vulgarilty in teh DZ then you need to reevaluate your life. Just because I run a 6 piece Nomad when I go into the DZ( because of gankers and cowards) does not make me a cheater, it means I want to survive and do what i need to do, not my fault if you cant kill me, or it takes too ling to kill me and gank my stuff. The ******** language that comes out of your mouth is ******** and uncalled for, Im trying to survive, so yes Ill drop a turret or throw grenades or run, TRYING to survive you *******, it aint cheating. And if by chance I kill you while your group of 4 is attacking me, is also not cheating, maybe you made a mistake and I got lucky, or maybe you are not as good as you think you are. (guarantee if this was a real firefight 8/10 I would win against you keyboard warriors)

    -rant over-
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    YodaMan 3D's Avatar Senior Member
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    I feel for ya, but the truth is all of that has been and continues to be complained about to this day. Ubi/Massive likes the DZ vision, though they have changed it considerable over 2 years and continue to do so for as long as players will keep playing it. It is their end game and they don't care what any of really think.

    RNG is not your friend. Pretty simple fact.
    Rogues are not your friend. Unless you went Rogue with them. Pretty simple.
    Until they come out with a PvE DZ, all of the other things you mentioned will continue to be as is.

    I suggest make friends, join a club, and farm in a group so you can play the game the way you want.

    Other then that ...........................
    A) accept the DZ for what it is.
    B) stay out and enjoy other parts of the game.
    C) my personal favorite, keep playing the game and getting on the forums and keep pointing out everything that is wrong with the game. CMs, and PvPers alike just can't get enough of that.
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    This unfortunately is The Division. It hasn't changed in almost two years which in my opinion means it is unlikely to change at all.

    RNG in this game sucks. I'm sorry but I still do not believe it is random. A quick look through the numbers generated at the recalibration table tell you it is not completely random. They claim a 3% drop rates on exotics. A friend of mine has had 9 Houses drop since 1.8 (2 for every character). I've not seen one. Wouldn't be bad except it is the current meta and if you don't have one it is pointless going in the DZ.

    The DZ is hated absolutely loathed by a massive majority. If Massive would open their eyes accept the truth and just give us a PvE DZ, thousands of players would flood back. Instead they refuse to accept the fact that 97% of the playerbase left because they hated the endgame (i.e. The DZ) and now try to keep the DZ active by forcing players into the DZ by way of weekly assignments. Don't do it, it is not worth it. The weekly cache doesn't give any Division Tech, the RNG as you have seen is crap and all you do by going into the DZ is bolster their stats about DZ population allowing them to argue it is an enjoyed part of the game. Boycott it like the rest of us and just let it die.

    Gankers have always been a part of the game and the DZ. Most are at best average ability on their own which is why they don't start shooting until their boyfriends show up. 1.8 brought us a load of unbalanced gearsets that led to groups running round the DZ stroking their epeen and shooting everyone in sight to demonstrate how good they are. Again, Massive make the drop rates better in the DZ to encourage people in their as cannon fodder for the PvP crowd. Just don't do it. The only thing Massive cares about is DZ population. Once it drops they will make changes. If you keep going in it won't change. I doubt a Community Manager will even respond to this thread because they do not care. If they do they will say that 1.8 added lots of new content where you can obtain top tier loot. You already figured out that's a load of bull.

    The game is biased towards rogues. Always has been, always will be. Players getting killed in the DZ is what they want to see the developers openly admitted that they themselves enjoyed ganking solo players whilst being in the security of a group of four. It's pathetic!

    The Division is a trash talkers paradise. They do less to combat racism and online bullying in this game than they do to prevent cheating which is saying something since their reputation for dealing with cheats is dismal at best and non existent at worst. Best advice, turn off proximity chat if you don't want your family subjected to constant shouts of "Sit the **** down ni****!" Again Massive seem proud of what they have created in the DZ. They seem to think this is representative of a real apocalypse and that everyone needs to toughen up to show their true metal. They forget that real men do and wannabes talk about wanting to.
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    RNG sucks in every game that it’s in. I get shafted in destiny 2 and the division alike.

    Rogues have a raw deal in 1.8, they literally have to go to a spot to get cleansed that’s camped by everybody in the dz lol. Sounds like sour grapes on that front. At least you know when they’re going rogue now. And go to another checkpoint or safehouse. Rogue camping will never stop, especially with the introduction of manhunt rewards.

    Heck me and a buddy go rogue to test our builds and some random pops up to come kill us. Happens every single time when we’re minding our business, someone comes to try to get a cache off of us. Is it our fault if we start being rogue dirtbags and continue killing him or her?

    You have a more than fighting chance with your nomad now, we’ll at least for now before that gets nerfed from complaints. Nomad + stick skills and you too can join in on being a rogue dirtbag.
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    Originally Posted by MaDHatt3rMike Go to original post
    I (got devil & Heel off LZ bosses)

    Sorry to cut your post down to the bare minimum OP and i understand alot of your frustrations with this game but i have to ask HOW? on what i have quoted

    Since when did the Devil and Heel drop from LZ bosses.
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    Originally Posted by nairda2k9 Go to original post
    This unfortunately is The Division. It hasn't changed in almost two years which in my opinion means it is unlikely to change at all.

    RNG in this game sucks. I'm sorry but I still do not believe it is random. A quick look through the numbers generated at the recalibration table tell you it is not completely random. They claim a 3% drop rates on exotics. A friend of mine has had 9 Houses drop since 1.8 (2 for every character). I've not seen one. Wouldn't be bad except it is the current meta and if you don't have one it is pointless going in the DZ.

    The DZ is hated absolutely loathed by a massive majority. If Massive would open their eyes accept the truth and just give us a PvE DZ, thousands of players would flood back. Instead they refuse to accept the fact that 97% of the playerbase left because they hated the endgame (i.e. The DZ) and now try to keep the DZ active by forcing players into the DZ by way of weekly assignments. Don't do it, it is not worth it. The weekly cache doesn't give any Division Tech, the RNG as you have seen is crap and all you do by going into the DZ is bolster their stats about DZ population allowing them to argue it is an enjoyed part of the game. Boycott it like the rest of us and just let it die.

    Gankers have always been a part of the game and the DZ. Most are at best average ability on their own which is why they don't start shooting until their boyfriends show up. 1.8 brought us a load of unbalanced gearsets that led to groups running round the DZ stroking their epeen and shooting everyone in sight to demonstrate how good they are. Again, Massive make the drop rates better in the DZ to encourage people in their as cannon fodder for the PvP crowd. Just don't do it. The only thing Massive cares about is DZ population. Once it drops they will make changes. If you keep going in it won't change. I doubt a Community Manager will even respond to this thread because they do not care. If they do they will say that 1.8 added lots of new content where you can obtain top tier loot. You already figured out that's a load of bull.

    The game is biased towards rogues. Always has been, always will be. Players getting killed in the DZ is what they want to see the developers openly admitted that they themselves enjoyed ganking solo players whilst being in the security of a group of four. It's pathetic!

    The Division is a trash talkers paradise. They do less to combat racism and online bullying in this game than they do to prevent cheating which is saying something since their reputation for dealing with cheats is dismal at best and non existent at worst. Best advice, turn off proximity chat if you don't want your family subjected to constant shouts of "Sit the **** down ni****!" Again Massive seem proud of what they have created in the DZ. They seem to think this is representative of a real apocalypse and that everyone needs to toughen up to show their true metal. They forget that real men do and wannabes talk about wanting to.
    It seems to me that some of us are the fodder to RNG just like PvErs are fodder to PvPers in the DZ.

    You hit the nail on the head with recal-station as an example. Had Skill Power rolled on a Classy backpack, decided to recalibrate it Stability. So this is/was a piece that has been optimized already, had a fully maxed 13,339 SP. Rolled... got 17% Stability, wanted the other half percent so that one weapon mod with 2.5% Stability would get me to 20%. So I roll, starting at around 120 million in credits. Rolled some 50 million credits which equated to something like 30-40 rolls, or more, and still dis not get 17.5% to 'roll', yet, during those rolls guess what did pop up? You guessed right if you said 13,339 skill power. Seriously. Go try to roll skill power on anything and see how often a max roll comes off, or Health. The spread is like 4 thousand skill power between lowest and highest. Meanwhile there's, 14%, 14.5%, 15%, 15.5%, 16%, 16.5%, 17%, 17.5%, 8 possible rolls for one stat and over a few thousand for another. Then to make it all even more FUN, they code it so when you actually do pick a major or minor to roll, each roll contains rolls of the other majors/minors that you don't want. It's almost as if it's deliberately the worst RNG system that could be devised.

    RNG is one thing, this is not RNG, it's more like a slot machine at a casino... trust me there's nothing random about them. It's more like they only allow true RNG periodically. Weighted RNG.

    What I would love to see is true transparency. Show the RNG code. Gives us redacted server logs with the totals for all mobs killed, all veterans killed, all elites killed and all bosses killed and their drops/locations throughout all game modes. I suspect you'd see a weighted RNG-fest.
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    I got them the first 3 days of the GE, me and my buddies were shocked too, since I hadnt opened any caches at that point, waited til I had close to 10k credits
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    rng is working as intended otherwise you wouldn't keep logging in to grind for what you don't have
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    Originally Posted by MaDHatt3rMike Go to original post
    I got them the first 3 days of the GE, me and my buddies were shocked too, since I hadnt opened any caches at that point, waited til I had close to 10k credits
    So you didn't actually get them from LZ bosses, you got them from GE cache's by killing LZ bosses to get the GE credits to be able to get GE cache's ????
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    no they dropped on the LZ bosses, I didnt open any caches at that point- was saving my credits
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