# Thread: Clue for 8/15 DLC | Forums

1. I think that one of the trains would arrive "before six".

If we assume the rider is between the cities and a train would reach him before it got to and "departed" the stations at the appointed times, the two trains would meet at 6, therefore one of trains would have to reach the rider before 6.

2. Originally Posted by NotRolo Go to original post
I think that one of the trains would arrive "before six".

If we assume the rider is between the cities and a train would reach him before it got to and "departed" the stations at the appointed times, the two trains would meet at 6, therefore one of trains would have to reach the rider before 6.
I really hope it's Muddy Waters and I did the math for nothing.

3. Originally Posted by NotRolo Go to original post
I really hope it's Muddy Waters and I did the math for nothing.
It is, it's been confirmed.

4. Originally Posted by NotRolo Go to original post
I really hope it's Muddy Waters and I did the math for nothing.
You did the math for nothing. RS222 based it on the lyrics:

Well, now, there's two, there's two trains running
Well, they ain't never, no, going my way
Well, now, one run at midnight and the other one,
Running just 'fore day,

The times in his puzzle are midnight and 6:00 AM. But there is no solution to the train puzzle, because they ain't never going your way.

This was one I really wanted to see how people approached, because to me, the puzzle isn't really the puzzle you're looking at at all. It was all about lateral thinking and how else to interpret the information. If given a structure, how closely with puzzle solvers adhere to that structure? For 12 pages or so that answer was "pretty darn close." When he came up with this I knew it would be a corker and I wanted to see how crazy he would make people. Perhaps he just gave you the blues.

5. His grandmother, Della Grant, raised him after his mother died shortly after his birth. Grant gave him the nickname "Muddy" at an early age because he loved to play in the muddy water of nearby Deer Creek.

from wikipedia

6. Hey, we got two DLC artists who were in this episode.