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    Originally Posted by SirServed29 Go to original post
    No, go get an LVOA-C. The damage fix for the G36 was one thing, but nerfing its stability in secret and not mentioning it was going too far.
    Honestly it's a LVOA-C I've wanted from the start anyway. Only reason I don't use the one I have now is it's a pre 1.3 182 and the damage output is just too for below the 204 SCAR I picked up.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    Just one other question for you.

    Is the G36 your best AR (equal or better handling and higher DPS), compared to all other ARs you have should they be modded the same and the Focused talent deactivated?
    I am wondering whether you guys can compare the weapons properly.
    When you combine rpm and bullet dmg, the G36 is still superior to any other AR.
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    Originally Posted by Force58 Go to original post
    Please tell the Ubisoft/Massive devs that we finally get a weapon that makes us feel good about playing the game, hell, I was even going to go back in the DZ to use it. I hadn't been in there since 1.3 dropped due to you guys buff'ing the AI, for reasons that still baffle me. Then you go and not only nerf the G36 base damage. I could live with that. But the day the patch came out and upon using the weapon I knew something was wrong. Then we hear you silently nerf'd the stability AND accuracy. FOR WHAT!!!?!??!?!?!?!?! Just un****ingbelieveable!!!! I'm 57 years old and I love this game to death AND SIMPLY WANT TO HAVE FUN, but there's been one too many bugs, issues, glitches, nerf's, for me to tolerate anymore. From the launch to black screen, map not working, having to delete/reinstall the game after every single damn patch/DLC, weapons not firing, weapon audio dropping, getting stuck in the environment, the severe lag, buff'ing of AI in the DZ, to this, screwing up my G36. You all should be ashamed.
    And yet you sound like all of the kids complaining on this forum. I don't know what your G36 was like before they did the nerf, but mine has not seen any problems with its stability or its accuracy. if anyone should be ashamed, it should be you just for acting like a child.

    And thank you for beta testing the underground for the PS players. It should be working a lot better by the time that we get it.
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    Crafted a GS204 LA86 (after 11 attempts) from the new BP rotation.Talents: Self preserved, destructive and capable. With an extra 22% damage to enemies out of cover, the LMG is on par with the nerfed G36 in terms of damage.
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    Originally Posted by N.erdbeer Go to original post
    I am wondering whether you guys can compare the weapons properly.
    When you combine rpm and bullet dmg, the G36 is still superior to any other AR.
    I've been wondering the same about all the guys that keep saying that. Are you actually taking the drop off from the Focused talent deactivating into account?

    Best G36 I have with best mods 202,000 DPS
    Or when Focused is deactivated 174,000 DPS
    Best SCAR, same mods 204,000 DPS Always.
    My other ARs range from 185,000 to 202,000.

    Which again is why I say the Focused talent isn't doing what it should and providing BONUS damage.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    I've been wondering the same about all the guys that keep saying that. Are you actually taking the drop off from the Focused talent deactivating into account?

    Best G36 I have with best mods 202,000 DPS
    Or when Focused is deactivated 174,000 DPS
    Best SCAR, same mods 204,000 DPS Always.
    My other ARs range from 185,000 to 202,000.

    Which again is why I say the Focused talent isn't doing what it should and providing BONUS damage.
    Mine is still over 200k even when focused is deactivated and mine is a 204. I also have brutal and deadly on it and being geared for pulses I can do even more damage with focused deactivated. So I use it when I have to, other wise I stay close to the tactician in the group. Even with focused deactivated, my pulse and his smart cover, I can crack 300k. For people to say that it's not a viable weapon anymore, they are drama queens. You can even roll out focused if you have two other really good talents on it, and still have a powerful, stable, accurate assault rifle with the highest base damage in the game. What's wrong with that?
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    Originally Posted by thearchaic1 Go to original post
    Mine is still over 200k even when focused is deactivated and mine is a 204. I also have brutal and deadly on it and being geared for pulses I can do even more damage with focused deactivated. So I use it when I have to, other wise I stay close to the tactician in the group. Even with focused deactivated, my pulse and his smart cover, I can crack 300k. For people to say that it's not a viable weapon anymore, they are drama queens. You can even roll out focused if you have two other really good talents on it, and still have a powerful, stable, accurate assault rifle with the highest base damage in the game. What's wrong with that?
    PPl are drama queens and whiners because they had for a short time, a broken weapon with huge dps, no spread and no recoil. Finally their lack of skill ( in terms of controlling fire, shooting in bursts, aiming properly ) was compensated by a broken weapon. As soon as Massive fixed it, the whiners went back to their average shooting skills and the drama started.

    It is still a good AR, but I always preferred SCAR - L, because is more stable and easy to control. On SCAR I have almost 40% crit chance because I don't have to use accuracy/stability mods exclusively, the weapon itself is accurate and stable enough if you know how to control fire.

    With SCAR + smart cover I reach 305k DPS which I think is fair considering I'm a reclaimer support with 38k SP and no tactician pieces. With the ond broken G 36 I could have reached like at least 400k DPS, in smart cover, which for a support class was OP as hell.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    I've been wondering the same about all the guys that keep saying that. Are you actually taking the drop off from the Focused talent deactivating into account?

    Best G36 I have with best mods 202,000 DPS
    Or when Focused is deactivated 174,000 DPS
    Best SCAR, same mods 204,000 DPS Always.
    My other ARs range from 185,000 to 202,000.

    Which again is why I say the Focused talent isn't doing what it should and providing BONUS damage.
    Your dps numbers doesn't mean anything as they take weapon talents into account.
    To compare weapons you have to look at bullet damage, rpm and stability/accuracy.

    @the guy who complains about buffed AI:
    They did not buff them at all. They added new brackets and new AI levels but the old AI still exist in the 200-231 bracket. When the AI is too tough for you soloing dz, reduce your gs and play there.
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    Originally Posted by N.erdbeer Go to original post
    Your dps numbers doesn't mean anything as they take weapon talents into account.
    To compare weapons you have to look at bullet damage, rpm and stability/accuracy.

    @the guy who complains about buffed AI:
    They did not buff them at all. They added new brackets and new AI levels but the old AI still exist in the 200-231 bracket. When the AI is too tough for you soloing dz, reduce your gs and play there.
    I have looked at damage per bullet, and the G36s I have are down without the extra damage granted by Focused.
    And DPS is an indicator. If the DPS on my SCAR was higher but I couldn't put shots on target I'd say so. My SCAR and my best 36 both have Destructive, both do 20% armour damage. My 36 has extra damage at range, my SCAR extra damage close up. Third talent on my SCAR is sustained. So the only talent inflating effective DPS is Focused.

    My point is still that the way Focused works is pointless since the nerf. It provides a damage penalty for using skills, rather than a bonus for not.

    And too those smart people that suggest rolling it off the weapon, I suggest you think that through.
    If my DPS is 202,000 with Focused and 174,000 without it, removing it will mean my DPS is always 174,000!
    Removing it altogether solves nothing!
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    Originally Posted by N.erdbeer Go to original post
    When someone struggles to find an upgrade for a gs163 item, then they aren't trying hard enough. Any lvl32+ npc can drop better items.
    Except that they don't. Sure, maybe my 163 has a really good roll and really good talents. But frankly I agree with part of your statement... it shouldn't be this hard to find something that's an upgrade over a 163.
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