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Hunde_3.JG51
02-29-2004, 08:03 PM
Because when I see a dot off in the distance I say to myself "is that a P-51, P-47, P-39, P-40, Yak, Lavochkin, Lagg, Mig, Hurricane, Buffalo, Il-2, I-16, I-153.....and with expansion....Spitfire, P-38, or P-63 (and probably others I forgot)?" Not to mention all of the bombers.

When I fly red I say, "is that a 109, 190, Stuka, or He-111?"

This does make it a little harder to fly blue because you have to adapt to more types of planes, whereas with red it is generally a 109 or 190. I would get bored real fast flying red for any length of time. After inclusion of planes like Macchi's, 110's, and some others things may get more interesting. A desert map with Med type planeset would offer a great variety of planes for both sides after more planes are incorporated into FB. Just thinking out loud.

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Hunde_3.JG51
02-29-2004, 08:03 PM
Because when I see a dot off in the distance I say to myself "is that a P-51, P-47, P-39, P-40, Yak, Lavochkin, Lagg, Mig, Hurricane, Buffalo, Il-2, I-16, I-153.....and with expansion....Spitfire, P-38, or P-63 (and probably others I forgot)?" Not to mention all of the bombers.

When I fly red I say, "is that a 109, 190, Stuka, or He-111?"

This does make it a little harder to fly blue because you have to adapt to more types of planes, whereas with red it is generally a 109 or 190. I would get bored real fast flying red for any length of time. After inclusion of planes like Macchi's, 110's, and some others things may get more interesting. A desert map with Med type planeset would offer a great variety of planes for both sides after more planes are incorporated into FB. Just thinking out loud.

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ElfunkoI
02-29-2004, 08:09 PM
How about flying red and a La7? LOL.

"Is it a...nevermind, I'll just outturn, outrun, outclimb, and outgun it."

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FI-Aflak
02-29-2004, 08:13 PM
I'll agree with you to a point, but then flying red you get more surprises. You have to say "is that a 109F-4 that is a great turnfighter, or is it a 109K4 that climbs and turns like an Apollo rocket? is that an A9 or a less deadly F-seriea 190? Does that 190 pack mark 108's? is that a deadly G-2 or a less frightening F-2?


You get just as much variety in enemy when you fly red, its just that you can't tell them apart easily. I can say "hey, its a K-4" when it climbs vertically for 5000m and I can say "dear god, its a late anton!" when I see it fire 2x30mm, 2x20mm and 2x7.62mm guns all at once.

That said, you also have the japanese planes to contend with.

BuzzU
02-29-2004, 08:50 PM
What a weak excuse for flying German. Just fly the P-51, and be done with it. It's not complicated at all.

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Zen--
02-29-2004, 08:58 PM
It's pretty simple for me, they have Focke Wulfe's

-Zen-

Zen--
02-29-2004, 09:01 PM
But without a doubt, I'll be flying the heck out of the P38, which ranks #3 of my all time favorite planes.

(I must say I have a thing for long tapered wings like that)

-Zen-

faustnik
02-29-2004, 09:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zen--:
It's pretty simple for me, they have Focke Wulfe's

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WUAF_Badsight
02-29-2004, 09:21 PM
i respect anyone who flys the P-51 online in a coop or DF room

they are at virtually every other 43 & 44 planes mercy out there

ElAurens
02-29-2004, 09:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
i respect anyone who flys the P-51 online in a coop or DF room

they are at virtually every other 43 & 44 planes mercy out there<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately I must agree with you. Given the choice I'll take a P40 over a P51 any time it is offered. At least with the P40 I have some chance of maneuvering, the only thing a P51 can do is dive well, and on most servers the bases are so close you never get the chance to get any altitude. The P51 feels like a fly stuck in molasses.

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BS87
02-29-2004, 10:18 PM
I must disagree. If you use it wisely and engery fight, and pick your battles, the P-51 is a marvelous aircraft. I only fly the 51 or a Dora (and the upcoming P38)

FW190fan
02-29-2004, 10:19 PM
I fly LW/blue because their planes rank so high on the coolness scale.

It's a shame it's considered unsporting to fly the Me262.

I say screw it. Let's fly the 262 and blow their red a$$es to kingdom come.

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BuzzU
02-29-2004, 10:23 PM
I have my hopes in the P-38 and P-63. Anything that starts with a P is good with me.

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BS87
02-29-2004, 10:24 PM
Yeah, i'm going to have restless sleep trying to figure out what to fly more: the Pony, or the Twin tail devil.

VW-IceFire
02-29-2004, 10:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ElAurens:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
i respect anyone who flys the P-51 online in a coop or DF room

they are at virtually every other 43 & 44 planes mercy out there<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately I must agree with you. Given the choice I'll take a P40 over a P51 _any_ time it is offered. At least with the P40 I have some chance of maneuvering, the only thing a P51 can do is dive well, and on most servers the bases are so close you never get the chance to get any altitude. The P51 feels like a fly stuck in molasses.

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If you're flying on Slammin or AFJ then yes this is a problem for the pony. Get something like 3000 meters or more (preferably above your opponent) then you have an excellent aircraft with excellent high speed manuverability.

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necrobaron
02-29-2004, 10:40 PM
I'm really looking forward to the P-38. I've heard from someone "in the know" that the AEP Lightning handles superbly but is capable of a rather nasty stall. In any case,I get giddy just thinking about it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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ASH at S-MART
02-29-2004, 11:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunde_3.JG51:
This does make it a little harder to fly blue because you have to adapt to more types of planes, whereas with red it is generally a 109 or 190.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Emmmmm Naaaaaaaahhh.. In that there are more 109 variants then the law allows! And the E,F,G, and K all fly very differently from each other.. But *look* very simular... So, it is actually harder to fly for the RED in that you not only have to determine if it is a 190 or 109 (easy) but what variant of the 109 (not easy).. Which until you do you dont know if your in for a TnB (109F) fight or a BnZ (109K) fight.

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Hristo_
02-29-2004, 11:28 PM
If this were a Star Wars sim, I'd be flying TIE fighters exclusively. With this being a WW2 sim, I fly Luftwaffe.

Both Empire and Luftwaffe are way cooler than any Rebel or Allied ride.

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karost
02-29-2004, 11:40 PM
when I was boy and read a book "from the first and the last" that time I like LW.
then keep read anything about WWII air cambat & tactic from many country to find the reason , why LW pilot made so many kill score ? ( which now we all know why )

after WWII end, many top ace from LW was send to USA ( don't know why I did not find the book to read in details ) but I think that should be tactical knowledge transfer or some thing like that... or may be I wrong http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

so I like LW coz I like tactic , skill and experience from LW pilot ....

109 is match my choice ,I will try 190 deep when I got AEP... to fly 190 for survive is harder then 109 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think.

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02-29-2004, 11:49 PM
Interesting post Kyrule2...hmmmm..

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Hunde_3.JG51
03-01-2004, 12:20 AM
Actually I was just kidding. I'm stuck here doing progress notes for work and just wanted to make a point/post and see what came back. I like how people focused on the "it makes it harder to fly blue" comment and took it seriously http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

I can't believe people are saying the P-51 isn't very good! Play on full switch servers and the P-51 is very good. The P-40, Yaks, and others don't even compare IMHO. The Mustang is also better suited to the veteran pilot, much like the 190.

I'm looking forward to the P-38 as well, interesting plane with great load-outs.


And to be clear:

I fly LW/Blue because of the FW-190....and the Me-262.

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Fehler
03-01-2004, 01:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
Anything that starts with a P is good with me.

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Poop starts with the letter "P". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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BuzzU
03-01-2004, 01:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
Anything that starts with a P is good with me.

Buzz
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Poop starts with the letter "P". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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So does pawned.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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karost
03-01-2004, 02:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Originally posted by Hunde_3.JG51 :

I can't believe people are saying the P-51 isn't very good! Play on full switch servers and the P-51 is very good. The P-40, Yaks, and others don't even compare IMHO. The Mustang is also better suited to the veteran pilot, much like the 190.
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Hi, Kyrule2

I believe people saying that... if they play P-51 in EAW... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I think P51 in EAW 1.2 is more harder then fly in FB about enery response ..... or may be I wrong....

for FB online enjoyment ..

when I fly p51 or La7 I like to enjoy my Coke and popcorn near my left hand ... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
when I fly 109 or 190 , I need cigaret and tray ( some time )
but I need two hand when I fly I-16 or P-39 ( version sturmovik ) ...... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


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Stalker58
03-01-2004, 02:18 AM
P51 not good? When I fly in my Me109 on servers without P51, I'm looking only downward for my prey.But if there is P51 on a FR server me feeling little nervous, having strong needs to check my six more then often http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!

Cajun76
03-01-2004, 04:34 AM
I like flying Red Dora, and Blue P-47. Some servers switch it up sometimes.

It's hilarious seeing people join and seeing the chat bar "WTF?" change colors....

Good hunting,
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Usberet
03-01-2004, 04:38 AM
I'm definitly looking forward to the P-63 since I fly the P-39Q-10 the most. The p38 will also be a welcome addition and i'll add the spitfire to my lineup as well ;-D

p1ngu666
03-01-2004, 07:24 AM
p51 is a good plane
ive racked up 600points in one in a coop, only air to air. still had ammo
cant be the pilot, mustbe the plane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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robban75
03-01-2004, 07:41 AM
Red or blue, doesn't matter, as long as the Fw 190 is avaliable! I just love this plane!

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TgD Thunderbolt56
03-01-2004, 07:47 AM
I'm really looking forward the the P-63 as well...but I fly Luftwaffe (blue) when the numbers dictate it.



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bodaw
03-01-2004, 08:17 AM
I fly Blue mostly because whenever I join a dogfight server, Blue is always outnumbered. Everybody goes for the Yaks, Las, P39s and P51s.

Cardinal25
03-01-2004, 09:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
I have my hopes in the P-38 and P-63. Anything that starts with a P is good with me.

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I agree.

I do fly in a German squad though.

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Cardinal25
03-01-2004, 09:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bodaw:
I fly Blue mostly because whenever I join a dogfight server, Blue is always outnumbered. Everybody goes for the Yaks, Las, P39s and P51s.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Three Army maps are the best. This allows me to hunt Yak/LA's in a P-39 or P-51.

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NorrisMcWhirter
03-01-2004, 09:47 AM
Hi,

I prefer to fly blue because I think it is more difficult what with the poor turn capability and the restricted views.

Going back to the thrust of the first few comments, I think the P51 and the 190 require a similar outlook - you have to use your loaf and plan far ahead rather than just jerking the stick around to get the desired effect. However, I'd choose the 190 every time because it's robust and the firepower is phenomenal.

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Xnomad
03-01-2004, 11:44 AM
WTF? If once in a while I'm not flying in a 109 and I get into a P 51 I shoot down planes left right and centre no contest and I'm just an average player, but this is historical limited server, so I'm facing K-4s Doras, G-14s and A-9s and no fancy F-4s.

Plus on historical settings you are hardly going to wonder is that a 109 F or a 109 G-14 are you?

As close to full difficulty is really where planes should be judged and not historically inaccurate servers and arcade servers with cockpit off etc. It's got to be close to full real anyway for you to have to recognise a plane by it's shape. So saying the P-51 isn't a good plane isn't right, and yes you will only be wondering is that a 109 or a 190 and not E through K.

When I fly red I don't think about it anyway I shoot at it no matter what. I think they asked Guenther Rall once what was the best way to deal with a Mustang (?) and he said "Shoot it down"

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Bearcat99
03-01-2004, 02:09 PM
When I do fly blue it is ether because:
1. To even the players
2. I was asked to
3. I just want to fly a German plane.


After all...these FMs are so good.... The mes & FWs are very challenging but fun to fly.

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Steaky_361st
03-01-2004, 03:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
What a weak excuse for flying German. Just fly the P-51, and be done with it. It's not complicated at all.

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JG7_Rall
03-01-2004, 04:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hristo_:
If this were a Star Wars sim, I'd be flying TIE fighters exclusively. With this being a WW2 sim, I fly Luftwaffe.

Both Empire and Luftwaffe are way cooler than any Rebel or Allied ride.

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So true! They're just so much more...badass!

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