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hughlb2
07-26-2004, 11:54 AM
I have just started Extreme-One's BoB campaign and am loving the first three missions. I like it so much that i'm cosidering making a RAF training campaign. I have two questions - Firstly, has someone already made a comprehensive training campaign? (No point making one if its already been donehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) Secondly, are there any good and detailed sources on RAF training in WW2 (eg. sorts of training missions, aircraft used and in what order etc.)

I would also (if I have the time) like to make a printable handbook to go with the campaign, with a section on each mission giving the pilot a step-by-step guide on what to do and mission information (eg. takeoff procedure, directional headings, gauges and what they're for etc.)

This is a list of possible missions for the campaign -

Mission 1) Gladiator - 0% fuel and 0% ammo. This mission would be "grounded" and allow the pilot to become accustomed to the aircraft cockpit - the dials and the flight controls. The pilot could also, using the F2 key, "walk" around the aircraft and see how the radiator flaps work, the ailerons etc. A voiceover would be perfect for this mission but I figure a manual would be the next best thing.

Mission 2) Gladiator - Start the engine and take off for the first time (and land ofcourse!http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif) The pilot would basically perform a simple circuit.

Mission 3) Gladiator - Basic navigation, (this would best be done with no icons on the map for realism). Simply, an extended mission 2, the airfield would remain close by, but the pilot would fly to maybe two or three landmarks to get a basic understanding of navigation.

Mission 4) Gladiator - Advanced manouveres. tight turning and perhaps loops but nothing too advanced.

Mission 5) Gladiator - Free flight. A mission to allow the pilot to practice what they have learned and clock some more hourshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Mission 6) Spitfire Vb 1941 - 0% fuel and 0% ammo. Same as mission 1 but with new aircrafthttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Mission 7) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Same as mission 2, so the pilot can experience the different handling qualities of the aircraft.

Mission 8) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Advanced Navigation - same as mission 3 but the flight will be longer and a bit harder, perhaps up the coast on the Normandy map.

Mission 9) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Advanced Manouveres - Same as mission 4 but with more difficult manouveres eg. Split S, High speed dive etc.

Mission 10) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Formation flying. Take off and join a group of 1-3 Spitfires and try and stay in formation.

Mission 11) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Gunnery (FINALLY!) I like Extreme_One's glider target missionhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mission 12) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Free Flight - Practice everything... except gunnery!

I don't know how the real RAF training program worked, but this seems to cover most aspects of flying in FB, yes i'm sure of forgotten some!

I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but maybe i'll pick this up oneday, if somebody else wants to make it go for it. Please try to do a RAF campaign though, so I get to re-learn how to fly the Spithttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I feel this sort of campaign could be fun for both first time flyers and Ace's alike. I'm no Ace, but i've been flying sims since the early 90's and I had a great time training in Extreme One's campaign.

What do people think of a training campaign?

hughlb2
07-26-2004, 11:54 AM
I have just started Extreme-One's BoB campaign and am loving the first three missions. I like it so much that i'm cosidering making a RAF training campaign. I have two questions - Firstly, has someone already made a comprehensive training campaign? (No point making one if its already been donehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) Secondly, are there any good and detailed sources on RAF training in WW2 (eg. sorts of training missions, aircraft used and in what order etc.)

I would also (if I have the time) like to make a printable handbook to go with the campaign, with a section on each mission giving the pilot a step-by-step guide on what to do and mission information (eg. takeoff procedure, directional headings, gauges and what they're for etc.)

This is a list of possible missions for the campaign -

Mission 1) Gladiator - 0% fuel and 0% ammo. This mission would be "grounded" and allow the pilot to become accustomed to the aircraft cockpit - the dials and the flight controls. The pilot could also, using the F2 key, "walk" around the aircraft and see how the radiator flaps work, the ailerons etc. A voiceover would be perfect for this mission but I figure a manual would be the next best thing.

Mission 2) Gladiator - Start the engine and take off for the first time (and land ofcourse!http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif) The pilot would basically perform a simple circuit.

Mission 3) Gladiator - Basic navigation, (this would best be done with no icons on the map for realism). Simply, an extended mission 2, the airfield would remain close by, but the pilot would fly to maybe two or three landmarks to get a basic understanding of navigation.

Mission 4) Gladiator - Advanced manouveres. tight turning and perhaps loops but nothing too advanced.

Mission 5) Gladiator - Free flight. A mission to allow the pilot to practice what they have learned and clock some more hourshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Mission 6) Spitfire Vb 1941 - 0% fuel and 0% ammo. Same as mission 1 but with new aircrafthttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Mission 7) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Same as mission 2, so the pilot can experience the different handling qualities of the aircraft.

Mission 8) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Advanced Navigation - same as mission 3 but the flight will be longer and a bit harder, perhaps up the coast on the Normandy map.

Mission 9) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Advanced Manouveres - Same as mission 4 but with more difficult manouveres eg. Split S, High speed dive etc.

Mission 10) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Formation flying. Take off and join a group of 1-3 Spitfires and try and stay in formation.

Mission 11) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Gunnery (FINALLY!) I like Extreme_One's glider target missionhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mission 12) Spitfire Vb 1941 - Free Flight - Practice everything... except gunnery!

I don't know how the real RAF training program worked, but this seems to cover most aspects of flying in FB, yes i'm sure of forgotten some!

I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but maybe i'll pick this up oneday, if somebody else wants to make it go for it. Please try to do a RAF campaign though, so I get to re-learn how to fly the Spithttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I feel this sort of campaign could be fun for both first time flyers and Ace's alike. I'm no Ace, but i've been flying sims since the early 90's and I had a great time training in Extreme One's campaign.

What do people think of a training campaign?

Breeze147
07-26-2004, 12:19 PM
Woo-Hoo!!! That would be great!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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p1ngu666
07-26-2004, 12:20 PM
hmm, u can do videos u know, well, ingame tracks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cant remmber if i made any training missions, if i have u can use em

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Capt._Tenneal
07-26-2004, 12:47 PM
Sounds great ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You can also start planning the RN version of your training campaign : carrier takeoffs and landings, navigation over open ocean, torpedo launching, etc.

hughlb2
07-26-2004, 01:06 PM
"hmm, u can do videos u know, well, ingame tracks

cant remmber if i made any training missions, if i have u can use em" - P1ngu666

tracks, yeah I didn't think of that. Cheers man, I appreciate your offer with the training missions toohttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

But i'm still wondering if I should do this campaign. I have average knowledge of mission making and no idea on how to make a campaign, let alone post it. Also my system is now refered to as "low-end", damn!, it was top of the line three years ago. So this may mean my missions would be a little "lite" with objects etc. So I'm still not to sure about all this.

"You can also start planning the RN version of your training campaign : carrier takeoffs and landings, navigation over open ocean, torpedo launching, etc." - Capt._Tenneal

True, good thinking. Although, i'm really no expert on navy missions like torpedo launching, I would probably tell the pilot to perform a "text book" torpedo launch by divebombinghttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[This message was edited by hughlb2 on Mon July 26 2004 at 12:20 PM.]