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Old_Canuck
02-11-2004, 01:49 PM
When I signed up as a member of the Canadian Museum of Flight today, I didn't expect to come across the trail of a WWII German ace. After the paperwork was finished, I was directed to a wonderful dark area in the back of the museum full of books and manuals. Pulling "Hampden Squadrons in Focus" off the shelf, I noticed an invoice that was left in the book and the name at the top was "Franz Stigler." The lady at the check out desk whipped it out of the book and said "oh, he'll need this .... he's a member here too."

http://www.vancourier.com/112102/photos/top1anchor.jpg

There's a gathering planned for members at the museum this summer and I'm hoping to meet Mr. Stigler as he is expected to attend. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

[This message was edited by Old_Canuck on Wed February 11 2004 at 01:25 PM.]

Old_Canuck
02-11-2004, 01:49 PM
When I signed up as a member of the Canadian Museum of Flight today, I didn't expect to come across the trail of a WWII German ace. After the paperwork was finished, I was directed to a wonderful dark area in the back of the museum full of books and manuals. Pulling "Hampden Squadrons in Focus" off the shelf, I noticed an invoice that was left in the book and the name at the top was "Franz Stigler." The lady at the check out desk whipped it out of the book and said "oh, he'll need this .... he's a member here too."

http://www.vancourier.com/112102/photos/top1anchor.jpg

There's a gathering planned for members at the museum this summer and I'm hoping to meet Mr. Stigler as he is expected to attend. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

[This message was edited by Old_Canuck on Wed February 11 2004 at 01:25 PM.]

cuski
02-11-2004, 01:55 PM
I take it you're in Vancouver too, eh? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There is someone else from Vancouver on this board who actually has met him personally, but for the life of me, I can't remember the username.

All I do remember is that his health is not that great lately, and he hasn't been to many events of this kind, mainly because of that.

Old_Canuck
02-11-2004, 02:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cuski:
I take it you're in Vancouver too, eh? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

.... All I do remember is that his health is not that great lately, and he hasn't been to many events of this kind, mainly because of that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

From Langley. Sorry to hear about Mr. Stigler's failing health.

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

Old_Canuck
02-11-2004, 02:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cuski:
I take it you're in Vancouver too, eh? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

.... All I do remember is that his health is not that great lately, and he hasn't been to many events of this kind, mainly because of that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

From Langley. Sorry to hear about Mr. Stigler's failing health.

Here's a good story about him for those who are interested:

http://www.vancourier.com/112102/news/112102nn1.html

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

p1ngu666
02-11-2004, 02:36 PM
hope u get to meet himhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.pingu666.etglobalsolution.co.uk/sig/mysig3.jpg

cuski
02-11-2004, 03:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Here's a good story about him for those who are interested:

http://www.vancourier.com/112102/news/112102nn1.html

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I actually missed that one, thanks a lot! I do remember there's been a bit of controversy around him as one of our local newspapers chose to publish a story about him on Remembrance Day.

XyZspineZyX
02-11-2004, 03:28 PM
I've had the pleasure of meeting Franz a couple of years ago at a Warbirds convention. He's full of great stories, both during and after the war.

He calls me, "Junior", hehehe. I remember when I first contacted him about speaking at the convention, and explaining Warbirds to him...I had to stop the explanation for a second and ask his permission to keep using his name as my handle!

faustnik
02-11-2004, 03:54 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stiglr:

He calls me, "Junior", hehehe. QUOTE]

Uhoh, I think we found a new handle for you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Good going on actually meeting the man Junior.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mdegnan/_images/FaustSig
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XyZspineZyX
02-11-2004, 04:31 PM
It was very strange at the time.

I chose the name because Warbirds went from 4-character handles to 6, and my old one wouldn't "expand well". So, it was time to just choose another.

I wanted a good, historical name, and when I came across the famous story of Stigler and Charles Brown's B-17, I knew I had a good one (that story just really appeals to my sense of "fair play" and gallantry)! But I had no idea if Franz was still alive, and only later (when the Warbirds convention team asked me to try and find him) did I find out he was living in British Columbia. So, when I made that phone call that day, I had a few butterflies in the stomach.

Well, Franz liked the idea of coming to the con, and he called Charles Brown, the B-17 pilot and got him to commit to the con too!

Needless to say, their presentation was one of THE highlights of a very memorable convention!! The late Gabby Gabreski was there, as was a pilot from the 100th Bomb Group. At a round table, as the questions came from the audience, the four old warriors came to realize there was a day when all four of them were in the air fighting with (or against) each other on the same raid (IIRC, it was either Schweinfurt or Regensburg)!!!

Kampfmeister
02-11-2004, 07:54 PM
Cool story Stiglr http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif You're lucky. It's not everyday one gets to meet men like Stigler, Brown, or Gabreski. Consider yourself fortunate. Old Canuck, I hope you get the chance to meet the man before it is too late.

Last summer at the local German festival in Milwaukee, my brother met an old German vet working the beer stand. He had noticed my brother's T-shirt that I had given to him for a present. It was a JG54 shirt with a picture of a 190 on it. I know, not exactly politically correct. Anyway they started up a conversation, and it turns out he was a mechanic (Blackman) in JG52 and knew Hartmann http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif He said he had some photos of him at home. Unfortunately I never got to meet him myself, and my brother never got his name and address. I'm hoping to meet him this year at the festival if he is still around. I'd like to see his photos.