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Gbucket
07-30-2004, 09:42 AM
This week's development update has been added to the site.


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<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-43-Ia_05_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-61_Kai_Ko_03_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>

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This week we're showing the Aichi D3A1 "Val" Cockpit, Kawasaki Ki-43 Ia, and more!

The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)

[This message was edited by UbiRazz on Fri July 30 2004 at 08:58 AM.]

Gbucket
07-30-2004, 09:42 AM
This week's development update has been added to the site.


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<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/D3A1-cockp1_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-43-Ia_05_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/300704/Ki-61_Kai_Ko_03_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>

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This week we're showing the Aichi D3A1 "Val" Cockpit, Kawasaki Ki-43 Ia, and more!

The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)

[This message was edited by UbiRazz on Fri July 30 2004 at 08:58 AM.]

Rhavin_
07-30-2004, 09:49 AM
Just got in from a long night at a party, thought I'd check up on the forum's and what do I find?

Dev update! Brings a tear to my dry smoke-filled eyes it does.

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Capt._Tenneal
07-30-2004, 09:54 AM
Huh ? Where are the lifeboats this week ? I don't see any.

The Ki-61 is looking good, though. And pit shots are always welcome. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Gbucket
07-30-2004, 09:58 AM
Sorry, lifeboats were last week - my mistake http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GerritJ9
07-30-2004, 10:27 AM
Great shots, but the Ki43 is a Nakajima product- Kawasaki had nothing to do with it!

Capt._Tenneal
07-30-2004, 10:51 AM
UbiRazz, is there going to be an update on the FB site about the box art released by UBI ? I notice there was more information on their PF page including system specs. Thanks.

aminx
07-30-2004, 12:37 PM
yes, the ki43 hayabusa was a nakajima army bird
equivalent of the zero.i presume they will throw in some more polly into that canopy.
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg

Flying_Merkava
07-30-2004, 12:44 PM
posted 30-07-04 11:41
Kawanishi made the infamous Goerge but I don't know what planes Kawasaki made (don't see'em listed on . Yes you're right it's a Nakajima Ki-61 "tony." I think the tony was influenced by the Italian fighters (mc 202) cause it looks like it, and the bf's cause it was made for power and speed not menuverability...as far as they say.

P.S I jsut visited http://www.acepilots.com/planes/specs.html to make sure and searched for the word "Kawasaki" I found it under the Engine column of the Ki 61 tony, the engine is a Kawasaki. So technically a small mistook by ubi or whoever.

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sugaki
07-30-2004, 03:50 PM
There seems to be some confusion here.

The Ki-43 Hayabusa was Nakajima.

The Ki-61 Hien was Kawasaki.

Other planes made by Kawasaki include the Toryu, Goshikisen, Ki-64, Ki-66, Ki-91, Ki-96, Ki-102, Ki-108, Type 99 Light Bomber.

Kawanishi made IJN planes, Kawasaki made IJAAF planes.

-Aki

71RAF_Deacon
07-30-2004, 04:20 PM
Is that Tony Flyable-(Licking my chops)

What in the world is that thing...?

Freycinet
07-30-2004, 05:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by aminx:
i presume they will throw in some more polly into that canopy.
aminx
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what?? - That 'pit looks just great!

I love the look of that periscope sight, though i'm sure it will be damn' difficult to shoot with.

Marvellous looking planes too. The radial engined one looks like a real tight turner, almost like a modern day aerobatics plane...

Freycinet
07-30-2004, 05:27 PM
if you mean the canopy on the plane model, that's how it looked in RL I believe...

Snootles
07-30-2004, 08:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The radial engined one looks like a real tight turner, almost like a modern day aerobatics plane... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, the Hayabusa was very manueverable. Its advantage was nullified only when the U.S. captured one and used it to test effective counter tactics.

I love the way all the Nakajima ground-based fighters look like they have forward-swept wings, when seen from the right angle.

theta_ops
07-30-2004, 10:13 PM
I noticed a problem with the Akiziki destroyer picture. On the side of the ship, it appears to say Akijiki, the way that the 2nd character on from the left is drawn.

It should look more like this (http://www.combinedfleet.com/akizuk01.jpg).

The current Destroyer:
http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/230704/Akizuki.jpg

What it should say:
http://www.combinedfleet.com/akizuk01.jpg

I do like the model though. I thought it would be a good idea to point out what looked very confusing in the way it's name was written.

Gbucket
08-02-2004, 02:36 AM
It does actually say Akizuki (look very closely at the second character from the left, just above it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) but, from what I understand:

"The Japanses write ship names in Katakana. This system is indeed used to write foreign words but this practice did not begin until after WWII. The use of katakana to transcribe foreign words did not become standard until after WWII. Prior to that, foreign words and concepts were transcribed in Kanji (either phonetic equivalents or by the creation of new characters or combinations)."

And the Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar) is built by Nakajima not Kawasaki, sorry for any confusion.

himatsubushi
08-02-2004, 07:22 AM
theta_ops is correct to point out a wrong character on the side of the Akizuki, however, it is actually the third character that is wrong. It reads A-ki-ji-ki and not A-ki-zu-ki to the Japanese eyes. Those two Katakana charcters do resemble a lot and may appear the same to foreigners but they are different. I recommend that it be fixed properly.

zoomar2
08-03-2004, 11:22 AM
A few comments.

Great to see the Kawasaki Ki61 and Nakajima K-43. With the Ki-44 and Shiden the basic "modern" Japanese fighter set will be complete. Is it too much to hope any of these will be flyable or that slightly older types like the Ki-27 and A5M be around. I am getting a sinking feeling that our only flyable Japanese planes will be various Zero and Ki-84 variants and the Aichi Val, especially if we are still expecting a release date in before January. Without the Nakajima B5N Kate it won't be all that fun being Japanese in this game.

The Akizuki looks great, if misspelled, but it seems an odd choice for the Japanese DD. Unless I'm wrong, few were built and they saw service only near the end of the war (Akagi and Akizuki in the same scenario would be impossible)

I am still extremely excited about this game, which will certainly be the best Pacific Airwar simulation, ever, but I think the effort put into HMS Illustious and all those Seafires would have been better spent fleshing out the Japanese ship and plane set.

Tater-SW-
08-04-2004, 01:24 AM
Regardless of the proper characters for the name on the side, is putting a specific name oon the side for a unit like a DD a good idea anyway given the fact that we'll have to throw 10 of the things around every CV?

I realize that players cannot skin non-aircraft objects (too bad, really), but if there isn't a fixed limit for numbers of seperate objects it's sure be nice to see different skins on ships of the same class to make it a little variable, and/or time specific (1942 paint, 1944 paint, different splinter patterns, etc).

Civilian cargo ships could be reskinned for various countries (just a flag change for some, perhaps a japanese flag painted on the side with a ship line name for them). APs (troop transports) were frequently ocean liners taken over by the navy. Make one typical liner type, paint it for IJN, USN, and Commonwealth to make 3 APs. Add a couple paint jobs for making them hospital ships. 1 liner could make 5 ships or more. 1 frieghter could make 3 freighters.

tater

theta_ops
08-04-2004, 09:44 PM
well, they already put the name there, so it's better to have the correct name, or have no name. btw, i said the correct character, second from the left and 3rd from the right, that's still the same place, but a-ki-ju-ki is how it appears to be written, and it's writter that way from right to left.

oh yes, that character on the 3d model has the "voiced" modifier on the upper right, but it's the 2 lines of the left that are incorrectly positioned. it's halfway between where it should be for ju and zu.

For zu it should be slanted pointing more towards the bottom.

I only noticed because i'm learning japanese and the chart for the hiragana and katakana in my book showed the difference. I'm glad some others noticed it, too.

[This message was edited by theta_ops on Wed August 04 2004 at 08:53 PM.]