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himmit
01-14-2004, 07:44 AM
Well, I just bought an Saitek X45, and boy was I impressed when I finall got it unwrapped it from alle the plastic, but alas the stick is great, the throttle is great altough with all the blinken lights I got a slight christmas feeling http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, Now then to the bad part, many had warned about the rudder control on the x45 which imho works great, it's the placement of it on the stick that sucks, or maybe the size of the throttle grip http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. It sits too far "down/forward"

My problems with it.

1. Cramped, couldn't get my pinkie to get a good placement on it, the other two fit snugly heh.
2. I had to change the grip on the throttle to get to the rudder rocker, and the my grip was so awkward that I could not adjust the throttle or reach some of the buttons http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

But when I got my damn fingers onto the rocker it worked great, oh well I returned it, anyone got a non-hotas stick with twist rudder to recomend ?

( Or else I have to get out my antique Quickshot from 95 with four read clickety click buttons & throttle, that is one quality stick for 10$, it still works after 8year of abuse http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

himmit
01-14-2004, 07:44 AM
Well, I just bought an Saitek X45, and boy was I impressed when I finall got it unwrapped it from alle the plastic, but alas the stick is great, the throttle is great altough with all the blinken lights I got a slight christmas feeling http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, Now then to the bad part, many had warned about the rudder control on the x45 which imho works great, it's the placement of it on the stick that sucks, or maybe the size of the throttle grip http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. It sits too far "down/forward"

My problems with it.

1. Cramped, couldn't get my pinkie to get a good placement on it, the other two fit snugly heh.
2. I had to change the grip on the throttle to get to the rudder rocker, and the my grip was so awkward that I could not adjust the throttle or reach some of the buttons http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

But when I got my damn fingers onto the rocker it worked great, oh well I returned it, anyone got a non-hotas stick with twist rudder to recomend ?

( Or else I have to get out my antique Quickshot from 95 with four read clickety click buttons & throttle, that is one quality stick for 10$, it still works after 8year of abuse http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

lbhskier37
01-14-2004, 08:33 AM
you could always switch your throttle axis so full power is when its towards you, in that position everything will be easier to use.

Cajun76
01-14-2004, 08:58 AM
If you want a HOTAS with rocker, look into the Thrustmaster Top Gun Afterburner. A new version even has FFB. It also has a twist stick option, if you want. 8 buttons and a hat, detachable thtottle with rudder rocker. not as fancy as an X45, but good for FB.

Good hunting,
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ElfunkoI
01-14-2004, 09:05 AM
I guesse as you get old your wrists tend to be the first thing to go. When I used to use the throttle rudder I never had a single problem, and I didn't have to invert the throttle. Maybe you guys have your arms completely extended or something...

Anyway, after using that and getting quite good at it I got CH Pro Peddles. If you could buy CH Pro Peddles I think you'd be set.

P.S. Twist stick is the same wrist movement it took to use the rocker on throttle.

MarkVI
01-14-2004, 09:17 AM
I got X45 for Christmas. I much likning it. Hooked to my old CH pedals and works good with them (after im figuring out how to do that.)

My single complain? Stick cover (the L-shape bracket in front of trigger) really too small formy large hand. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Makes it hard to get hand inside to shoot.

MarkVI

flyingskid2
01-14-2004, 10:48 AM
buy a rudder control. or if you're a cheapo or good with making things, just make one yourself. there are lots of websites showing how to do it. i made my own and happy with it - freed one slider, which i'm now using for elevator trim.

fng083
01-14-2004, 10:54 AM
I got a Thrustmaster Top Gun Afterburner 2 and i play always with twist stick option.
With rocker i have the same problem like himmit.
If you want to play with twist stick is this a very good joystick !

Heavy_Weather
01-14-2004, 11:06 AM
yeah the best solution for this problem would be to setup the throttle to pull toward you for acceleration.

"The wise man is often the man who plays dumb."

Mike_Green
01-14-2004, 11:23 AM
I was going to try to make some kind of stand for the throttle that held it low down and tilting away from me. But then I bought pedals so I didn't need to.

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JZG_Winter
01-14-2004, 12:36 PM
I would look at rudder pedals, like a few others have mentioned. Thrustmaster topgun has rudder in exactly the same position, so if it is uncomfortable on the x-45, it would be on the topgun.

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TheGozr
01-14-2004, 01:52 PM
X45 v2 coming soon?

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tenmmike
01-14-2004, 05:46 PM
you better hurry and try and get a msffb2.. they are getting harder to find by the day !!!!

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LeadSpitter_
01-14-2004, 09:06 PM
Get a gameport to usb adapter from radioshack so you can use the x45 throttle without the stick. You can use a twist stick with it which works great or get rudder pedals.

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Pilven_Veikko
01-15-2004, 12:30 AM
S!

I just bought CH Pro Throttle to accompany my MS Sidewinder Force feedback 2. Excellent combination to IL-2 FB. You can program the throttle buttons within the game. You can even use the stick's throttle lever as a prop lever or mixture lever, etc.

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BPLIzard
01-15-2004, 01:14 AM
You wanna trade that X-45 with my MSFFB2? I've used it for exactly 6 times and is in perfect working condition. I have 2 of these, actually. The #7 button on my old MSFFB2 is acting up after years of serving me so I opened the new one. Hmmmm?

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hobnail
01-15-2004, 03:52 AM
Have you removed the pinkie button guard? That just leaves a groove to place your pinkie in, lots more room.

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Kapt.Amisnaru
01-15-2004, 08:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pilven_Veikko:
S!

I just bought CH Pro Throttle to accompany my MS Sidewinder Force feedback 2. Excellent combination to IL-2 FB. You can program the throttle buttons within the game. You can even use the stick's throttle lever as a prop lever or mixture lever, etc.

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Pilvenveikko, you are from Fin? Do you know what a group called "pilvenveikot" is? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif