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mashkis
04-16-2004, 12:24 PM
Hi All,

I am thinking about getting a new stick and I am really not sure what to get. I would like to get a stick with force feedback and twist for rudders. I have a good system running XP. I mostly play, IL2, Lockon, and MSFS2004.

I am currently playing with a Logitech FF wingman force 3D but it seems loose and sloppy even on high force settings. It was fine when I got it but I think it is just getting old.

Please let me know your thoughts and what is the best stick out in the market.

Thanks,
Mashkis

mashkis
04-16-2004, 12:24 PM
Hi All,

I am thinking about getting a new stick and I am really not sure what to get. I would like to get a stick with force feedback and twist for rudders. I have a good system running XP. I mostly play, IL2, Lockon, and MSFS2004.

I am currently playing with a Logitech FF wingman force 3D but it seems loose and sloppy even on high force settings. It was fine when I got it but I think it is just getting old.

Please let me know your thoughts and what is the best stick out in the market.

Thanks,
Mashkis

S 8
04-16-2004, 12:29 PM
I looking for a new stick too.Currently Iam aiming for Saitek evo.X45 could be nice but space is an issue for me.I use the same stick as you for now,but I can´t get the feel for it and that pov hat is too far up for my thumb.

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Vortex_uk
04-16-2004, 12:29 PM
Do not,i repeat do not get another Logitech stick!!

I've had 2 of them and at first they seem all-right,but then they start going wrong,he axis arn't centred,the axis won't go all the way they're supposed to, eg. Left axis will go 100% the way its supposed to and the right will only go 50% so your flying is buggered up in-game! logitech have no hope of being decent stick makers!

But from what i've heard Saitek sticks are good.

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Venom079
04-16-2004, 12:39 PM
boycott logicrap IMO, what a waste of hard earned cash. I took Bearcat's, along with alot of other fellas advice and found myself a MSFFB2. Hard to find for the right price but it's definately worth the purchase. Couldn't believe the all-around difference. Not to be conceeded or anything, but after stashing the old logicrap wingman away in the closet and breaking out the new MS stick, I am a much better pilot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Seriously, controls are solid and smooth at the same time. Now all i need is a throttle...

good luck
Venom

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triggerhappyfin
04-16-2004, 12:42 PM
Why not make ur owne..spit style?http://falcon24.users.btopenworld.com/cca3.jpg

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mashkis
04-16-2004, 01:14 PM
I have heard that MSFFB2 is a good stick, but I have also heard that it will not work with XP?

Venom079
04-16-2004, 01:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mashkis:
I have heard that MSFFB2 is a good stick, but I have also heard that it will not work with XP?
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Older sticks, not the MSFFB2. It is fully compatible with XP(no problems here using XP home), not sure about when the new winOS comes out though...

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brasil66
04-16-2004, 03:09 PM
I have had an MSFFB2 for several years and it was very good. I just bought a Fighterstick(CH) and I have to say I think I prefer the MS over the FS. Dont know why. There are just too damned many buttons on the FS and its so light that I kind of throw it around. Also...the little wheel for the throttle..is well...little..much more difficult to adjust because of its low profile. About the only thing you get extra is the elevator trim adjust wheel..but the mouse can be used for that. I'd not spend the extra cash for the CH FS and go with a MSFFB2, even if you dont use the FF feature. Its a really , really good stick and it runs absolutely fine on XP Home Edition.

mashkis
04-17-2004, 12:49 PM
Hi all,

Thanks for your thoughts.

It looks like a lot of focus love their Saitek X45. I have been looking and can't tell. Is Saitek is force feedback stick? I really want FF feature.

What would be the best reliable, and accurate FF stick out there?

ASM 1
04-17-2004, 03:37 PM
The Saitek X45 doesnt have FF. Although many people use the throttle from the X45 in combination with an FFB2.

IMHO although I havent used anybody else's FFB stick (have used lots of other sticks though) the MSFFB2 is one of the best sticks ever made *slap* to microsoft for discontinuing them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I am trying to get a second one as backup but they are going for silly money on ebay.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Get a MSFFB2 if you can - no on second thoughts dont bother! I want it, its mine! LOL! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cheers

Andrew

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[This message was edited by asm016 on Sat April 17 2004 at 02:48 PM.]

ddsflyer
04-17-2004, 04:08 PM
Most will agree that C.H. Products makes the best sticks and HOTAS throttles. You can even get rudder pedals if you want to. They do not have twist rudder or force feedback however.

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