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WUAF_Badsight
02-21-2004, 12:43 PM

WUAF_Badsight
02-21-2004, 12:43 PM

crazyivan1970
02-21-2004, 12:57 PM
Badsight dude, you should change you name to Badidea http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

On the serious note, it would be cool to have something. The only problem is... we don`t have a single plane on allied side that will take off and land on it...asuming that runway will have same length and same width as standard carries does. Maybe biplanes will be able too...but only take off, not to land lol. Unless you wanna keep runway standard size..
Anyways, It will be interesting addition IMO.

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PBNA-GoldnEagle
02-21-2004, 01:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Badsight dude, you should change you name to Badidea http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

On the serious note, it would be cool to have something. The only problem is... we don`t have a single plane on allied side that will take off and land on it...asuming that runway will have same length and same width as standard carries does. Maybe biplanes will be able too...but only take off, not to land lol. Unless you wanna keep runway standard size..
Anyways, It will be interesting addition IMO.
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Heck, I bet you I could land an Il2 on a standard size "Carrier" runway. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You build the map and I'll show you. I'm confident. You think I can't do it? I'll prove to you I can! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'd say that's a challenge, eh mate? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Btw...I'll even go to say that I can takeoff in a P-39 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Here's the deal, you build the map and I'll show you I can land a IL2 and takeoff in a P-39. Deal? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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crazyivan1970
02-21-2004, 01:07 PM
You are in mate... what`s the size of the runway on average carrier WW2 era?

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

WUAF_Badsight
02-21-2004, 01:07 PM
these carrier islands would be one of 2 possible sizes

1) historically accurate for carrier only A/C

2) be big enough "spawn points" for all A/C in fb to take off from

this is a fun DF map tht is supposed to simulate air combat with nowhere to land except for you home carrier

woofiedog
02-21-2004, 01:19 PM
If the Carriers could move around the map and you would have to hunt them down to destroy them. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Or could deploy them to use a heavy hammer to knock out a target, this would be great.
But if their just sitting in the same area it become old fast. No thought in this, just the same old tactics mission after mission.
Change is good!

WUAF_Badsight
02-21-2004, 01:24 PM
they have to be islands ..... just islands that look like Carriers

this is because carriers are not possible , so we have been told

this is just an idear for a DF map , maybe as a compliment to the pacific one we have now

SKY_BOSS
02-21-2004, 01:34 PM
Hey! Oleg. Where is that pacific add on?

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crazyivan1970
02-21-2004, 01:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKY_BOSS:
Hey! Oleg. Where is that pacific add on?
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That`s not Oleg, that`s Luthier http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Tooz_69GIAP
02-21-2004, 01:42 PM
Has Luthier confirmed it is gonna be a pacific map?? I know all you yanks have more or less decided it will be, but is it really the case??

Why couldn't it be the Mediterranean theatre??? That had carriers, and stuff, and had a lot more interesting stuff happening in it.

Money wise, it may make more sense to UBI for marketing, but the Med is just such a more appealing TO, IMVHO.

Tooz

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zjulik
02-21-2004, 01:55 PM
This has been done -
http://mysite.freeserve.com/macawsite/tailhook/RAFvengeance.htm
Too bad the linked download site is down...

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woofiedog
02-21-2004, 02:08 PM
Could there be a way of placing the Carriers on the map so location would be random and that way they would remain static? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

p1ngu666
02-21-2004, 02:24 PM
u can take off in a short distance, plus on the carrier your 30metres or more above sea, so uve got a drop u use
landing will be hard. but u could use water to slow down quick
u cant land on objects either http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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p1ngu666
02-21-2004, 02:26 PM
just thought, in a BIGGLES book http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif they made a wooden runway to be just below water might have raised up, but im not sure :\
it was in a desert islands lake i finks

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necrobaron
02-21-2004, 02:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Has Luthier confirmed it is gonna be a pacific map?? I know all you yanks have more or less decided it will be, but is it really the case??

Why couldn't it be the Mediterranean theatre??? That had carriers, and stuff, and had a lot more interesting stuff happening in it.

Money wise, it may make more sense to UBI for marketing, but the Med is just such a more appealing TO, IMVHO.

Tooz

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Luthier hasn't confirmed but Oleg did in a e-mail. Luthier is the brains behind the project,I think,but hasn't released an official announcement. Also many of the modellers have hinted that they are doing planes that fit in the PTO. Oleg said the MTO would be a very likely add-on for BoB.

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woofiedog
02-21-2004, 02:30 PM
Tooz_69Giap,
Carriers were used from 39 through 45 during the war in most of the major battles of the war.
France and Britain used them during the Battle of France and the Royal Navy loss one during the naval battles of Norway.
To the battles of North Africa and the Mediterranean to the sinking of the German Battleship Bismarck.
They were one of the major keys for the Allies Victory and the winning of the war.
Even Germany and Italy were looking at ways of having a Carrier to support their Naval Groups. In both cases the Carriers they were building were not finished in time to be used during the war.

woofiedog
02-21-2004, 02:47 PM
zjulik,
Mint idea! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifI just opened the site link you provided.
I'll have to try it on the Normandy Map or the Finland Map with the islands on them.

VF-17_Jolly
02-21-2004, 03:25 PM
Carriers would be very welcome yes,but landing without a wire is not a good idea so unless we get a proper carrier that has an arrester wire, can move and get wind over the deck then an island hopping marine corsair will just have to do http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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A.K.Davis
02-21-2004, 03:33 PM
Why not just have island airbases? The carriers won't move or be destructable this way, so they would just be goofy looking islands anyways. And I imagine spawning during DF would be very amusing.

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Cajun76
02-21-2004, 03:47 PM
I want new maps, period. But without catupults and wires, takeoff and landing will be pretty hairy.

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p1ngu666
02-21-2004, 04:17 PM
amusingly enuff, a p47n was carrier sertified or whatever for takeoff
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WUAF_Badsight
02-21-2004, 04:37 PM
H E L L YEA !

georgeo76
02-21-2004, 05:43 PM
I'd like to see carriers in-game, even if they were just non-interactive AI.

As for the static "island" carrier, I don't see the need. I like carriers as much as the next guy, but a proper carrier landing requires much more than a 'workaround'. Only a pitching, rolling, turning into the wind, LSO manned, trap cable modeled, and tower controlled carrier would fit into this Sim.

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WUAF_Badsight
02-21-2004, 08:19 PM
this would simply be a 2 "island" FB map , with the islands being exactly like carriers

this would be a cheap way around but sure would be cool to use

ElAurens
02-21-2004, 08:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cajun76:
I want new maps, period. But without catupults and wires, takeoff and landing will be pretty hairy.
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Catapults were not needed on WW2 Carriers because propellor driven AC simply don't need them. Catapults were only made necessary by the advent of the Jet fighter.

Oh, BTW, the Brewster Buffalo is a carrier aircraft.

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Cajun76
02-22-2004, 12:37 AM
I agree most WWII a/c didn't need a cat, but I seem to recall one being used to launch P-47s that were being ferried. I could possibly see a P-47 with a splash of gas in the tank taking off for a nearby land base, but not a fully loaded and armed one. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif The Jug was rather known for being a runway hog.

Good hunting,
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zjulik
02-22-2004, 06:11 AM
Check your private topics woofiedog.

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Cajun76
02-24-2004, 11:18 AM
Found it. Cat launched P-47D.
http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/P-47catapult.jpg
A 318th FG P-47D-11-RE runs up to full power as it prepares for a catapult launch from the deck of the CVE Manila Bay off of Saipan.

I'd been racking my poor little brain trying to remember seeing a carrier launched P-47...

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