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DaBallz
05-28-2004, 06:59 PM
Why is it that the wings fall off the P-51
in dive recovery at under 650kph?
It's random, they do not always fail.
The g forces applied do not seem to matter.

If you are going to model wing failures
in an extremely safe plane, such as the P-51...
why not model the very common structural
failures in the Russian fighters?

I smell a very strong anti American, anti P-51 bias here.

Da...

DaBallz
05-28-2004, 06:59 PM
Why is it that the wings fall off the P-51
in dive recovery at under 650kph?
It's random, they do not always fail.
The g forces applied do not seem to matter.

If you are going to model wing failures
in an extremely safe plane, such as the P-51...
why not model the very common structural
failures in the Russian fighters?

I smell a very strong anti American, anti P-51 bias here.

Da...

LeadSpitter_
05-28-2004, 07:01 PM
it happens to all all aircraft now, wings will shed or it will instant explode.

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/LSIG1.gif

JG53Frankyboy
05-28-2004, 07:22 PM
well, my observation is that it is a question of Gs you pull !

the "problem" of the P51 is its very good elevator responce in high speed - you very quick can pull high G (also the reason for the "fast" black out).

the Yaks, Las ore 109s for example have a far less elevator response at high speed ( known as "cencrete" here in the community http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) , so, you cant reach that Gload, espcially not that fast.

there is a tool around that can show you your actual G-load while flying (only offline)

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/Frischluftduft-Unbenannt.JPG

- so, with that it would be able to test that exactly if interestet.

[This message was edited by JG53Frankyboy on Fri May 28 2004 at 06:33 PM.]

LeadSpitter_
05-28-2004, 07:38 PM
what program is that frankyboy, i also seen one that shows the aircraft controls hud, on the gauges it shows them off but on the hud it shows the aircraft as perfectly centered.

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/LSIG1.gif