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fluke39
08-27-2003, 11:07 AM
hi there

i have a few books on WW2 aviation which are mostly reference books and a few "novels". I have just finished "Fighter Pilot" by Paul Richey, maybe you have heard of it - it's an account of his time on hurricanes in the first few months of the war - whilst based in france with no.1 squadron RAF. Although it isn't all action and is too short (i want more !!) i rate it as one of the best books i have read for a while. I found it really interesting to hear about this period in the war ( from the RAF's perspective) which i have not heard much of - as other bigger events tend to get more "coverage" Eg Battle of britain, kursk, stalingrad d-day etc etc. the attitude of the forces - and of the civilan population in fact the whole "air" of the situation is a stark contrast to the devastation of battles such as stalingrad and other battles on the eastern front. the idea of "chivalry" is very much alive - and events such as inviting captured "huns" to dinner in the mess for putting on a "good show" and even removing all the trophies collected from german aircraft in WW1 from the mess, so as not to upset their visitor, seem to compound the contrast.

- i would be interested to hear if anyone has any other good books of this kind they could recommend or discuss a bit- covering any area of WWII aviation- in particular those written by the pilots themselves. as i have said i have many reference but few books describing air battles from the pilots perspective - how they flew and how they felt in battle.

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fluke39
08-27-2003, 11:07 AM
hi there

i have a few books on WW2 aviation which are mostly reference books and a few "novels". I have just finished "Fighter Pilot" by Paul Richey, maybe you have heard of it - it's an account of his time on hurricanes in the first few months of the war - whilst based in france with no.1 squadron RAF. Although it isn't all action and is too short (i want more !!) i rate it as one of the best books i have read for a while. I found it really interesting to hear about this period in the war ( from the RAF's perspective) which i have not heard much of - as other bigger events tend to get more "coverage" Eg Battle of britain, kursk, stalingrad d-day etc etc. the attitude of the forces - and of the civilan population in fact the whole "air" of the situation is a stark contrast to the devastation of battles such as stalingrad and other battles on the eastern front. the idea of "chivalry" is very much alive - and events such as inviting captured "huns" to dinner in the mess for putting on a "good show" and even removing all the trophies collected from german aircraft in WW1 from the mess, so as not to upset their visitor, seem to compound the contrast.

- i would be interested to hear if anyone has any other good books of this kind they could recommend or discuss a bit- covering any area of WWII aviation- in particular those written by the pilots themselves. as i have said i have many reference but few books describing air battles from the pilots perspective - how they flew and how they felt in battle.

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 11:31 AM
One of my all time favorites is "Wing Leader", by Johnny Johnson. The book is an auto-biographical look at an RAF Spitfire pilot's war time career. It covers his rushed training during the Battle of Britain (and posting to an active unit at the end of that battle) up till the end of the war. He wound up as the highest scoring RAF fighter pilot of the war.

Originally published back in the '50's (I believe), it can still be found ocasionally in libraries or used book stores.

What I consider to be "companion" volumes to "Wing Leader" are the books by Adolf Galland. The first (the name of which I forget now), published in the '50's, is not quite as comprehensive as the later volume -"Fighter General" (??)- published in the '60's or '70's.

There are several others I enjoyed reading... such as the book "Samurai" by Saburo Sakai and Martin Caidin(?), details Sakai's war time career as an IJN Zero pilot.

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fluke39
08-27-2003, 12:10 PM
Thanks - i will keep an eye out for those, (especially Wing leader - sounds like just what i'm after/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif )

WWSandMan wrote:
- One of my all time favorites is "Wing Leader", by
- Johnny Johnson. The book is an auto-biographical
- look at an RAF Spitfire pilot's war time career. It
- covers his rushed training during the Battle of
- Britain (and posting to an active unit at the end of
- that battle) up till the end of the war.


one of the things that struck me about "fighter pilot" was the fact it only covered a tiny period of the war. I was expecting i,t as many books do - to cover up until the end of the war - indeed after returing to england he flew typhoons as a squadron leader (when typhoons came out). altough i have no complaints about the book it would be interested to hear about this too. however -
fighter pilot was first published during the war (1943?) - and as such was the first book written by a WW2 pilot about WW2

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 02:49 PM
I have the following books........which I would be happy to give any one free.........for the postage:

>The Last Enemy..........Richard Hillary........1961. (looks like a 1st Ed. paperback in VG condition)
>The Luftwaffe War diaries..........Cajus Bekker.......1971. English tranlation
>Spitfire into War..........Sandy Johnstone. air vice marshal. CB DFC AE. 1986
>Strike from the Sky - the Battle of Britain Story.......Alexander McKee. 1969
>Tale of a Guinea Pig.......Geoffrey Page. 1981
>The Bombing of Nuremburg..........James Campbell. 1974
>633 Squadron.........Frederick E. Smith. 1964
>Bomber......Len Deighton. 1971
>Goodbye, Mickey Mouse.........Len Deighton. 1983

all are in paperback

The only trouble is.... I'm living in Thailand........if you're coming on holiday....come and get them!

Fred_blandford@DELETETHIShotmail.com ...........'loon'...fabianfred (on UBI)

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 04:16 PM
"the big show"
by Pierre Clostermann,
a WWII Ace,
is the best book I have read about WWII Pilots

"Flames in the sky"
by the same man, is another good one

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:22 PM
Some of my favorites

"Big Show" by Clostermann - terrific reading.

"Terror in the starboard seat" by David Macintosh - war memories from a canadian Mosquito navigator. Excellent.

"Half a wing, three engines and a prayer" by Brian O´Neill -wartime experiences of one crew from the 303rd "Hell's Angels" Bomb Group, lots of personal accounts. Excellent.

"I flew for the Fuhrer" by Heinz Knoke - a classic.

"Stuka Pilot" by Hans-Ulrich Rudel - although Rudel is a nazi his wartime career was indeed great. Very good if one give a blind eye on his political views.

"The Mighty Eighth" by Gerald Astor - based on memoirs and eyewitness accounts from bomber and fighter pilots, air gunners, mechanics, bombardiers, and navigators of the Eighth Air Force. Excellent.

I´m waiting anxiously for "Graf & Grislawski" by Christer Bergstrom and Vlad Antipov


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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:28 PM
He wrote a few pop-up books!

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:32 PM
Try Axis Aircraft of World War II by, David Mondey

If you wanna know anything about the Axis aircraft used in WWII or even look up some good paint schemes, try this book well worth the money..

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 06:38 PM
JV44Priller wrote:
- Try Axis Aircraft of World War II by, David Mondey
-
- If you wanna know anything about the Axis aircraft
- used in WWII or even look up some good paint
- schemes, try this book well worth the money..

I just bought that book at an airshow, i can recommend it too for tech-specs and history on the different models. It doesnt contain any pilot accounts tho and as always im going to recommend "Double Fighter Knight" by Ilmari Juutilainen, finlands highest scoring ace. A very good book wich covers the war from the beginning of the winter war 1939 to the end of continuation war 1944.