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Goxxi
12-11-2014, 05:51 PM
Well ACV is very specific in that sense , couse untill now for each sequel more or less we could know what potencial targets we could expect and which characters from that setting were "suspicious" and died on brutal way (were assissinated) but this time ACU , I have no any idea , not even for only one potencial target , in that period were alot of famous historical characters , but they were mostly scientists , artists , writers.......etc , do not know about some historical figures from Victorian London who were involved into some dramatical , tumultuous or contraversal events.

Do U have any ideas ?

D.I.D.
12-11-2014, 06:56 PM
I wrote another post on this with a whole list of people.

One big thing is the dissolution of the East India Company in 1875. Many of the officers and directors of the company committed terrible crimes in India in the course of cheating the country out of its wealth, and returned behaving nearly as badly at home. Some of them caused considerable upset among the rest of the powerful people in England and Scotland by flaunting their wealth ostentatiously, and insisting they were above the law. The company was so huge, it contained between 50% and 66% of the entire world's wealth, and yet large amount of that money were never properly accounted in the death of the firm. You could make a string of assassinations beginning anywhere you like and continuing as long after 1875 as you like.

Any death in that period can be reframed as an assassination that was covered up, and there are lots of deaths among senior EIC figures during the period: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_East_India_Company_directors

This guy http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/974239-Detour-to-Surrey-please would make the perfect final target. Read down the thread for more reasons, connected to his death at the Royal Courts of Justice.

Charles Bravo could make a good stealth mission, to infiltrate the house and poison him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bravo

Amelia Dyer could be captured (but not killed) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Dyer

Same for Thomas Cream http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Neill_Cream

Goxxi
12-11-2014, 08:12 PM
EIC makes sense , Charles Bravo too , but the last 2 (Amelia Dyer and Thomas Neill Cream) seems to me just a random psychos and do not see how they could be important for the story.

Also Adam Worth could make appearance in the game , he could be maybe even the ally , he was just a robbr, outlaw , so I think his character has a potencial to be portrayed not as a bad guy , then just a tough guy , I think he could be portrayed as a good guy in general with some personal sense for justice.

I think that bankers from London City would be a potentially intresting targets , London City is one small and very exclusive banking district of London which does not even belong the city of London, on some way that is a center of global financial and banking dictatorship , for example the banks on Wall Street are actually subordinated to the London City.
And all dirty money from EIC, human trafficking , slave trade , opium trafficking....etc was ending up in banks of London City.

D.I.D.
12-11-2014, 08:36 PM
Yeah, or industrialists, aristocrats. There are lots of potential targets due to financial scandals, frauds, trade wars.

There are also the criminal gangs of the districts, who can serve in place of official guards for gameplay purposes, so that we don't always have to be up against police. They'd also add more variety, since it would be more fitting to find their members on rooftops or chasing you on higher levels than for police to be doing the same. Their leaders could be targets.

If you want an insight into murder during the period, "The Invention of Murder" by Judith Flanders is worth a look.

spotgimer
12-11-2014, 11:06 PM
How bout...........corrupt assassins. Kind of like the one you hunt down in revelations.

Goxxi
12-13-2014, 04:07 AM
Yeah, or industrialists, aristocrats. There are lots of potential targets due to financial scandals, frauds, trade wars.

There are also the criminal gangs of the districts, who can serve in place of official guards for gameplay purposes, so that we don't always have to be up against police. They'd also add more variety, since it would be more fitting to find their members on rooftops or chasing you on higher levels than for police to be doing the same. Their leaders could be targets.

If you want an insight into murder during the period, "The Invention of Murder" by Judith Flanders is worth a look.

well yes , fact is that most part of influental and powerful industrials , bankers and aristocrats were deeply involved in network of various secret societies and were a members of secret societies, especially of freemasonry.

D.I.D.
12-13-2014, 04:23 AM
well yes , fact is that most part of influental and powerful industrials , bankers and aristocrats were deeply involved in network of various secret societies and were a members of secret societies, especially of freemasonry.

Did you ever see the Project Legacy AC files? They had a story about William Robert Woodman (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Science:_Chapter_4_-_Frater_V.O.V.), as part of a Victorian occult group using the rituals of the Hermeticists (last seen in Brotherhood's DLC) who induce weird post-poisoning effects in him. He sees the past and the future. There's a hint in all of this that perhaps a combination of ritual and a coma could function as a kind of technology-free animus, and that perhaps this method had been used before. Woodman's group seemed to know what it was trying to do, and used this ritual on him deliberately.

There is talk of "evoking spirits", but perhaps they're talking to echoes of TWCB. He described them as the Secret Chiefs, which isn't a name Ubisoft invented. These figures are an established legend, not just to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn but to other cultures too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Chiefs

Incidentally, of the Golden Dawn people described in that file:
William Robert Woodman - real person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Robert_Woodman)
Samuel Mathers - real person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Liddell_MacGregor_Mathers)
Moina Mathers - real person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moina_Mathers)
Gustav Meyrink - real person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Meyrink)
Florence Farr - real person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Farr)
Edmund William Berridge - real person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_William_Berridge)
William Wynn Westcott - real person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wynn_Westcott)
and I hope people would recognise Aleister Crowley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley) as another.

MasterAssasin84
12-13-2014, 03:31 PM
Coming from the East of London Myself I am really excited to see how Ubisoft will pull this off .

I was on my to work yesterday and I have to go through Stepney Green and it really made me think that this game has amazing potential !! ....


I wonder if they will touch on Jack The Ripper .