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EmbodyingSeven5
12-08-2014, 11:38 PM
this thread is dedicated to listing people from ANY era including our own theorizing who could be Templars in the AC verse. after each person is listed put reason for thinking so below.

My Starter Theory

John Lennon


Proof:

Lyrics to his song Imagine


Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too

Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man

Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will live as one


this is a lighthearted thread as well so have fun:p

wvstolzing
12-09-2014, 12:31 AM
Steve Jobs

Explanation: The most successful inside-agent before Lucy Stillman. He was given the task to get the Apple in the possession of a young assassin, Steve Wozniak. The first leg of his operation was a great success, as he was able to channel the talents of Wozniak into the foundation of a suggestively named, and increasingly successful tech company. His decision to install fellow Templar, former Pepsi CEO Terry Scully as the CEO of the company finally resolved Assassin's doubts as to his true allegiances, and he was ousted. Years later, he would return to -- allegedly -- save the company with the help, yet again, of a fellow Templar, this time William H. Gates. With Jobs back in power, the company grew to become the most secretive Abstergo subsidiary, spearheading their digital surveillance program alongside another Templar operation, led by Eric Schmidt, whose story intertwines with that of Jobs in 'interesting' ways.

As of now, Wozniak the Assassin spends his days tweeting about what Steakhouse he's currently eating at.

EmbodyingSeven5
12-09-2014, 02:15 AM
Steve Jobs

Explanation: The most successful inside-agent before Lucy Stillman. He was given the task to get the Apple in the possession of a young assassin, Steve Wozniak. The first leg of his operation was a great success, as he was able to channel the talents of Wozniak into the foundation of a suggestively named, and increasingly successful tech company. His decision to install fellow Templar, former Pepsi CEO Terry Scully as the CEO of the company finally resolved Assassin's doubts as to his true allegiances, and he was ousted. Years later, he would return to -- allegedly -- save the company with the help, yet again, of a fellow Templar, this time William H. Gates. With Jobs back in power, the company grew to become the most secretive Abstergo subsidiary, spearheading their digital surveillance program alongside another Templar operation, led by Eric Schmidt, whose story intertwines with that of Jobs in 'interesting' ways.

As of now, Wozniak the Assassin spends his days tweeting about what Steakhouse he's currently eating at.[/QUOTE]



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cawatrooper9
12-09-2014, 02:26 AM
Templar: Alex Jones

Why?: He floods his news channels with extremely ridiculous conspiracy theories about the New World Order, Clockwork Elves, etc. He does this only to make conspiracy theories seem ridiculous, so as to cover up the Templar's presence. Those who he does attack with his crackpot theories are actually the Assassins- so the few who are fooled by his deception become his army- his "Initiates"- against the modern day Assassins.

I-Like-Pie45
12-09-2014, 02:37 AM
Templar: Cas Anvar

One of Assassins who survived the Great Purge, Phillip Shahbaz, was sent by his Assassin cell to infiltrate Abstergo Entertainment's cinema division where he was cast as the lead of their upcoming movie "The Assassination of Al Mualim by the Coward Altair Ibn La Ahad" but his unwillingness to comply with the director's demands such as stereotypical middle eastern accent led him to being found out and "fired" and replaced with Templar agent Cas Anvar who from that day forth became "I am Altair." while Phillip Shahbaz disappeared into obscurity as the "original Assassin"...

Namikaze_17
12-09-2014, 02:42 AM
Templar: Neriat Pemk

A sophisticated man with much vision and class...

It's sad to see him go... :(


Rumor has it that he founded the very fold we have today. ^^

I am honored he chose me.

MakimotoJin
12-09-2014, 02:42 AM
Every single person in politics of Brazil.

Altair1789
12-09-2014, 02:43 AM
Google

They want to own the internet. Ubisoft has many times compared themselves to Abstergo too. And then there's the NSA being basically the observatory

MakimotoJin
12-09-2014, 02:45 AM
Oh and Lizard Squad.They're definitely Templars.

Rafe Harwood
12-09-2014, 02:47 AM
Steve Jobs

Explanation: The most successful inside-agent before Lucy Stillman. He was given the task to get the Apple in the possession of a young assassin, Steve Wozniak. The first leg of his operation was a great success, as he was able to channel the talents of Wozniak into the foundation of a suggestively named, and increasingly successful tech company. His decision to install fellow Templar, former Pepsi CEO Terry Scully as the CEO of the company finally resolved Assassin's doubts as to his true allegiances, and he was ousted. Years later, he would return to -- allegedly -- save the company with the help, yet again, of a fellow Templar, this time William H. Gates. With Jobs back in power, the company grew to become the most secretive Abstergo subsidiary, spearheading their digital surveillance program alongside another Templar operation, led by Eric Schmidt, whose story intertwines with that of Jobs in 'interesting' ways.

As of now, Wozniak the Assassin spends his days tweeting about what Steakhouse he's currently eating at.

You need hiring to help write the next game!

MakimotoJin
12-09-2014, 02:51 AM
Also,we need a Assassin Assumptions Thread.I have one person in mind.

wvstolzing
12-09-2014, 04:14 AM
Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie

In the early-to-mid 80s, the Templar duo successfully infiltrated the 'new comedy' scene, led by Assassins such as Rik Mayall and Ade Edmondson. (Indeed, this was a time during which the Templars were redoubling their efforts to gain a foothold in comedy: Previous generations had seen insider-agent John Cleese, and Assassin convert Dudley Moore gain international renown, but comedy had always been the domain of Assassins in Britain.) They even contributed significantly to project 'Blackadder': Initially an Assassin-backed project, which disintigrated as Fry and Laurie converted Rowan Atkinson and Ben Elton to their cause. In the early 90s, Fry and Laurie established themselves as household names, with the second successful Templar series on the BBC, after Fawlty Towers.

Since then they've gone on to lead several public disinformation projects. Fry's latest scheme to warp public consciousness and make a vacuous display of himself a wikipedia-derived information-monger, Qi, has proven to be a great success, and is currently in its 12th season.

JustPlainQuirky
12-09-2014, 04:16 AM
Templar: Red Cross

It's called Red Cross and they ask for blood that could be used for spying. I believe the Red Cross was founded by templars.

Templar: illuminati

They work underground and manipulate people and government. Enough said.

VestigialLlama4
12-09-2014, 04:20 AM
1) Edward Snowden - A Templar sleeper agent who claims to co-opt hacktivist rhetoric by betraying state secrets, who has contradictory ideas and actions, and ends up becoming a resident of the Templar Nation of Russia under Grand Master Putin, denounces American corruption by exaggerating state surveillance while remaining silent about Putin's persecution of homosexuals.

2) Rupert Murdoch - Media Baron, Billionaire who uses political clout via Fox News and News of the World to gear state to suit his business interests. Introduced low ethical standards in newspapers and becoming enormously powerful. Uses tax havens to dodge payments to other nations.

3) Osama Bin Laden - Templar Agent who took credit for the 9/11 attacks in the public eye, so as to intensify the state security apparatus in a post-Cold War era where there were no threats. The Templars believe that this idea will paradoxically help mass assimiliation by forcing people to consider Western Liberal Democracy and American Intervention as Central facets of Global Diplomacy. The Templars later orchestrated his death by borrowing tactics from their Assassin foes - "infiltration, planning out the area and attacking however they please" so as to better impress the public how cool and awesome the military are, even when they violate Pakistani sovereignty to achieve their goals.

4) Saddam Hussein/Gaddafi/Mubarak - Templar Puppets of Cold War era who subsequently felt abandoned by governing status-quo and so sought to impose their own Templar agenda on local population, rebelling against governing New World Order. The Templars largely ignored them until recent political events gave them mileage to put them down on world stage to better increase PR.

5) George Lucas/Michael Bay/Jerry Bruckheimer - Vital cogs of the Templar propaganda division on the cultural front, introducing simple conflicts of "good vs. evil" and "black vs. white" while making enforcers of order look "cool" to the public eye.

6) Michael Jackson - Their most successful attempt at providing an example of cultural assimilation via mass media consumption, Michael Jackson's lyrics lacked the edge and attitude of emerging gangsta rap music as a more marketable and less intense version of 60s soul acts and dance steps borrowed from Broadway legend Bob Fosse(a key Assassin ally).

7) Bollywood - The Indian Film Industry, the second largest in the world is a vital link in their propaganda division to keep the world's largest democracy in check via unchecked and untrammelled celebration and perversion of Indian traditions by providing the same bland plots, childish storytelling and other gimmicks to keep the population in line.

8) William Randolph Hearst - The Predecessor to Rupert Murdoch. Hearst newspapers allowed Templars to co-opt both "liberal" and "conservative" causes, blurring the lines of public and private life via yellow press. The Assassin Orson Welles deconstructed this system in his film CITIZEN KANE but the Hearst newspapers buried its initial release and mounted a campaign to defame and exile Welles from Hollywood, though they failed to destroy the print of Citizen Kane or deny the influence of the film on later generations

wvstolzing
12-09-2014, 04:28 AM
The Houser Brothers (founders of R*)

In 1991, a group of Scottish game developers who called themselves DMA Design released a game, which they hoped would get the attention of a secret society they wanted to partake in: The game, of course, was 'Lemmings', an allegorial representation of humanity's future, as DMA Design would like to see it unfold. It did, indeed, get the attention of the secret society: The newly founded Abstergo subsidiary, Rockstar Games, saw the potential in the makers of Lemmings -- they had absorbed Templar Principles all on their own, and they were ready for initiation. Rockstar acquired DMA, and thus began the momentous collaboration between the masterminds behind Rockstar, the Houser Brothers, and the circle of newly inducted Templar autodidacts, Rockstar North.

Together they have been releasing games designed to eradicate all sense of morality in the public. Ostensibly satirical of consumerism, and the vapidity of popular media, the productions of R* North *contribute* to consumerism and reality-tv culture, making them the most perverted agents of Abstergo psychological operations.

VestigialLlama4
12-09-2014, 04:35 AM
Now these ones are more interesting I feel. Let's call them ambiguous Templars.

NIETZCHE- A Templar Wild Card who hated chaos, doubted the possibilities of social freedom, valorized powerful bold leaders who rose above the common run (the Ubermensch) and criticized democracy and socialism. However Nietzche realized that the Templar New World Order is pretty boring to actually live in and criticized the Templar Artist Richard Wagner for his musically profound but culturally vapid kitsch as well as the shallow German nationalism coupled with xenophobia and anti-semitism. Nietzche eventually came to admire Assassin statesman Niccolo Machiavelli and infuriated mainstream Templars by praising the Assassin Brotherhood publicly:


When the Christian crusaders in the Orient came across that unconquered Order of Assassins, that free-spirited order par excellence, whose lowest ranks lived a life of obedience of the sort no order of monks attained, then they received by some means or other a hint about that symbol and motto, which only the highest ranks kept as their secret, "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." . . . Well now, that was spiritual freedom. With that the very belief in truth was cancelled. . . Has a European, a Christian free spirit ever wandered by mistake into this proposition and its labyrinthine consequences? Has he come to know the Minotaur of this cavern from his own experience? . . . I doubt it. More that that: I know differently. Nothing is more immediately foreign to people set on one thing, these so-called "free spirits," than freedom and emancipation in this sense. In these matters they are more firmly bound, because they believe in the truth, as no one else does, firmly and unconditionally.
-- On the Genealogy of Morals


The Templars eventually posioned Nietzsche and drove him insane via his evil sister. Later, Templar-Nazis would eventually try and co-opt some of Nietzsche's ideas via puppet philosopher Heidegger but French Assassins (via their Surrealist front) managed to rescue his ironical, rich, contradictory philosophy from Templar simplification.


DOSTOEVSKY - A former Assassin turned Templar. Dostoevsky wrote books which showed how obsessive Assassins will fall into patterns of loneliness, alienation and self-destruction and how a social order founded on tradition would finally be their only option. However, the intensity and sympathy with which Dostoevsky wrote these books, his refusal of simple black-and-white propaganda challenged Templar glib doctrine. They tried to destroy his career by inducing epileptic seizures and sending Templar book-keepers to claim his gambling debts. Eventually Dostoevsky infuriated Templar doctrine by stating in his final book a rebutal to their goal of order, "If God does not exist, then everything is permitted".

Templars ironically find Dostoevsky more challenging and less propaganda friendly than Tolstoy(a Templar turned Assassin).

cawatrooper9
12-09-2014, 03:49 PM
David Berkowitz, the infamous "Son of Sam" killer of of the 1970s. A former Templar Grandmaster, he was deposed when his radical views did not match with Abstergo's attempt at a more friendly-looking public image. It wasn't until after they fired David that they realized who he truly was- a Sage. David, knowing that Abstergo was after him (as well as being mad with passion to restore his Juno) led the New York City police on a chase, in the hopes that such a heavy police presence on his trail would deter the Templars from following him. The letters that he sent to the police, taunting them, reveal his sage nature. Here are but a few excerpts proving this:

"Papa Sam is old now. He needs some blood to preserve his youth."
Reference to the collection of blood vials, perhaps?

"I miss my pretty princess most of all. She's resting in our Ladies house, but I'll see her soon."
VERY clear reference to Juno being locked away in the Temple.

"I don't belong on Earth. Return me to Yahoos."
Hmm, I wonder where Yahoos is. Maybe the planet that the First Civ came from, settling visiting Earth? :P

"May God bless you in this life, and in the next, and for now."
Reference to the Sage's reincarnation.

"Police, let me haunt you with these words. I'll be back! I'll be back! To be interpreted as bang, bang, bang, bang, bang- ugh!!"
Very clear reference to the Sage's reincarnation, including taunting the police with his undying nature.

"Master Glassman, you are a man of power (the power of darkness). You are hereby ordered to unleash your terror on the people."
At this point, in his third letter, Berkowitz realized that the Templars had infiltrated the police pursuit of him. In response, Berkowitz here pleads (albeit a bit sarcastically) with his former brother, Craig Glassman, to end the pursuit and focus on gaining power in New York City.

His final letter, written in prison, reveals that he is glad to be protected by police presence, but knows that it will not protect him from the Templars forever: "I am so glad that I've been apprehended, but I wish that someone would help me. Final desperation."

Hans684
12-09-2014, 05:55 PM
William Wilberforce

Confucius

Plato

VestigialLlama4
12-09-2014, 06:08 PM
William Wilberforce

Confucius

Confucius is an Assassin. He emphasized knowledge and humility, he admitted to imperfections, he insisted that people accept their limitations and also that they they be the kind of person they ask others to be in society.

As for Wilberforce, he's one of those liberal Templars so I will give him that.

Hans684
12-09-2014, 06:12 PM
Confucius is an Assassin. He emphasized knowledge and humility, he admitted to imperfections, he insisted that people accept their limitations and also that they they be the kind of person they ask others to be in society.

Or a thing called Dedicated Templar Visonary/Moderate Templar.


As for Wilberforce, he's one of those liberal Templars so I will give him that.

Dedicated Templar Visionary/Moderate Templar.