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RedDeth
05-19-2004, 02:19 PM
Spit9 can compete with the k4 now and has more cannon ammo. its dangerous.

yak3P will be new uber russian plane. it and the ya9UT can both dive much faster about 120 faster and have uber guns and climb well too.

all american planes are better due to 50s being stronger. jug zoom climbs about 40 percent better or im nutz.

all german guns hurt now

ki84 is MUCH easier to kill. its no longer the uber noober plane .

biggest change i think is the high climbing very fast spit 9s with triple the cannon ammo. they will change the game .

jugs will be a huge pain now .

I-185 isnt as uber noober as i thought it would be. its kinda slow but its a 42 plane.

any plane can now shoot down any other plane. mustangs can now down B17s.

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RedDeth
05-19-2004, 02:19 PM
Spit9 can compete with the k4 now and has more cannon ammo. its dangerous.

yak3P will be new uber russian plane. it and the ya9UT can both dive much faster about 120 faster and have uber guns and climb well too.

all american planes are better due to 50s being stronger. jug zoom climbs about 40 percent better or im nutz.

all german guns hurt now

ki84 is MUCH easier to kill. its no longer the uber noober plane .

biggest change i think is the high climbing very fast spit 9s with triple the cannon ammo. they will change the game .

jugs will be a huge pain now .

I-185 isnt as uber noober as i thought it would be. its kinda slow but its a 42 plane.

any plane can now shoot down any other plane. mustangs can now down B17s.

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VW-IceFire
05-19-2004, 02:20 PM
That is what I was hoping to hear....with all sorts of these new possibilities it means that you really have to be a good pilot or know what your doing. Fantastic!

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RedDeth
05-19-2004, 02:25 PM
rgr most pilots in most planes if flown correctly can be a threat with experience. kinda like in real life

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altstiff
05-19-2004, 02:28 PM
Not to mention the new spits can have a bomb loadout!

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WUAF_Boxer
05-19-2004, 02:31 PM
Yep, I'm so glad that they improved this.

DangerForward
05-19-2004, 02:32 PM
Seems like the P47D27 rolls much better now.

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RedDeth
05-19-2004, 03:01 PM
all the jugs roll way better. i was rolling with a yak online just now. no problem. i think he was shocked

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Gibbage1
05-19-2004, 03:03 PM
P-38 also rolls better. No more 6 second roll bug for me!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RedDeth:
all the jugs roll way better. i was rolling with a yak online just now. no problem. i think he was shocked

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My post's are my asumptions only, and in no way linked to fact. I am not an official 1C, Ubi, or Russian Red Rocket spokesman.

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PBNA-Boosher
05-19-2004, 03:10 PM
WOOOOOOOT! NEW YAKS! HURRAH!

I'm sorry, I've been following in the footsteps of Lilya Litvyak lately. I fly her Yaks regularly, any new addition is certainly good!

LEXX_Luthor
05-19-2004, 03:29 PM
CR.42 has bombs now. We needed more Biplanes with bombs.

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SeaFireLIV
05-19-2004, 04:00 PM
I really like the extended `Over the shoulder` rear view, and tougher guns. Trying to see if any improvements to AI. There is less kill stealing, but that`s because aircraft are now going down faster.

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RedDeth
05-19-2004, 06:31 PM
rgr that

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Menthol_moose
05-19-2004, 06:50 PM
stuck at work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif .. but gotta know especially

Do the 151/20's hit harder now ?

The_Gorey
05-19-2004, 07:15 PM
^ hell yeah they do :P

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Charos
05-19-2004, 07:18 PM
OH Happy days - I can stop playing "IL2 Flight Sim 2004" enjoying the Scenery and now shoot stuff down.

50% of what I wanted has been provided

Still waiting on dedicated server.

Menthol_moose
05-19-2004, 07:19 PM
but you'd have to agree the 151/20 really sucked hard before. :P

BennyMoore
05-19-2004, 09:53 PM
I fly G-2, and I never had a problem killing things in my sights. But apparently the Lightning is now a viable alternative.

WUAF_Badsight
05-19-2004, 10:24 PM
Benny the 151/20 in the nose of the G2 was waaay underpowered

good to hear its been corrected

johann63
05-19-2004, 10:36 PM
I tested the P-47 D22 and it seems to roll better and take more stick pressure but as far as zooming better in my opinion I would so nope.

And for the .50 cals, I would defenitly so, no change. I put concentrated fire into IL4s and Ju88s with all 8 guns on close convergance with no major death killing damage.

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VFA-195 Snacky
05-19-2004, 10:41 PM
At a convergence of 250m I am seeing more damage from the .50 in the P51. Mustang appears to have more power also,but not sure if I'm seeing things.
All in All the patch is great and I don't hear too many folks complaining (at least those who know what the heck they are talking about.lol)

My only gripe is the engine overheating and how easy it is to overheat your engine now. Is that correct??

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xenios
05-19-2004, 10:50 PM
What, no whiners? People are actually happy with a patch?
Okay, I've got one: I want flyable B-25s and Ju88s. Gimme!

Menthol_moose
05-19-2004, 10:53 PM
yeah .50 dispersion !!!!

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or is it going to be the next F190 bar type issue ?

easymo
05-19-2004, 11:41 PM
I dont know what these "better guns" are on. But it sure aint the KI's 30mm bounce off like nerf ammo.

Giganoni
05-20-2004, 12:51 AM
Luthier said that the patch doesn't touch the .50 cals, so either your having a little placebo effect or your fighting something thats DM has been tweaked.

AFJ_Skyghost
05-20-2004, 02:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Giganoni:
Luthier said that the patch doesn't touch the .50 cals, so either your having a little placebo effect or your fighting something thats DM has been tweaked.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I don't know if they changed how hard the bullets hit or the damage model of the planes, what I know is that I was killing online Ki84s and 190s with my Mustang way easier than before.
A small burst on the correct convergence distance and most planes get in flames.
This is no BS, I was getting 3, 4 and once or twice 5 kills with each plane so something has changed, that is for sure

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HamishUK
05-20-2004, 02:46 AM
Nothing on the guns has changed at all. They are exactly the same!

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Aaron_GT
05-20-2004, 03:10 AM
"I really like the extended `Over the shoulder` rear view,"

Have the rear views been modified across the board to a 'pan and lean' model, perhaps? (I've downloaded the patch at work but I won't get chance to install and try it out until the weekend)

RedDeth
05-20-2004, 04:40 AM
please provide proof the 50s were not changed. they were changed in beta and still seem changed now

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Fennec_P
05-20-2004, 05:02 AM
There is either some global modifier that makes all guns stronger, or a global modifier that makes all planes weaker.

Stuff dies with half the hits now, whatever guns your using.

The dispersion does not seem to be changed, which is probably what Luthier is referring to.

tigerroach
05-20-2004, 06:34 AM
I agree that the weapons are hitting harder, based on the one sortie I had time for last night flying the BF109F. Both damage to my plane and my target seemed much worse per hit compared to before.

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EmbarkChief
05-20-2004, 07:19 AM
Yeah, I saw Luthier's comment about the .50's also. Maybe they didn't change anything about the weapon, but unless I'm going crazy there sure seems to be much less recoil in the -47 and -38 as it should be. With less recoil throwing the plane around the dispersion should be less. Take one up in QMB and cut loose with it and tell me what you think, maybe its just me.