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mortoma
03-22-2004, 09:49 AM
The title says it all, this includes both the Winter War and the Continuation War totals.
So why if do we not have a cockpit for the 406, 410 and the Morko??

mortoma
03-22-2004, 09:49 AM
The title says it all, this includes both the Winter War and the Continuation War totals.
So why if do we not have a cockpit for the 406, 410 and the Morko??

FI_Deathsledge
03-22-2004, 10:13 AM
its cause the end of the world is coming and they just didnt have enough time to do it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/354.gif

Capt_Haddock
03-22-2004, 02:38 PM
Mortoma, there are no obscure reasons for it
No modeller was interested in the Morane cockpit. That's all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Curly_109
03-22-2004, 03:53 PM
tottaly agreed with mortoma... what about moranes? they used to be pretty important A/C for the FAF... topic title sayz it all... we've got a far less important A/C's in-game... who the h**l need the A6M5 or A6M2 in the eastern front or B17? for that matter and mustang? someone might not agreed with me but that's all facts, in my oppinion...

not to mention fokker D.XXI missing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cheerz

LEXX_Luthor
03-22-2004, 05:28 PM
Must agree with you totally except this is not just Easter Front sim anymore. Sorry. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Most Forgotten Plane is Bf-109 B, C, and D. Even teh USA LuftWhiners don't want to see these. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif


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PBNA-Boosher
03-22-2004, 06:22 PM
Because, Mortama, the cockpit info for the Ms406, 410, and Morane are just about Zilch. If we could, we would model it. Hell, if anyone got decent pics, we'd do it, but there's none available at the moment.

mortoma
03-22-2004, 06:43 PM
I wasn't really complaining or whining for it, just always wodered why it hadn't been done. Plus I know that time is running out if anybody was even remotely interested in doing it. The cockpit stuff makes sense though. Strange that none have apparently survived the war.

horseback
03-22-2004, 07:39 PM
The biggest reason they haven't modelled the cockpit is that they can hardly imagine anyone wanting to be seen in a plane that ugly. Not even that way-cool French Camoflauge can hide it.

The second biggest reason is that French WWII a/c cockpits were usually painted a dark blue throughout, which I imagine makes it a b!tch to accurately model and still have the user be able to see anything. It would introduce a whole new breed, the French 'pitWhiner, and no one will tolerate that until the FW's forward view is fixed.

cheers

horseback

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chris455
03-22-2004, 08:51 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Must agree with you totally except this is not just Easter Front sim anymore. Sorry. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"Easter" Front? They lobbing colored hard boiled eggs at each other?
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F19_Orheim
03-23-2004, 09:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by horseback:
The biggest reason they haven't modelled the cockpit is that they can hardly imagine anyone wanting to be seen in a plane that ugly. Not even that way-cool French Camoflauge can hide it.

The second biggest reason is that French WWII a/c cockpits were usually painted a dark blue throughout, which I imagine makes it a b!tch to accurately model and still have the user be able to see anything. It would introduce a whole new breed, the French 'pitWhiner, and no one will tolerate that until the FW's forward view is fixed.

cheers

horseback
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horseback... I disagree... one just have to LOVE ugly planes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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horseback
03-23-2004, 12:01 PM
So Orheim, do you drive a pre-1970s Saab, or a Citroen? Those cars pretty much conform to the Morane's standard of beauty, although they were built to a much higher performance standard relative to their class...

Of course, MY taste in pets runs to ugly dogs, so I probably shouldn't talk. Which reminds me, I need to get a new chain leash for Chewbacca, my Standard Poodle / Lab Retriever mix. He's chewed up three leather ones.

cheers

horseback

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Curly_109
03-23-2004, 12:19 PM
horseback, i dont wanna to be rude, but not ALL people have your sense of beauty... lot of people for instance find g.50 very ugly, but i don't and intend to fly it a lot as soon as i lay hands on aces... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

morane is for sure not the ugliest A/C in the sim... what's with He-111Zw? or Bf109Z? TB3? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

and who is talking about ugliness of A/C's in this sim.... that would be a tottaly missed topic---like one for reality in game---(cause i know a lot of people who think all ww2 A/C's are ugly). But we do not http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

still i'm agreed with your statement of uglyness of saab and citroen cars http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif (pre'70s)

cheerz

F19_Orheim
03-23-2004, 03:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by horseback:
So Orheim, do you drive a pre-1970s Saab, or a Citroen?
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horseback, no I don't but I gotta admit - I love 'em http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif "Ugly" cars have character.

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horseback
03-23-2004, 03:10 PM
Curly-

We have a word in English for a joking exchange: Banter. As I acknowledged in my crack about ugly planes, it is strictly a matter of taste. It follows, therefore, that another person's choices are just that: Another person's choices, which have no effect on me (except for possibly triggering my gag reflex).

As long as Orheim doesn't try to force me at gunpoint into the cockpit of a Morane, it's simply an exchange of ideas and impressions. His affinity for certain aircraft appears to have a historical basis, while my opinion is probably based on my personal aesthetic sensibilities, and my understanding of the aircraft in question's performance outside of Finland's service.

The Finns got outstanding results from almost everything they flew, so from a statistical standard, where you throw out the high and low numbers to reach a median value, their results should be admired and respected, but never expected from the average Air Force. It's like taking Basketweaving 101 with a bunch of Navajo (a Native American people known for their fine handicraft, particularly silverworking and basketweaving), and expecting to get a high grade.

cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944