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JirkaF
07-19-2004, 12:20 AM
I have some questions.
1. Why AI pilots are shooting to planes evidently firing ? Always they are stealing my shoots.
2. Situation: I want change course of flight. But I want that the second para would continue to next waypoint. Order with the second para selection and go next waypoint is not working.

JirkaF
07-19-2004, 12:20 AM
I have some questions.
1. Why AI pilots are shooting to planes evidently firing ? Always they are stealing my shoots.
2. Situation: I want change course of flight. But I want that the second para would continue to next waypoint. Order with the second para selection and go next waypoint is not working.

Zayets
07-19-2004, 12:47 AM
1.Known issue.I have heard that AI will be better in future patches.Besides,is not only the AI that is stealing kills.Online is a common practice.
2.OOTB,comms sucks.Do your missions in FNB if you want specific tasks for a group of planes.

Edit: is FMB(full mission builder) not FNB,obviously.

Zayets out

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WTE_Galway
07-19-2004, 01:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zayets:
1.Known issue.I have heard that AI will be better in future patches.Besides,is not only the AI that is stealing kills.Online is a common practice.
2.OOTB,comms sucks.Do your missions in FNB if you want specific tasks for a group of planes.

Edit: is FMB(full mission builder) not FNB,obviously.

Zayets out

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I am always amused by the way one AI fighter locks on to a bogie and the rest of the flight maintain formation in line astern just behind him so you have this railroad train of planes flipping around the battlefield

Zayets
07-19-2004, 01:16 AM
You know,this is sometimes pretty much cool.And I'll explain you why.Yesterday did a run in a IAR against some ratas and yaks. we were 4 , they were 8.So,here's this Yak, #3 I guess and his wingman in the "train" you mention , locked on my six.I was jinking,rolling,diving(IAR is a very maneuvrable fellow if you know its weak points),and this guy emptied his guns in an attempt to shoot me down.He ran outta ammo and he breaks off,then , his mate started his run. Was pretty cool.I did escaped because I was playing on Crimea map.Take those guys donwn there in the mountains and you'll see black pole smokes of your pursuers.

Zayets out

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JirkaF
07-19-2004, 03:01 AM
I must correct my initial question. Missions are generated by original DGEN. And I want to order the second zveno/schwarm. The first zveno is flying with me and the second continue to the next waypoint. This situation is impossible to create because after order - selection 2nd zveno/schwarm - next waypoint - all planes are continuing with me.

Zayets
07-19-2004, 03:11 AM
You can't!
The whole armada you're part of it is divided in flights,or zveno's for the Russians. A flight can have in IL2 up to 4 planes,but I've seen very often only 2 planes in a flight.Say that you are #1,#5,#9 in your flight, then you can order YOUR flight what to do,and if you are #1 I believe you can order other to attack a certain target.That I could reproduce.But I highly doubt that you can send the other zveno's to a certain waypoint,let it be next or previous.
Why I'm saying about FMB,because there you can play with the waypoints as you want.
And don't take 100% bulletproof what for comms options you have for the AI.Most of them DON'T WORK as you may expect.Covering your 6 , attacking specific targets are prone to strange AI behavior.Not to mention crashing into the landscape.

Zayets out

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JirkaF
07-19-2004, 03:33 AM
Well. It is really crazy. AI answer me YES and it is doing absolutely something different. With this AI IL-2 looks much more like arcade game than simulation. I wrote something about AI in some topics. Maybe anybody from Oleg's boys will read it.

Zayets
07-19-2004, 03:39 AM
No,no.
I can't say IL2 is an arcade game.If you say that,what can you say about CFS3 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Or for the same reason about Secret weapons http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I don't think it's an arcade game.To prove it so, head online in some coop servers or scripted ones. You'll feel the difference.It's a sim,the best you can get today.I wish they didn't droped the Janes WW2 line, so we can compare todays which one is best .

Zayets out

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JirkaF
07-20-2004, 12:22 AM
I am interested in IL-2 very long time. I started on IL-2 then I moved to IL-2 FB.I am flying every day for about 2-3 hours. So for me was intresting to compare CF3 to IL-2. In my opinion IL-2 is much better overall. But it can be better. I must say that with small improvements in AI there is possibility to be super sim. Will see.