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Cokol_88IAP
04-29-2004, 05:40 AM
Hi all,
according to my data, Bf-109 F-2 was used till 9/42.

My question_ was it possible to change from Mg-151/15 to MG-151/20 ?

15mm was not very liked by pilots, did they change it?

Has anyone a hint that it was done?

Cokol_88IAP
04-29-2004, 05:40 AM
Hi all,
according to my data, Bf-109 F-2 was used till 9/42.

My question_ was it possible to change from Mg-151/15 to MG-151/20 ?

15mm was not very liked by pilots, did they change it?

Has anyone a hint that it was done?

Arm_slinger
04-29-2004, 06:19 AM
Putting it all together, i think thats why the F4 came out

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butch2k
04-29-2004, 07:59 AM
Yes it was a simple matter to change it, just change the MG151 barrel, adjust a few things and change the rings holding the MG151 cannon within the blast tube.
Yes there are known instances of F-2 found with 20mm ammo, so it seems that they were indeed retrofitted as soon as the ammo was available.

As a side note, the F-4 is not described by Mtt as an F-2 with a DB601E and an MG151/20 but just as an F-2 with a DB601E. The MG151 or MG151/20 could be fitted as necessary in both aircraft.

krause
04-29-2004, 08:14 AM
Sorry short on time

On October 10. 1941 Herman Graf gets his 20mm cannon for his BF109 F2. No time to check wether he gets the cannon at this day or start his first combatsortie with this armament

Cokol_88IAP
04-29-2004, 09:09 AM
So wee need a Bf-109 F-2'1942.

jagdmailer
04-29-2004, 09:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cokol_88IAP:
So wee need a Bf-109 F-2'1942.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Possibly....

That would make an alternative to the DB601E F-4. Could be in the sim as:

"BF 109F-2 1942 "Field-mod" w/ MG151/20 cannon"

or there could be an option in the current F-2 loadout for the following:

"MG151/20 Field-mod motor kanone"

Not saying it should be done in this particular case, but it can be done.

JagdMailer

Gunner_361st
04-29-2004, 09:41 AM
As much as I like the Me-109, I'd much rather see new features included in FB and PF than more little field modifications of the same airplanes we already have. Like dynamic weather, smarter AI, and an idea for bombers, which I will post later.

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Bewolf
04-29-2004, 11:11 AM
Though this simple field mod could very easy and fast be done, unlike dynmaic weather and smarter AI.

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JG53Frankyboy
04-29-2004, 11:30 AM
but IF, pls as a new plane like "Bf109F-2 FieldMod"!
not only an armament option. because then we would never see a F2 with MG151/15 in online http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Cokol_88IAP
04-30-2004, 01:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
but IF, pls as a new plane like "Bf109F-2 FieldMod"!
not only an armament option. because then we would never see a F2 with MG151/15 in online http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And dont forget the Loadout, 109F was not the greatest fighterbomber, but it was used.

LEXX_Luthor
04-30-2004, 03:07 AM
LOL

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>then we would never see a F2 with MG151/15 in onwhine<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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