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DnnC
04-22-2004, 08:57 PM
I recently started to use prop pitch with the 109. I am finding it very hard to use when in combat. Does anyone actually use it in combat or do you switch to auto when you engage? Also in combat with prop pitch do you use extended view of cockpit?

DnnC
04-22-2004, 08:57 PM
I recently started to use prop pitch with the 109. I am finding it very hard to use when in combat. Does anyone actually use it in combat or do you switch to auto when you engage? Also in combat with prop pitch do you use extended view of cockpit?

MackZ
04-22-2004, 09:19 PM
I can guarantee you that you won't last for more than five seconds if you just switch it immediately to manual at 100%. It is a very difficult skill to master (which I have yet to do myself), but the rewards in combat have saved my life a few times in combat. I usually just fly auto in the 109 anyway, except when I'm in a jam. I'm sorry that doesn't fully answer your question but perhaps it will help a little. Good luck!

Shifty101
04-22-2004, 09:25 PM
Try bringing your prop pitch down before you switch to manual either through prop pitch control or throttle. I use the Saitek X-45 and I use the thumb rotator as my prop pitch and it works very well. I have found that using manual pitch can improve every aspect of the 109 by quite a bit. At first I used an extended view to keep the RPM's at 3000, which is what I found works best without overheating. After a period of time you can actually prevent over reving the engine by sound as you can hear it reach 3000 RPM's and bring the pitch down. I keep my throttle at 95% and use the pitch to control RPM's. Hope this helps at least a little.

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Slammin_
04-22-2004, 10:07 PM
The only way to be effective in the 109 is with manual prop pitch. Once you go manual, you can rev the prop up to allow you to loop and turn n burn with anything, avoid stalls etc. With auto, your options are pretty much limited to total energy control, and with auto prop, you do not have much energy control, so your best option is B&Z.

If your HOTAS allows, assign prop pitch to a wheel slider, or else assign it to an easily reachable up/down button. I'd hate the thought of having to fly a 109 on auto prop. It really is THAT limited in auto.

TX-EcoDragon
04-23-2004, 12:00 AM
I just use auto. . call me old fashioned.

Of course I might not be very "effective"! ;-)

It would be nice if it had a constant speed prop though, or simply a setting to select the RPM that auto uses.

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F19_Ob
04-23-2004, 10:31 AM
Thanx guys I love to work against proppitchers online.
Its always the ones acting strange climbing like crasy. Its like shooting "Guysengagedwith otherthingsthancombattactics".

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crazyivan1970
04-23-2004, 10:34 AM
I`m with Eco on this one. Manual prop pitch is not that important.

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bodaw
04-23-2004, 11:10 AM
The hype is not that much. Climbing with manual prop. pitch will give you about 3 meters/second more than auto. In a furball it's quite useless as you'd only get about 10 seconds or less worth of zoom time, after the boom, before someone pulls up behind you. That's only about 30 meters more than usual climb with auto.

The advantage however lies in the acceleration. You'd accelerate faster with manual than auto. And the other advantage is you could turn & burn with manual pitch. But if you were in a situation where you'd have to turn & burn in a 109, you probably have screwed up somewhere already. Just my 0.02 cents.

Shifty101
04-23-2004, 02:37 PM
The advantages gained by using manual pitch might not be that great but to me it doesnt matter. It only adds to the immersion of the game, realistic or not, I feel because you have more to think about and it makes your kills that much more rewarding. Thats what this game is all about, having fun!

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