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pacmanate
10-09-2014, 07:26 PM
Just thought I'd leave this here, it's new to me cause I don't follow Initiates, so if you know this already then sorry. Seems like Shaun and Rebecca are the ones who are recruiting us in AC Unity, it also mentions that after AC4, William Joins the Assassin's again.

"When John was killed by Abstergo, Shaun and Rebecca contacted the researcher, apologizing for getting them into trouble and promising to make up for it.[8] (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_Hastings#cite_note-AC4-7) Using the information recovered by the analyst, Shaun and Rebecca helped William move on from Desmond's death and rejoin the Order.[7] (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_Hastings#cite_note-ACI_S-6)

Discovering the Initiates

"With you on our side, we can hope to rebuild the Brotherhood. Otherwise, the Assassins will die, along with our ideals. The Templars will win, and the world will lose."―Shaun offering the Initiates to join the Assassins.[src] (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin's_Creed:_Initiates)

By mid-2014, Shaun and Rebecca had reunited with William in a bunker in Norway (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Norway), and then with the crew of the Altair II. Gavin was angry William had not contacted him since his return, but they soon had more important matters to attend to when Rebecca discovered the ship was bugged. While William interrogated each of Gavin's crewmates to determine who was the spy, Shaun and Rebecca worked to ascertain where the spy's reports were being sent to.[7] (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_Hastings#cite_note-ACI_S-6)

Eventually, William decided who the spy was and declared in accordance with the Creed (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/The_Creed), he was going to have them executed. Shaun protested, preparing to cite moments of leniency from the Order's history, but William responded he be silent, and ordered Galina Voronina (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Galina_Voronina) to kill Dr. Stephanie Chiu (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Stephanie_Chiu), prompting protests from Eric Cooper (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Eric_Cooper), who claimed to be the spy.[7] (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_Hastings#cite_note-ACI_S-6)

Shaun expressed surprise that a Scot could be the spy, prompting Chiu to explain she uploaded Cooper's reports to the Initiates (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Initiates). Satisfied with the truth, William and Gavin explained it had been a ruse to flush them out, to which Shaun had William confirm that none of them would be dying that day.[7] (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_Hastings#cite_note-ACI_S-6)
Afterwards, while Cooper and Chiu were explaining to the Assassins their goals and organization, Shaun protested against the Initiates' neutral stance, arguing they could have helped if they were observing what the Assassins had endured. Subsequently, William appointed Shaun and Rebecca with the task of recruiting the Initiates.[7] (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_Hastings#cite_note-ACI_S-6)"
Yes I copy pasted :p Seems like WIlliam is still pretty damage to just execute someone in this day and age.

Source: http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_Hastings

Sushiglutton
10-09-2014, 07:30 PM
Shaun protested, preparing to cite moments of leniency from the Order's history, but William responded he be silent, and ordered Galina Voronina (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Galina_Voronina) to kill Dr. Stephanie Chiu (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Stephanie_Chiu), prompting protests from Eric Cooper (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Eric_Cooper), who claimed to be the spy.[7] (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun_Hastings#cite_note-ACI_S-6)


Lol I am so lost when it comes to MD, who are all these people?

I suppose >10 million gamers could help the assassin cause.

pacmanate
10-09-2014, 07:32 PM
I have no idea and if I'm honest, don't care to read up about them haha

Sushiglutton
10-09-2014, 07:35 PM
Sounds like the characters of a Bond movie: Hot female russian agent, evil Asian scientist (Bond sleeps with both of them) and some solid bloke form CIA.

m4r-k7
10-09-2014, 07:37 PM
I've given up on modern day, its too confusing and complicated!

Alphacos007
10-09-2014, 08:15 PM
Those are characters who were introduced at the Initiates MD history, if you didn't follow it, you won't know them at all. Anyways, I hadnt thinked about this before, and your theory seems pretty plausible. I am looking forward to meet such characters "in person" (if we actually end up having a decent MD - HAHA fat chance...)

EmbodyingSeven5
10-09-2014, 08:35 PM
Those are characters who were introduced at the Initiates MD history, if you didn't follow it, you won't know them at all. Anyways, I hadnt thinked about this before, and your theory seems pretty plausible. I am looking forward to meet such characters "in person" (if we actually end up having a decent MD - HAHA fat chance...)

dats dumb...... lol I hope they don't expect me to know who they are in game

SixKeys
10-09-2014, 08:39 PM
I refuse to keep up with modern day characters or events that aren't explained in the games. If they are referenced but not sufficiently explained in-game, that's poor storytelling.

pacmanate
10-09-2014, 08:48 PM
I refuse to keep up with modern day characters or events that aren't explained in the games. If they are referenced but not sufficiently explained in-game, that's poor storytelling.

Agree, screw those guys. But I was trying to focus more on the guys we know

GunnerGalactico
10-09-2014, 08:51 PM
Hmmm... That makes sense.

I don't really keep up with the latest MD information in Initiates, last time I read about Shaun and Rebecca's adventures was about 4 months ago. I do know that William was not keeping in touch with the rest of the Assassins after Desmond's death and Gavin is a long time friend of his. Thanks for posting this, it sort of fills in the blanks... for me atleast.

Xstantin
10-09-2014, 08:55 PM
I hope there won't be another Daniel Cross situation for Rogue/Unity.

cawatrooper9
10-09-2014, 09:12 PM
Lol I am so lost when it comes to MD, who are all these people?

I suppose >10 million gamers could help the assassin cause.

Exactly. This is why AC Initiates needs to stop. Just put the plot in the games, please.

Alphacos007
10-09-2014, 09:41 PM
Exactly. This is why AC Initiates needs to stop. Just put the plot in the games, please.

If you're going to think like that, the books should stop too, and so should the HQs.
I just think the storylines must be kept separately, and if they ever get to merge (like Daniel Cross in AC3), there should be proper in-game explanation about the whole background.

SixKeys
10-10-2014, 01:46 AM
If you're going to think like that, the books should stop too, and so should the HQs.

Yes, the books should stop too. They've always been crap anyway.

Don't know what you mean with HQ.

RA503
10-10-2014, 02:02 AM
If you're going to think like that, the books should stop too, and so should the HQs.
I just think the storylines must be kept separately, and if they ever get to merge (like Daniel Cross in AC3), there should be proper in-game explanation about the whole background

I only helping, the term ''HQ'' historia em quadrinhos (comic book)only exist in brazil, the correct in a forum of english language like this is saying comic book.

Thirsty_panda
10-10-2014, 04:20 AM
I refuse to keep up with modern day characters or events that aren't explained in the games. If they are referenced but not sufficiently explained in-game, that's poor storytelling.


They're not giving us a coherent modern day story at this point though. AC is an expanded universe now. In Ubisoft's eyes, what they view as important is all subjective now. They'll probably aim for the games all making sense within themselves, and treat initiates and like projects as enhancing detail. In which case, the referenced material probably wouldn't be very relevant to begin with, in comparison to what the game is trying to sell you on. Now whether that's poor story telling per say, eh, I think that's iffy. Less impact full though, sure.

pacmanate
10-10-2014, 10:33 AM
If you're going to think like that, the books should stop too, and so should the HQs.
I just think the storylines must be kept separately, and if they ever get to merge (like Daniel Cross in AC3), there should be proper in-game explanation about the whole background.

But the difference with the books is they expand on characters/things you already know.

Initiates is just throwing lots of new things/characters there which is what I don't like.

Alphacos007
10-10-2014, 10:42 AM
Yes, the books should stop too. They've always been crap anyway.

Don't know what you mean with HQ.

Sorry, I've seen a few english-speaker friends say HQ and I tought this was a worldwide therm. I meant the comic books, like The Fall or Brahman.

Hans684
10-10-2014, 04:04 PM
Initiates is just throwing lots of new things/characters there which is what I don't like.

I'm guessing your not buying Unity then.

pacmanate
10-10-2014, 06:52 PM
I'm guessing your not buying Unity then.

That is such a stupid comment, congratulations.

MnemonicSyntax
10-10-2014, 07:01 PM
If you're going to think like that, the books should stop too, and so should the HQs.
I just think the storylines must be kept separately, and if they ever get to merge (like Daniel Cross in AC3), there should be proper in-game explanation about the whole background.

We did get some background info on Daniel Cross from Rebecca after meeting Daniel for the first time in 3.

Hans684
10-10-2014, 09:15 PM
That is such a stupid comment, congratulations.

Thank you.

Just used your own words against you. And I expected such a response, new historical stuff always gets a pass unlike new MD stuff.

pacmanate
10-10-2014, 09:26 PM
Thank you.

Just used your own words against you. And I expected such a response, new historical stuff always gets a pass unlike new MD stuff.

Your context is off.

Hans684
10-10-2014, 09:33 PM
Your context is off.

I'm kinda of today myself so let's just leave this case before something happens.

Locopells
10-11-2014, 12:26 AM
That...would be an idea...