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king-hailz
08-30-2014, 02:35 PM
Sorry bit Kiwi_Shane got me in the mood to make one, I have actually heard some people's opinions but I would like to see what all of you think will happen?

If you have an idea for something else, write it down below!

Edit: that was supposed to be templar* not template. Lol this is what happens when you use a phone...

I just think Arno will be told to kill Elise, and he realises it's for a bigger cause or something and kills her. :(

SpiritOfNevaeh
08-30-2014, 03:04 PM
They both might die. Like a Romeo and Juliet story :rolleyes:

Would be nice if Elise comes to the Assassin side.

Your option says "template"... lolzz..

CoachAssassin
08-30-2014, 03:11 PM
I'm expecting either Arno to kill Elise, or at the end of Unity both decide to say **** you all and abandon templars AND assassins, I hope the last one because Elise should never die.

But yeah, I doubt we are going to see such a shock, favorable side characters always seem to die at one point in an AC game.

m4r-k7
08-30-2014, 03:19 PM
Arno will not kill elise.
They have said Arno does not believe in the creed as a religion and is prepared to do what he wants. Also they are trying to pull of a love story, I don't think Arno will kill her, he will probably say no to killing her and will have to save her from either the guillotine or from another assassin killing her.

Layytez
08-30-2014, 03:22 PM
What do I think ? I think they will Unite.

CoachAssassin
08-30-2014, 03:23 PM
Arno will not kill elise.
They have said Arno does not believe in the creed as a religion and is prepared to do what he wants. Also they are trying to pull of a love story, I don't think Arno will kill her, he will probably say no to killing her and will have to save her from either the guillotine or from another assassin killing her.

Nor does the creed say to kill Templars. I somehow still believe they will drop a bomb containing the death of either, and since basically every assassin HAS to survive for gameplays sake, it's going to be the same here.

m4r-k7
08-30-2014, 03:27 PM
If Elise dies the Internet will collapse with "ubisoft killing your female characters.. How dare u bla bla bla" lol
If Arno dies they would just rewind time to let us free roam as him. He seems like a cool character so I don't want him to die (I havnt seem much of him but I liked his sarcasm and expression on his voice in the gamescom demo)

I reckon Elise will die but it won't be Arno who kills her


What do I think ? I think they will Unite.

They will unite in the game for sure. But it might not end with them uniting aswell.

Layytez
08-30-2014, 03:33 PM
They will unite in the game for sure. But it might not end with them uniting aswell.
She may die but I don't see her being killed by him directly. It may be an indirect warning to Arno if she is killed off by either Assassins because she sides with Arno, or Templars/Corrupted Templars because she sides with Arno. Only time will tell..

JustPlainQuirky
08-30-2014, 03:35 PM
At least one, if not both will die. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

rprkjj
08-30-2014, 03:42 PM
I think Arno will kill Elise, for the sake of a sequel. She might also join.

killzab
08-30-2014, 03:52 PM
Arno cannot die in the game ... because of the Animus ... Seriously how can you guys not remember this ?!

JustPlainQuirky
08-30-2014, 03:56 PM
there are ways around that.

Shahkulu101
08-30-2014, 04:01 PM
They both unite against the Assassin's and Templars because both are revealed to be corrupt.

EmptyCrustacean
08-30-2014, 04:01 PM
If Ubisoft are smart, he'll kill her.

JustPlainQuirky
08-30-2014, 04:02 PM
I could see them fighting side by side til both are killed.

Or one being killed while the other is like "nuuuuu"

Hollywood style. :/

GunnerGalactico
08-30-2014, 04:08 PM
They both unite against the Assassin's and Templars because both are revealed to be corrupt.

^ This. After that, they go their own seperate ways after everything is over.

Shahkulu101
08-30-2014, 04:11 PM
^ This. After that, they go their own seperate ways after everything is over.

Noooo!

They live happily ever after, and Elise becomes pregnant.

Then through Elise's eyes we see Arno getting assassinated. By Connor.

JustPlainQuirky
08-30-2014, 04:13 PM
Noooo!

They live happily ever after, and Elise becomes pregnant.

Then through Elise's eyes we see Arno getting assassinated. By Connor.

Thats super chees-

Oh.

SHADOWGARVIN
08-30-2014, 04:20 PM
None of the above. If she dies, she will most likely be killed by the person pulling the strings.

I-Like-Pie45
08-30-2014, 04:31 PM
They mate and commit suicide together.

RinoTheBouncer
08-30-2014, 04:33 PM
I don’t know, but I just hope it’s not another cliche we’ve seen a trillion times in movies, games and all other forms of art. And I also hope it’s not one of those sad endings that are made sad just to seem “cool” and “deep”.

SlyTrooper
08-30-2014, 04:52 PM
Arno should join the Templars. He was raised by a Templar & is in love with a Templar. Why would Elise join the Assassins?

Also, Arno won't die. It was asked in an interview whether Arno will get a sequel, & he said that they might. How could he get a sequel if he was dead?

Xstantin
08-30-2014, 05:02 PM
I hope a sequel happens :) I know it's too early but still.

I-Like-Pie45
08-30-2014, 05:09 PM
I will forever use this series as part of my litter box forever if Arno gets a sequel

Xstantin
08-30-2014, 05:11 PM
I will forever use this series as part of my litter box forever if Arno gets a sequel

Then again, by the time the sequel is out you'll get a new personality. No problem there.

jayjay275
08-30-2014, 05:13 PM
They get married and consummate their marriage with sex. Baby Arno is born.

Fatal-Feit
08-30-2014, 05:39 PM
they mate and commit suicide together.

lolol

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Arno won't kill Elise. He will spare her and move on for the next sequel against Napoleon.

m4r-k7
08-30-2014, 05:42 PM
I would think Arno would get a sequel as it's the first next gen game so I am guessing they would continue his story. We are actually making him a master assassin so the next game we will play him as the master assassin we made in unity.

CoachAssassin
08-30-2014, 06:06 PM
I'd laugh if Arno gets poor receivings and still gets a sequel while Connor gets none.

Hans684
08-30-2014, 06:07 PM
They won't kill each other, if they would they wouldn't keep their work hidden from their orders. They love each other, they'd do what is needed for each other, they've know each other since childhood. Their connection is to strong. Elise is trying to find the killer of her father, the former GM until her own order killed him. Arno is after redemption, so their basically looking for the same guy but from different perspectives. One that is done, then what? Continue their forbidden love or try to unite the orders? It's far to much possibilities(or from Arno's perspective, pussybilities(I've been on 9gang far to long)) , need to know more for a better conclusions. For now their both in a position were they can choose each other and walk away(still being hunted by both orders(ain't easy to leave either order))

CoachAssassin
08-30-2014, 06:11 PM
They won't kill each other, if they would they wouldn't keep their work hidden from their orders. They love each other, they'd do what is needed for each other, they've know each other since childhood. Their connection is to strong. Elise is trying to find the killer of her father, the former GM until her own order killed him. Arno is after redemption, so their basically looking for the same guy but from different perspectives. One that is done, then what? Continue their forbidden love or try to unite the orders? It's far to much possibilities(or from Arno's perspective, pussybilities(I've been on 9gang far to long)) , need to know more for a better conclusions. For now their both in a position were they can choose each other and walk away(still being hunted by both orders(ain't easy to leave either order))

Such a dynamic would make a sequel extremely weird and pretty much confirms the storyline of the sequel though. If there will be an Arno sequel, Elise dies.

Hans684
08-30-2014, 06:21 PM
Such a dynamic would make a sequel extremely weird and pretty much confirms the storyline of the sequel though. If there will be an Arno sequel, Elise dies.

She doesn't need to die for the sequel, we know we will meat Napoleon in Unity. He also has an AOE(his reason for rising higher up in military rank), from what I understand he is not a Templar but another Washington but unlike Washington he will let the Apple corrupt him and chooses to become king of France. The Templars that are left and is true like Elise might join the Assassins to deal with Napoleon, and in the prosses allow them to be together officially.

CoachAssassin
08-30-2014, 06:27 PM
She doesn't need to die for the sequel, we know we will meat Napoleon in Unity. He also has an AOE(his reason for rising higher up in military rank), from what I understand he is not a Templar but another Washington but unlike Washington he will let the Apple corrupt him and chooses to become king of France. The Templars that are left and is true like Elise might join the Assassins to deal with Napoleon, and in the prosses allow them to be together officially.

But them successfully working together on taking down one of Europes most important historical rulers would be a known fact for MD Assassins and Templars wouldn't it? Then why does William Miles imply that it has been ''tried'' but failed rather soon iirc.

Btw, I hope Elise survives haha, don't get me wrong on that.

m4r-k7
08-30-2014, 06:31 PM
Remember Arno and elise might try to unite the two factions. They will fail. Just because they fail doesn't mean they will die. They might take matters into their own hands.

Hans684
08-30-2014, 06:35 PM
But them successfully working together on taking down one of Europes most important historical rulers would be a known fact for MD Assassins and Templars wouldn't it? Then why does William Miles imply that it has been ''tried'' but failed rather soon iirc.

Btw, I hope Elise survives haha, don't get me wrong on that.

That's arguable, they didn't know Haytham until reliving his memories. And both orders try to ease as much of their influence as much as possible and alter historical "facts" during the time it happens and in MD like the Templars supposed "end" but they actually went underground.

Me to, might be only Templar able to surpass Haytham.

CoachAssassin
08-30-2014, 06:38 PM
To be fair, I have no clue in MD if Templars have the upper hand or if Assasins are actually regaining that position.

Layytez
08-30-2014, 06:53 PM
To be fair, I have no clue in MD if Templars have the upper hand or if Assasins are actually regaining that position.
Templars still have the upper hand. The Assassins are about to make their move baked by Initiates.

SlyTrooper
08-30-2014, 08:37 PM
They won't kill each other, if they would they wouldn't keep their work hidden from their orders. They love each other, they'd do what is needed for each other, they've know each other since childhood. Their connection is to strong. Elise is trying to find the killer of her father, the former GM until her own order killed him. Arno is after redemption, so their basically looking for the same guy but from different perspectives. One that is done, then what? Continue their forbidden love or try to unite the orders? It's far to much possibilities(or from Arno's perspective, pussybilities(I've been on 9gang far to long)) , need to know more for a better conclusions. For now their both in a position were they can choose each other and walk away(still being hunted by both orders(ain't easy to leave either order))

If Arno gets a sequel, I really want him to join Elise in the Templars. She could become Grand Master at the end of the game, with Arno being second in command. Arno could join the Templars after finding out the killer of his adoptive father (maybe the Templar who killed him worked with the Assassins?) & then wipe out all the Assassins on the council towards the end of the game. I think this would be more interesting & less generic. If they do this, I will also like the idea of a sequel more because we get to play as Arno as a Templar. He could assassinate all the targets who are standing in the way of the Templars' goals, so the gameplay wouldn't be any different.

Hans684
08-30-2014, 09:33 PM
If Arno gets a sequel, I really want him to join Elise in the Templars. She could become Grand Master at the end of the game, with Arno being second in command. Arno could join the Templars after finding out the killer of his adoptive father (maybe the Templar who killed him worked with the Assassins?) & then wipe out all the Assassins on the council towards the end of the game. I think this would be more interesting & less generic. If they do this, I will also like the idea of a sequel more because we get to play as Arno as a Templar. He could assassinate all the targets who are standing in the way of the Templars' goals, so the gameplay wouldn't be any different.

Best idea so far. Elise as the new GM makes sense and she would be a better one than her order during the FR. They corrupt her order a after killing her father. Arno can't beat Elise in a sword fight so he going to be the "lady" in their relationship, second in command fits perfectly. He could, he likes Shay questions the creed and their methods, it's a possibility. I don't think the Templar killing Elise's father has Assassin connections. Wiping out the council and Napoleon would be great, as said you said it's not the most generic choice. I'd love that.

SlyTrooper
08-30-2014, 09:41 PM
Best idea so far. Elise as the new GM makes sense and she would be a better one than her order during the FR. They corrupt her order a after killing her father. Arno can't beat Elise in a sword fight so he going to be the "lady" in their relationship, second in command fits perfectly. He could, he likes Shay questions the creed and their methods, it's a possibility. I don't think the Templar killing Elise's father has Assassin connections. Wiping out the council and Napoleon would be great, as said you said it's not the most generic choice. I'd love that.

It probably won't happen. The casuals don't like the Templars, so one Templar protagonists is probably all we're going to get. :(

If I was a Ubi developer, I would send out an email to all the casuals with this image:
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/you-filthy-casual-meme.jpg

Fatal-Feit
08-30-2014, 09:44 PM
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/you-filthy-casual-meme.jpg
The story of my life.

Assassin_M
08-30-2014, 09:44 PM
Elise kills Arno as they're having intercourse.

Hans684
08-30-2014, 09:47 PM
It probably won't happen. The casuals don't like the Templars, so one Templar protagonists is probably all we're going to get. :(

If I was a Ubi developer, I would send out an email to all the casuals with this image:
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/you-filthy-casual-meme.jpg

Lol.

True but I'm not pro-Templar/Assassin, it all depends on era, aim, actions and consequences. I'd make the games as risky and controversial as possible with fair treatment of both orders giving balanced grayness with no good guy. Good guys just destroy any grayness because one side would end up good, if I want typical hero tale I'll play Batman.

wvstolzing
08-30-2014, 09:49 PM
Whatever happens, I hope there's no in-game sex scene. The obligatory soft-porn in popular media really gets on my nerves; because its only purpose is to squeeze out a few more sales (for which internet notoriety among teenage boys certainly helps).

purplekurple
08-30-2014, 09:52 PM
I wish it wasn't a love story.

Namikaze_17
08-30-2014, 10:20 PM
Whatever happens, I hope there's no in-game sex scene. The obligatory soft-porn in popular media really gets on my nerves; because its only purpose is to squeeze out a few more sales (for which internet notoriety among teenage boys certainly helps).
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28300000/minato-crying-naruto-shippuuden-28328308-600-483.png
:rolleyes:

LoyalACFan
08-31-2014, 12:47 AM
Wishful thinking says they both live, and there's no way in hell Arno becomes a Templar, so I voted Option 1. Though it's probably more likely that he'll kill her. I just hope he doesn't.

Namikaze_17
08-31-2014, 01:00 AM
Either Arno dies leaving a pregnant Elise alone to get with someone else...
#desmondtiein
#connorgetsrebound :rolleyes:

Or maybe Arno/ someone kills Elise, thus leaving Arno in a wake of despair for his POTENTIAL sequel against Napoleon and such.

Or maybe both die UNITED against whatever odds to send a message to MD Assassins and Templars.

LoyalACFan
08-31-2014, 01:49 AM
if I want typical hero tale I'll play Batman.

Bad choice of words, there's actually a pretty good argument for Batman being the bad guy... especially when he's fighting Ra's al Ghul

Hans684
08-31-2014, 10:12 AM
Bad choice of words, there's actually a pretty good argument for Batman being the bad guy... especially when he's fighting Ra's al Ghul

Last time I called Batman a bad guy people went nuts.

Layytez
08-31-2014, 10:43 AM
Last time I called Batman a bad guy people went nuts.
Still don't get how he is considered a Hero to be honest.

RinoTheBouncer
08-31-2014, 10:57 AM
I want some sort of unity in this case. I want them to make it possible for a Templar and an Assassin to co-exist and even have a fruitful love story, together. I know it sounds a lot like a fairytale but I’d wish to see it anyway, even though I think that Elise killing Arno in the end could make an epic ending.


Elise kills Arno as they're having intercourse.

The sequence should be called “Kiss of the Spider Woman” or “The Black Widow"

locketcoket
09-01-2014, 05:42 AM
Bad choice of words, there's actually a pretty good argument for Batman being the bad guy... especially when he's fighting Ra's al Ghul

Any chance you could pm me some of the reason?


Anyway I hope that at a climax seen were Elise up is still a Templar, has more Assassin like views and vice-versa with Arno. Arno and Elise go to assassinate Napoleon. Only for it to be reveled both Assassins and Templars support him and are thus protecting him. After a failed assassination the Templars and Assassin fight them. It gets down to the last Assassin and Napoleon.Napoleon kills Arno and runs away and the last assassin says Arno betrayed the order. Elise then shoots him and holds Arno in her arms they confess their love and have a tender moment in which Elise reveals she is pregnant. Then through a trick of the Animus we are back as Arno to collect info for the Assassins.

Then in the story DLC you play as Elise who has sworn vengeance on Napoleon. Elise has used her extensive money and resources to buy a frigate or a man o war and uses it to maroon Napoleon. (FYI Napoleon dyed after he was marooned on a island). Elise then goes on the island and hunts down Napoleon and his crew who have started to establish a base. The dlc ends with French ships coming to rescue Napoleon which Elise takes out before using Arno's hidden blade to painfully kill Napoleon.

jeordievera
09-01-2014, 07:53 AM
I think they will go their separate ways. Elise will stay with the Templars and Arno with Assassins, they will form some sort of truce but they will never truly unite.

Namikaze_17
09-01-2014, 08:16 AM
There is no Truce as There never can be Unity between the Two.

One or Both will Die...


I am Convinced that will happen...it'd be a fairy-tale if it doesn't.

UniteUnderPower
09-01-2014, 08:45 AM
Either Arno kills Elise or Arno gets tasked with killing Elise and winds up becoming a templar due to the tasking.

Kaschra
09-01-2014, 12:07 PM
I have the feeling that Arno will kill Elise, or Elise at least dies - and dammit, I really really hope I'm wrong :/
That would be so predictable and boring.

RinoTheBouncer
09-01-2014, 12:44 PM
I have the feeling that Arno will kill Elise, or Elise at least dies - and dammit, I really really hope I'm wrong :/
That would be so predictable and boring.

Me too. I just hope they don’t become so cliché

UniteUnderPower
09-01-2014, 01:00 PM
What if both of them get tasked to kill the other and it leads to both of them killing the other in the name of love and to try and put an end to the war? But then we have to find out how the bloodline continues and how the child was born...

Legendz54
09-01-2014, 01:03 PM
They both realise it won't work and just go separate ways?

UniteUnderPower
09-01-2014, 01:05 PM
Or Arno leaves the assassins because he doesn't want to be a part of a war that is against his love :(

Gin0r
09-01-2014, 05:52 PM
I also hope that neither of them will die, because of the reasons already stated by other forum members, but I also don’t want a saccharine happy end for them for that wouldn’t be in the spirit of the series, yeah I’m hard to please.
I’ll be okay with one of them dying if it’s really well written, but it’ll be hard to pull it off without becoming cliché I’m afraid.

If Arno dies shortly after getting Elise pregnant and they pull a RDR or let you free roam after the end as Arno because Animus, well at least it will be some kind of twist to it all.

But I think that Elise will die, probably, and I also think that this would produce a PR disaster for Ubi.

purplekurple
09-01-2014, 10:38 PM
I hope they removed Elise from the game.

SlyTrooper
09-02-2014, 12:17 AM
I hope they removed Elise from the game.

You hope they removed the most essential part of the story?

Xstantin
09-02-2014, 12:22 AM
I hope they removed Elise from the game.

That's just cruel

Namikaze_17
09-02-2014, 12:42 AM
You hope they removed the most essential part of the story?

She also could be a nuisance/ hindrance in the story as well.

But I don't wanna cast bad luck, so I'll stop here.

I-Like-Pie45
09-02-2014, 12:44 AM
too late

Namikaze_17
09-02-2014, 12:51 AM
too late

http://gimmegimmegames.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bryannolnekf-e678f7d6-original.gif

Xstantin
09-02-2014, 12:53 AM
Watch her become the next Haytham XD

Namikaze_17
09-02-2014, 12:57 AM
Watch her become the next Haytham XD

Or a Mary Sue Damsel in Distress... :rolleyes:

Fatal-Feit
09-02-2014, 01:00 AM
As long as she doesn't get demoted to Princess Peach for the last half of the game.

Xstantin
09-02-2014, 01:03 AM
As long as she doesn't get demoted to Princess Peach for the last half of the game.

Elise the Peachy Templar.

Namikaze_17
09-02-2014, 01:09 AM
As long as she doesn't get demoted to Princess Peach for the last half of the game.

They will...I'm confident Ubi will **** this up like AC3's Ending. :rolleyes:

RA503
09-02-2014, 01:40 AM
I will be very disappointed if the two ending being connors/haytham with two lovers instead of father and son, but this is the option more probable.

SlyTrooper
09-02-2014, 04:56 PM
I will be very disappointed if the two ending being connors/haytham with two lovers instead of father and son, but this is the option more probable.

Say what?

Megas_Doux
09-04-2014, 01:49 AM
None of the options.......

Namikaze_17
09-04-2014, 01:58 AM
None of the options.......

What you do you personally think is gonna happen Mega? :p

Megas_Doux
09-04-2014, 02:00 AM
What you do you personally think is gonna happen Mega? :p

Elise will die, but not to Arno´s hands.

Namikaze_17
09-04-2014, 02:13 AM
Elise will die, but not to Arno´s hands.

Napoleon? :rolleyes:

Megas_Doux
09-04-2014, 02:40 AM
Napoleon? :rolleyes:

In one the 92029092029 interviews, Amancio said that

Had the assassins and templars reached a lasting truce, the outcome of the revolution would have better....

And

Arno dislikes all the assassin´s protocls and traditions.... So I think he will be the one looking to unite both groups in order to fight the greater evil

But

I´m thinking on a Mr and Mrs similar scenario in which Elise is killed by a templar fellow and Arno just "disregards" the alliance......

Namikaze_17
09-04-2014, 02:56 AM
@Mega

True...hopefully it doesn't end in some over-the-top or anti-climactic way. :rolleyes: