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JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 04:43 PM
Who are you more interested in ATM?

I prefer Shay. Mainly because templar, connected to Haytham, likely interacts with already-established cast of characters, etc.

But I may end up liking Arno more when the games release. I'm keeping my eye on both still ofc.

What about you?


http://i.imgur.com/C0oJTYu.png

Take your pick.

Shahkulu101
08-08-2014, 04:46 PM
I'd say Shay because he's a Templar and has a more interesting story premise going for him, that's not to say Unity's doesn't have potential as well but...TEMPLAR HUNTING ASSASSINS!!

ze_topazio
08-08-2014, 04:50 PM
Butthurt Assassin hunter seems interesting I have to admit, more than emo French Assassin of justice and love.

NondairyGold
08-08-2014, 04:50 PM
Shay, because of the different take on the established AC formula.

HiddenKiller612
08-08-2014, 04:51 PM
Sharno

Kaschra
08-08-2014, 04:51 PM
Right now? Shay. Definitely Shay.
I'm interested in Arno too, of course, but our first Templar protagonist just caught my interest

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 04:51 PM
Shay......

Not only does his story seem interesting as hell.....but he also looks more Badass than Arno does 10X.

But I think like Arno though....and perhaps his story. But you can't ignore a TEMPLAR HUNTING down ASSASSIN'S.

#Shayallday

Xstantin
08-08-2014, 04:51 PM
Right now it's Arno for me (but I also consider Elise, Templars changing direction of the order, and the French Rev as the setting).

Sushiglutton
08-08-2014, 04:53 PM
Arno for me! Shay seems like an angry tough guy who will go on a massive killing spree (in other words, he seems just like Kratos). I'm more interested in the love story of AC:U, which is far more rare in gaming. Also wanna find out more about Arno's Austrian background and ties to Versaille. He seems like a more likeable and witty person, which I appreciate.

Kaschra
08-08-2014, 04:54 PM
TBH I'm also more interested in Elise than in Arno :'D

AherasSTRG
08-08-2014, 04:56 PM
Defo Anakin Skyw... I mean, Shay.

jayjay275
08-08-2014, 04:58 PM
Arno, easily.

SpiritOfNevaeh
08-08-2014, 04:59 PM
I'm interested in both, but Shay has a slight lead over Arno, being an assassin hunter and all.

EDIT: OMG the votes are tied 6-6 xD

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 05:03 PM
@Sushi
I love Kratos....I'd love if he's like that......(when killing Assassins) but he's nice and human around comrades and perhaps a love interest?
@Kaschra
You know....I find myself too.

Reptilis91
08-08-2014, 05:04 PM
Well, we know almost nothing about Shay...

So I would say Arno. (personnality, backstory etc) And Amancio said that he is getting quite popular in Ubisoft's studios, it makes me more excited.

SpiritOfNevaeh
08-08-2014, 05:05 PM
Well, we know almost nothing about Shay...

So I would say Arno. (personnality, backstory etc) And Amancio said that he is getting quite popular in Ubisoft's studios.

Of course the studio would like them... they work there! :p

Amancio: Like this character or you're fired! :rolleyes:

Xstantin
08-08-2014, 05:09 PM
I was really looking forward for the Templar-themed game, but at the moment Shay is a bit too much of a badass imo, maybe it's just the trailer though

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 05:10 PM
I was really looking forward for the Templar-themed game, but at the moment Shay is a bit too much of a badass imo, maybe it's just the trailer though

I thought Shay was portrayed more as an 'evil jerk' in the trailer than a badass.

But to each their own, I suppose.

SpiritOfNevaeh
08-08-2014, 05:12 PM
I was really looking forward for the Templar-themed game, but at the moment Shay is a bit too much of a badass imo, maybe it's just the trailer though

Eh? Since when do you not like badasses now? lol

AherasSTRG
08-08-2014, 05:12 PM
I thought Shay was portrayed more as an 'evil jerk' in the trailer than a badass.

But to each their own, I suppose.

I felt like he was portrayed as NUTS in the trailer. You know, going insane and stuff...

Sushiglutton
08-08-2014, 05:13 PM
@Sushi
I love Kratos....I'd love if he's like that......(when killing Assassins) but he's nice and human around comrades and perhaps a love interest?


I like Kratos a lot in GOW, because his personality works so well with the gameplay. Not convinved it will be right for AC (but obv we know very, very little so far).

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 05:14 PM
Poll been tied for past 3 group of votes

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/513/984/ba6.gif

AC fans y u gotta be so diverse

@adher

I didn't see it as nuts, as much as I saw it as merciless, but I get what you mean.

UbiDuchess
08-08-2014, 05:16 PM
I'm going to refrain from casting a vote officially, but count me on Team Arno. I'm interested in both but I'm just super excited for the Unity story.

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 05:19 PM
I like Kratos a lot in GOW, because his personality works so well with the gameplay. Not convinved it will be right for AC (but obv we know very, very little so far).

Oh, no....I don't think his personality should be like Kratos neither the gameplay.

Just his motivation for killing the Assassin's should be.......like NOTHING should stop him from getting the job done like Kratos did.

Xstantin
08-08-2014, 05:22 PM
I thought Shay was portrayed more as an 'evil jerk' in the trailer than a badass.

But to each their own, I suppose.

:D I've always liked "evil jerk" characters who make questionable desicions, so most likely he'll get to my fav character list, right now it's too early

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 05:23 PM
I'm going to refrain from casting a vote officially, but count me on Team Arno. I'm interested in both but I'm just super excited for the Unity story.

http://i.imgur.com/aRvY8AI.png
http://i.imgur.com/vRXmxVq.png
:rolleyes:

@KEV

same. My top 2 fav chars of all time are evil jerks :rolleyes:

AherasSTRG
08-08-2014, 05:26 PM
@adher

I didn't see it as nuts, as much as I saw it as merciless, but I get what you mean.

I saw him as Nuts, because of the words he uses in his monologue and a description of him from the official Ubiblog:

Mentioning at least 3 times in 45 seconds that he is a Hunter, the fact that he acknowledges his descending into darkness, the tone of his voice (awesome voice actor btw) and the UbiBlog writer mentioning that "Betrayal can do terrible things to a person's psyche"...

GunnerGalactico
08-08-2014, 05:27 PM
I'm gonna go with Shay. He sounds a lot more interesting than Arno. At times, we always hear about Assassins who betray their order and become Templars. With Shay it is different, it is the Assassins who betrayed him and that's a game changer for me. Honestly speaking, I think I'm more excited about Rogue than Unity.

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 05:27 PM
@Mayrice.

Ahh.....I want a 'Team Shay' shirt.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 05:28 PM
@adher

oh. well I mainly listened to the US version of the trailer which has different diologue. He sounds much more sane in that version

@namikaze

you could have one custom made for like 25 bucks :rolleyes:

tho nobody except forum members would get the joke, lol

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 05:42 PM
@Mayrice.

Hmm......that's sounds reasonable.

And I listened to both versions.

U.S Version:
"It matters not how history remembers me....what matters is that I followed my own Creed."
UK Version:
"The Cold is still....and I am a Hunter."

Personally I think the US version makes him sound more collected and prideful.

Reptilis91
08-08-2014, 05:42 PM
Actually I find the beginning of the trailer a bit risible, Shay the gangsta you know... I'm afraid that he's a sort of Anakin Skywalker... Grrrr I'm not happy so I will destroy the brotherhood!!! *a lightning strikes behind him* I mean, being a templar is, without a doubt, very refreshing, but what about HIM, as a man?

Arno seems to be waaay more interesting for the moment.

However, I hope I'm wrong and that Shay is also interesting in his own way.

drewits
08-08-2014, 05:43 PM
Arno mainly cause he's a bit more of a mystery at the moment. All the things said about Rouge are about Shay's personality and motives whereas Arno apart from one interview I've read have found nothing on Arno's personality so that's a real mystery (which I like in a character). I am also voting Arno cause unity is the game I'll be buying unless Rouge comes out for PC at some point or I give in and buy it for my much neglected Ps3.

guardian_titan
08-08-2014, 05:54 PM
There's honestly too little about Shay known for me to know if I'd like him over Arno, but given I already dislike Arno with what little I know about him, I'd say Shay, especially if it means Haytham appears.

I'm just hoping Rogue is written better than Liberation. I'm considering renting Rogue for the PS3 if it gets decent reviews, but I only intend to buy it if it comes to PC..

m4r-k7
08-08-2014, 06:06 PM
Impossible to tell. Shay might be the generic Templar and Arno might be the generic Assassin. Who knows they might both be amazing characters. We just have to wait and see!

cawatrooper
08-08-2014, 06:07 PM
Shay.
I'm sure Arno's going to be an interesting character when we get to know him better, Shay seems like nothing we've ever seen before. Even the more intriguing parts of Arno's character, such as his romance with the Templar Elise, have been done before ( Altair and Maria).

killzab
08-08-2014, 06:12 PM
I'm gonna say Shay as well ... an Assassin hunter... so badass !!!

Junguler
08-08-2014, 06:22 PM
both, i like all of ac protags except ac2 and brotherhood's ezio.

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 06:27 PM
Shay for multiple reasons, Arno seems like a classy guy, but not that interesting. Shay is a templar killing his fellow brethern because they bettrayed him, seems far more interestn then anything we had so far. Also he knows Hayhtam and possibly has interaction with other previous characters.

pacmanate
08-08-2014, 06:35 PM
As a person, Shay purely for being an Assassin and we get to actually EXPERIENCE the shift to Templar. Most interesting narrative plot I have ever heard for an AC game. Very excited.

On the other hand, we know nothing about Arnos story. ATM I think my choice is biased, but Shay.


As games though, excited for Rogues Storyline, excited for Unity's Gameplay.

SixKeys
08-08-2014, 06:40 PM
As a character, Shay definitely sounds more intriguing.

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 06:40 PM
As a person, Shay purely for being an Assassin and we get to actually EXPERIENCE the shift to Templar. Most interesting narrative plot I have ever heard for an AC game. Very excited.

On the other hand, we know nothing about Shays story. ATM I think my choice is biased, but Shay.


As games though, excited for Rogues Storyline, excited for Unity's Gameplay.
This, the only real selling point rogue seems to have is it's story, everything alse is more of the same. It probably won't even be as good as ac4 nor will it have the same amount of content. If the writer f*cks this up I might just watch the game on youtube or buy it for 20 bucks next year.

m4r-k7
08-08-2014, 06:41 PM
I hope Rogue's story is executed with care and is not some sort of stupid story where Shay is just a strong guy who wants to form his own creed just because he doesn't want to be pushed around by assassins. I hope the reason he switches factions isn't because he BELIEVES he was betrayed by them in some way but he was ACTUALLY betrayed by them in some bad way. I really want Rogue to work but I don't know how well they will execute a Templar as a main character. So far it seems like he is some crazy guy who just wants to start killing random assassins because a mission went wrong when he was one.

They are making Arno seem pretty interesting, especially because of his Templar relations and his character. However, just like with Rogue we can't tell yet.

I hope both are good but at the moment, Rogue's story doesn't intrigue me too much as it seems too generic. I may and probably will be wrong of course.

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 06:42 PM
both, i like all of ac protags except ac2 and brotherhood's ezio.

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Plus, WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 06:47 PM
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Plus, WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!
He must be Assassin-M who made a new account.

pacmanate
08-08-2014, 06:47 PM
This, the only real selling point rogue seems to have is it's story, everything alse is more of the same. It probably won't even be as good as ac4 nor will it have the same amount of content. If the writer f*cks this up I might just watch the game on youtube or buy it for 20 bucks next year.

Sorry, meant to put we don't know anything about Arnos story, only his "background" so to speak, we don't know what hes doing exactly.

But yeah, Shays story sounds interesting. I just hope his character is and that its exectued well

Junguler
08-08-2014, 06:55 PM
He must be Assassin-M who made a new account.

i been reading ubi's forum for awhile but just now decided to post something, and i don't know this person you mentioned but if you think i'm him/her it's ok..

SHADOWGARVIN
08-08-2014, 06:56 PM
Arno! Paris looks amazing. I wasn't a big fan of new york.

Toa TAK
08-08-2014, 06:58 PM
Arno. His quest for justice and love is perfect for a romantic like me.

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 07:01 PM
i been reading ubi's forum for awhile but just now decided to post something, and i don't know this person you mentioned but if you think i'm him/her it's ok..
It was a joke :p
If you stay here for a while you will soon understand why I said you are him :p
Welcome the the forum btw!

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 07:03 PM
Arno! Paris looks amazing. I wasn't a big fan of new york.

I chose Shay because I like to go on vacation to Ireland.

SHADOWGARVIN
08-08-2014, 07:06 PM
I chose Shay because I like to go on vacation to Ireland.

I've never been to Ireland.

pacmanate
08-08-2014, 07:07 PM
i been reading ubi's forum for awhile but just now decided to post something, and i don't know this person you mentioned but if you think i'm him/her it's ok..

You are sexier.

Welcome to the forums!

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 07:09 PM
I've never been to Ireland.
Me neither.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 07:10 PM
Shay falling behind in the poll.

Oh noes

http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jon-stewart-popcorn.gif

SHADOWGARVIN
08-08-2014, 07:10 PM
Me neither.

Then what are you talking about?

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 07:14 PM
Then what are you talking about?
Why do Paris and New York matter in a poll between 2 characters?

Toa TAK
08-08-2014, 07:16 PM
Shay falling behind in the poll.

Oh noes

http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jon-stewart-popcorn.gif
#teamarno

SHADOWGARVIN
08-08-2014, 07:17 PM
I'm more excited to play as Arno because he seems more interesting. Torn between love and duty. Plus i like the setting better. Like i said i wasn't a big fan of new york.

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 07:20 PM
I'm more excited to play as Arno because he seems more interesting. Torn between love and duty. Plus i like the setting better. Like i said i wasn't a big fan of new york.
it doesn't matter to me who you prefer, I just thought you gave some weird arguments. :p

SHADOWGARVIN
08-08-2014, 07:24 PM
it doesn't matter to me who you prefer, I just thought you gave some weird arguments. :p

Haha. I already replied to your pm.

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 07:30 PM
Haha. I already replied to your pm.
No problem dude, I just gave you a saracastic answer and you didn't get it wich led to even more misunderstanding :p

Hans684
08-08-2014, 08:56 PM
Shay's story is far more interesting, a mission go wrong and causes a traumatic event, he leaves the Assassin Order and because of that they try to kill him. So he takes revenge. A clear motive and a focused character. So my vote go to Shay.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 09:11 PM
Shay getting rekt in the polls :eek:

Hans684
08-08-2014, 09:18 PM
Shay getting rekt in the polls :eek:

Everybody wants to rule the world.

Stealth Gamer92
08-08-2014, 09:18 PM
Shay has an air riffle! No way arno can top that.

lothario-da-be
08-08-2014, 09:24 PM
Shay has an air riffle! No way arno can top that.
Arno has a Templar redhead. No way Shay can top this.

pacmanate
08-08-2014, 09:26 PM
Shay has an air riffle! No way arno can top that.

Depends if you wanna be loud and proud or silent and violent

Stealth Gamer92
08-08-2014, 09:31 PM
Depends if you wanna be loud and proud or silent and violent

The real life air riffles from that time period WERE considered a quiet weapon.

@Pac: Touchet mon a mi.

Assassin_M
08-08-2014, 09:48 PM
Sharno

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 09:49 PM
Shaytham >>>>>>>>>> Sharno

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 09:59 PM
Arno has a Templar redhead. No way Shay can top this.

Shay has/marries a redhead ASSASSIN wife. :p

LoyalACFan
08-08-2014, 10:29 PM
TBH Shay seems boring to me. Just your generic gruff, stoic hardass. Of course that's just from the trailer, so he might be nothing like that in the game, but based on what we've seen I'm not that interested in him. They have a golden opportunity to show us a good guy Templar here though, so I hope they don't blow it.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 10:51 PM
Connor seemed like a generic badass in his trailer.

Infact, all the assassins do, lol.

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 11:06 PM
@Mayrice.

Of Course.....especially when he jumped on a guard only to execute a perfect bow and arrow shot to pitcairn.

#ifthatsnotbadassidontknowwhatis :rolleyes:

killzab
08-08-2014, 11:07 PM
The real life air riffles from that time period WERE considered a quiet weapon.

@Pac: Touchet mon a mi.

It's "Touché mon ami" :D

Layytez
08-08-2014, 11:17 PM
Arno. I still don't feel right being a previous assassin and killing all of my brothers because I had an argument and nearly died due to a few of them.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 11:20 PM
Could be that he saw his assassin brothers brutally murdering people he deemed innocent or something.

Emphasis on 'deemed innocent' because yes I do know the Creed is against killing 'innocents'

Layytez
08-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Maybe, but his current motivation doesn't interest me just because he is a Templar. One is leaving the assassins due to them almost getting you killed but you could have easily taken care of them without having to join the opposition. Makes you wonder if he was really an assassin or just calling himself one.

I-Like-Pie45
08-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Could be that he saw his assassin brothers brutally murdering people he deemed innocent or something.

Emphasis on 'deemed innocent' because yes I do know the Creed is against killing 'innocents'

No one is innocent if you look hard enough.

Except for me. I bring joy to people all over the world with my wares.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 11:33 PM
Maybe, but his current motivation doesn't interest me just because he is a Templar. One is leaving the assassins due to them almost getting you killed but you could have easily taken care of them without having to join the opposition. Makes you wonder if he was really an assassin or just calling himself one.

the devs already said he wasn't a dedicated assassin and was very laid back because of his youth and him being a bit of a newbie if I recall correctly. He wasn't passionate about the creed to begin with.

I-Like-Pie45
08-08-2014, 11:36 PM
well dats lame

what we need is a ded *** like altair or connor that goes turncoat

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 11:36 PM
What if the "brothers" he hates, went against the Creed's tenets that ends up f***ing him up in the process to think ALL ASSASSIN's are that way. I actually wanna see ruthless Assassin's that blame one another for their failures......like a pack of wolves.

It'd go well with Daniel Cross's quote: "They proclaim themselves a brotherhood....but the moment thing go wrong....they turn....to a pack of wolves."

^ It was something like that....I couldn't find the quote.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 11:38 PM
nooooooooo

I want him to oppose actual dedicated assassins who follow the creed

it would ruin all meaning if the assassins he opposed didn't follow the tenants

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 11:41 PM
the devs already said he wasn't a dedicated assassin and was very laid back because of his youth and him being a bit of a newbie if I recall correctly. He wasn't passionate about the creed to begin with.

He doesn't seem passionate about anything.....he did say he followed "his own Creed" which makes me curious about his allegiance to either side......because the TEMPLARS act on REALIZATION......NOT a CREED.

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 11:47 PM
nooooooooo

I want him to oppose actual dedicated assassins who follow the creed

it would ruin all meaning if the assassins he opposed didn't follow the tenants
You miss my point.

He sees enough ruthlessness and betrayal among the Assassins that he questions their cause for awhile to eventually find a true home and understanding with the Templars.

The World is wide friend.....Other Assassin's being the "bad light" at some point has to happen......but him questioning/debating with dedicated would give the Templars more meaning in what they stand for.

Let's just say Shay disagrees.....and the Assassins try to kill him over it.......so he sees his "wolfpack" view of them.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 11:47 PM
Doesnt mean a templar can't have a creed.

it's just not mandatory

edit:

maybe his beef is with the colonial assassins only and not all assassins

I-Like-Pie45
08-08-2014, 11:48 PM
Shay gets some body surgery and finds a time poe that sends him to Orlando in the year 1992. There he makes a slight adjustment to his name and begins a new career, thus following his own Creed.

Namikaze_17
08-08-2014, 11:56 PM
Doesnt mean a templar can't have a creed.

it's just not mandatory

edit:

maybe his beef is with the colonial assassins only and not all assassins

Haytham before his death clearly states the Templars require no Creed because it's more or less a hindrance to them. Only Order and Realization.

Perhaps Shay has a Realization about the Assassin's and their Creed? And perhaps he could have only a thing against the colonial Assassin's.......wouldn't surprise me if the final boss is Achilles or something.

JustPlainQuirky
08-08-2014, 11:59 PM
Yes. they are not REQUIRED to have a creed. But they may have one if they LIKE. That's the difference :p

And I still think the final boss will be the first colonial assassin (the one connor's green costume is based on) and the Aquilla.

Unless new characters are introduced that make me think otherwise.

Namikaze_17
08-09-2014, 12:07 AM
Yes. they are not REQUIRED to have a creed. But they may have one if they LIKE. That's the difference :p

And I still think the final boss will be the first colonial assassin (the one connor's green costume is based on) and the Aquilla.

Unless new characters are introduced that make me think otherwise.

And that's why I somewhat think Shay isn't a Full Templar yet.....he's just a **** that's pissed a couple "brothers" betrayed him...so now he follows his own "Creed" to kill while using the Templars as a backdrop.

Hopefully this isn't the case. But I like your first colonial Assassin idea.....but wasn't he there before even Achilles?

killzab
08-09-2014, 12:08 AM
Yes. they are not REQUIRED to have a creed. But they may have one if they LIKE. That's the difference :p

And I still think the final boss will be the first colonial assassin (the one connor's green costume is based on) and the Aquilla.

Unless new characters are introduced that make me think otherwise.

Or it could be Achilles...

m4r-k7
08-09-2014, 12:12 AM
Shay will be killed by Achilles.
Shay's daughter is Elise - Theres a reason they haven't told us Elise's last name.

Thats my prediction.

JustPlainQuirky
08-09-2014, 12:16 AM
Yeah I'm on board with the Shay-Elise theory.

@namikaze

I'm sure he'll end up believing in control and all that jazz.

Namikaze_17
08-09-2014, 12:17 AM
Shay will be killed by Achilles.
Shay's daughter is Elise - Theres a reason they haven't told us Elise's last name.

Thats my prediction.

Achilles's Boss level will go up by a 100 if that happens......and I'm starting to have that theory as well. It would make sense.....they even look somewhat alike too.

#Irony

m4r-k7
08-09-2014, 12:18 AM
Achilles's Boss level will go up by a 100 if that happens......and I starting to have that theory as well. It would make sense.....they even look somewhat alike too.

#Irony

Achille's was the leader of the colonial assassins (I think) and Shay is the one hunting them down so I am pretty sure it will be Achille's who kills him, especially as they say AC 3 characters will be in the game.

JustPlainQuirky
08-09-2014, 12:19 AM
I don't want Shay to be killed by Achillese. I want him to lliiiiiiiiiiiive. D:

#andmaybemeetconnor

Namikaze_17
08-09-2014, 12:21 AM
@Mayrice.

Perhaps.....but he probably will have his own version to it. Like how Edward has his version to: "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted."

Namikaze_17
08-09-2014, 12:23 AM
I don't want Shay to be killed by Achillese. I want him to lliiiiiiiiiiiive. D:

#andmaybemeetconnor

At this point, I can really see Achilles or Connor killing him.

Both would be great....but shay might live.

JustPlainQuirky
08-09-2014, 12:25 AM
Shay can be the dad Haytham never was Q-Q

like achilles, only he doesn't die...

#imbeingirrationalbecauseoffeels TT-TT

m4r-k7
08-09-2014, 12:28 AM
At this point, I can really see Achilles or Connor killing him.

Both would be great....but shay might live.

It can't be Connor he was baby at the time lol
I am guessing Haytham and Shay team up though

JustPlainQuirky
08-09-2014, 12:31 AM
this is a bit off topic tho so im moving this discussion to the general Rogue thread.

This is about Shay Vs. Arno

Namikaze_17
08-09-2014, 12:33 AM
It can't be Connor he was baby at the time lol
I am guessing Haytham and Shay team up though

I mean in like so sort of epilogue in which Connor intends to kill him but doesn't because he's merciful over an old shay. Perhaps even realizes Haytham's relations with him.

Remember, this is a possibility...not fact.

Legendz54
08-09-2014, 12:40 AM
Shay.

Namikaze_17
08-09-2014, 12:44 AM
^ Has Arno Avatar but Shay signature.

#Indecisive

Legendz54
08-09-2014, 12:48 AM
:rolleyes: yes indeed.. I am torn.. But I would say Shay now because he comes into contact with some favourite old characters of mine. So its about Shay 51% and Arno 49%

pacmanate
08-09-2014, 12:56 AM
I mean in like so sort of epilogue in which Connor intends to kill him but doesn't because he's merciful over an old shay. Perhaps even realizes Haytham's relations with him.

Remember, this is a possibility...not fact.

Connor will not kill "old shay". I will bet money on it. Hes not mention by Haytham, Achilles, Journal or in databases. Shay is either Dead by the time Connors an Assassin, or he retires.


But probably dead.

JustPlainQuirky
08-09-2014, 12:58 AM
moved that topic to the general rogue thread, pac

tho if it gets too connor related might move it to the connor one

Legendz54
08-09-2014, 01:01 AM
Connor will not kill "old shay". I will bet money on it. Hes not mention by Haytham, Achilles, Journal or in databases. Shay is either Dead by the time Connors an Assassin, or he retires.


But probably dead.

Or they just created Shay like a year ago and that was after they made Haytham's journal and all that. A hundred bucks that Shay is still Alive during the events of AC3 and maybe early AC Unity and is just in hiding or operating from somewhere else.

Loki Will Rule
08-09-2014, 01:01 AM
At the moment I'm definitely more interested in Shay. Arno hasn't really stood out for me that much so far.

Reptilis91
08-09-2014, 01:14 AM
Shay will be killed by Achilles.
Shay's daughter is Elise - Theres a reason they haven't told us Elise's last name.

Thats my prediction.

Actually it's Elise de la Serre. And Shay could be Anne Bonny's son, initially her last name is Cormac.

Legendz54
08-09-2014, 01:16 AM
Hmmm Elise patrick Cormac...

Shahkulu101
08-09-2014, 01:21 AM
Oh yeah that could be the fate of Anne Bonny's baby - ruthless assassin hunter! She was still pregnant at the end of AC4 right? That could potentially be awesome.

Also, de la Serre is not Elise's last name, it's just where she comes from "Elise from Serre" in English. Like Leonardo Da Vinci and Ezio Auditore Da Firenze, it just refers to where she was born. So she could still be Shay's daughter, but that would be contrived in my opinion.

StocktonBrawler
08-09-2014, 03:27 AM
Shay by far. Honestly, he seems like the most interesting character thus far. After such subpar or rather inadequate leads, it's refreshing to see a character like him take the helm.

pacmanate
08-09-2014, 04:17 AM
Oh yeah that could be the fate of Anne Bonny's baby - ruthless assassin hunter! She was still pregnant at the end of AC4 right? That could potentially be awesome.



Mind. Squish!

tempest224
08-09-2014, 04:22 AM
shay by far. as much as i love the assassins i'm still rather curious to know what makes an assassin turn to the templars and rogue may be an insight to such an answer, plus if you look at arno on the left side of the screen here he kind of looks like jake gyllenhaal.

LoyalACFan
08-09-2014, 04:58 AM
Anne's baby died. Sorry to piss on the parade.

pacmanate
08-09-2014, 05:01 AM
Anne's baby died. Sorry to piss on the parade.

OOOOOOOOOOOO

I do that too! But people got angry at me :(

Dome500
08-09-2014, 04:01 PM
I'd say both but since I have to choose.... Arno. While I am also interested in the Assassin Turncoat I think Arno seems pretty...... different from the Assassin we had so far, except of one.

Arno gives me an Altair vibe and Altair is one of my favorite, if not my single favorite Assassin.

Namikaze_17
08-09-2014, 04:17 PM
I'd say both but since I have to choose.... Arno. While I am also interested in the Assassin Turncoat I think Arno seems pretty...... different from the Assassin we had so far, except of one.

Arno gives me an Altair vibe and Altair is one of my favorite, if not my single favorite Assassin.


^ This. I agree a 100%.

Hans684
08-09-2014, 06:52 PM
Anne's baby died. Sorry to piss on the parade.

She could still get another, might save her if she is captured for an execution again.