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HayateKid
05-07-2004, 11:22 AM
There's usually noone on the blue teamspeak. Is it ok to listen in on the Red team while playing on the blue side?

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HayateKid
05-07-2004, 11:22 AM
There's usually noone on the blue teamspeak. Is it ok to listen in on the Red team while playing on the blue side?

"First learn stand, then learn fly. Nature rule, Daniel San, not mine." - Mr. Miyagi

TgD Thunderbolt56
05-07-2004, 11:34 AM
Possible? yes

O.K.? What do you think?

Kinda like using the mirror behind another player at the poker table.

I listened in the other night just to try to put a name with a voice, but red was so heavy, I couldn't stick around. I went blue and there were only 2 players on blue's com channel.



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_VR_ScorpionWorm
05-07-2004, 11:35 AM
Personnaly, I dont see how different it is from switching it back and forth when offline, its not like you going to get an advantage, the maps are small and everybody knows what the objectives are.

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initjust
05-07-2004, 12:10 PM
If the objective is to "simulate" what it was like during WWII then listening in on the other team's comms is not only OK but should be SOP.

The radios used were not secure and everything said by one side could be listened to by the other.

That's why maintaining proper radio discipline and radio silence was so important.

If the objective is something less then I suppose the teams should agree on what is acceptable.

SeaFireLIV
05-07-2004, 12:13 PM
What? Of course not. If you know what 2 bogies on your tail are intending cos you can hear them it gives a BIG advantage! Not just that, but then you can intercept and blow potential attacks all the time. I know, when I`ve practised with the Squad and I`m on the other side, it helps me big time in avoiding wingman traps and other manouevers. In fact what happens is the guys on the other start to say less and less until they simply don`t talk on TS at all!

This is why you have separate channels.

This is why pilots kept quiet in R\L.

This is why enemy pilots tried to listen in, in R\L.

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
05-07-2004, 12:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
What? Of course not. If you know what 2 bogies on your tail are intending cos you can hear them it gives a BIG advantage! Not just that, but then you can intercept and blow potential attacks all the time. I know, when I`ve practised with the Squad and I`m on the other side, it helps me big time in avoiding wingman traps and other manouevers. In fact what happens is the guys on the other start to say less and less until they simply don`t talk on TS at all!

This is why you have separate channels.

This is why pilots kept quiet in R\L.

This is why enemy pilots tried to listen in, in R\L.

SeaFireLIV...



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Hmmmm, I stand corrected. That puts it into a different perspetive, would have never thought of it that way. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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LeadSpitter_
05-07-2004, 12:24 PM
Am I the only one who wants to punch this guy in the head? He probally voted against chute killing also.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
05-07-2004, 12:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Am I the only one who wants to punch this guy in the head? He probally voted against chute killing also.

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SeaFireLIV
05-07-2004, 12:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Am I the only one who wants to punch this guy in the head? He probally voted against chute killing also.

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Explain. After that I can give YOU my response!

Oh, and I did vote against chute killing. Did it not meet your views?

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HayateKid
05-07-2004, 12:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Am I the only one who wants to punch this guy in the head? He probally voted against chute killing also.
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So you think that somebody who'd listen in on enemy radio would be against chute killing? Interesting.

Actually, I am FOR allowing chute killing. I'm not yet sure about listening in. But i think initjust convinced me that it is a valid war tactic to listen in. This would force teams to speak in codes just like in the war -- wouldn't that be cool.

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SeaFireLIV
05-07-2004, 12:53 PM
Well, I think it shouldn`t be done, that doesn`t mean I would crucify anyone who did. I`d simply be more careful on TS, same goes for killing bailers. But I don`t like Leadspitter`s ways of expressing it, whether to me or anyone else.

triggerhappyfin
05-07-2004, 01:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HayateKid:
There's usually noone on the blue teamspeak. Is it ok to listen in on the Red team while playing on the blue side?

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It´ok....but if I catch you with it, I´ll have u shot against a wall in dawn.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

LeadSpitter_
05-07-2004, 01:15 PM
And I respect your view seafire. I just dont care for this hayatekid spammer name. Weather he voted yes or no doesnt matter.

You can understand why Im upset, The only server I would fly in has been warclouds44 and warcloudsTOH since 2.0, some VFC coops and virtualpilots occasionally but been playingt hat finnish gulf map since 1.0.

Warclouds use to run very smooth for me, i get 50-60 ping in there. I enjoyed the server because anything goes, no padlock, no external views and closed canopy. To me the deathkick is a nice thing to test but its making the game run horible.

There is more warp then ever from the constant joiners. Yes it use to take awhile to get in warclouds but when you got in, it was a smooth game not constant people leaving and joining. And now for all these useless rules which is why I dont join a few other servers. Whats next not allowing vulching becuase someone got kicked out of the server. I dont like the people who vulch the same spot 3 times in a row then the new joiner gets kicked right away either but it happens and makes the team your on want to get them back. That kicks a person alot quicker then an occasional parachute killing. But its what makes warclouds a good server becuase anything goes, it makes people defend thier bases and escorts planes to the target

You know you can bailout and avoid your pilot being shot with a tight turn full flaps bank and bail, you can also bail out in clouds. Its just otherways to make you want to stay alive longer. The majority of people wont even see you bail and continue to chase your plane when bailing. You also can bail then hit esc refly before your parachute is even deployed.

Theres also people who will bail out if they are simply out numbered to avoid being shotdown using this rule as a exploit and making thier plane disapear right away..

But then again its not our server sparx will do as he pleases.

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S77th-Chek6
05-07-2004, 01:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by initjust:
If the objective is to "simulate" what it was like during WWII then listening in on the other team's comms is not only OK but should be SOP.

The radios used were not secure and everything said by one side could be listened to by the other.

That's why maintaining proper radio discipline and radio silence was so important.
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All of the above is true, but since for the most part enemies spoke different languages, this is hardly a comparison for a bunch of teamspeakers that speaks primarily in english.


Teams separate = Channels separate = don't listen in = my vote.



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HayateKid
05-07-2004, 01:30 PM
Hey Leadspitter, i understand you must be frothing in the mouth because the chute killing poll actually shows more people favor allowing it. welcome to the real world, son, sometimes the majority will not agree with you. deal with it.

"First learn stand, then learn fly. Nature rule, Daniel San, not mine." - Mr. Miyagi

HayateKid
05-07-2004, 01:42 PM
you know there's a reason why I asked this question here. I really wanted to know how the community feels about it. It was a question, not a suggestion or an opinion either way that I expressed.

But those people here who attack me as if I actually did it already, you just convinced me that I shouldn't care what you think anymore. I'm going to piss you off and do it. And you can't do anything about it.

"First learn stand, then learn fly. Nature rule, Daniel San, not mine." - Mr. Miyagi

HayateKid
05-07-2004, 01:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HayateKid:
you know there's a reason why I asked this question here. I really wanted to know how the community feels about it. It was a question, not a suggestion or an opinion either way that I expressed.

But those people here who attack me as if I actually did it already, you just convinced me that I shouldn't care what you think anymore. I'm going to piss you off and do it. And you can't do anything about it (except make empty threats like Leadspitter).

"First learn stand, then learn fly. Nature rule, Daniel San, not mine." - Mr. Miyagi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"First learn stand, then learn fly. Nature rule, Daniel San, not mine." - Mr. Miyagi

SeaFireLIV
05-07-2004, 02:23 PM
ok, LeadSpitter_ . I understand now. You`ve more experience than me on that server, so you make a valid point.

FI-Aflak
05-07-2004, 05:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thunderbolt56:
Possible? yes

O.K.? What do you think?

Kinda like using the mirror behind another player at the poker table.

I listened in the other night just to try to put a name with a voice, but red was so heavy, I couldn't stick around. I went blue and there were only 2 players on blue's com channel.



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Not at all. You could switch your radio channel is RL, is a realistic server, this is OK.

VFS-22_Swiss
05-07-2004, 07:24 PM
Just to clear the air and state my opinion, I voted to not allow chute shooting. Its a personal choice, not a mandate, just a choice, an opinion. The best part about this, and something that some fail to realize is that in WarClouds.....you HAVE an opinion, and you can believe me your voice is heard. Sparx and the admin crew actually discuss changes on the server, and opinions that are brought up here.

And what do Sparx and the rest of us want???.....Your enjoyment. We do ask for donations, but don't demand them. The only thing we ask is for is that you follow the rules that have been set by your peers.

Why is this server so popular???? Is it only the settings? Is it only the fact that we ban bad language? Is it the fact that we write missions for it?

Or is it that this server was built by the players that play it?......all of you.