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Sushiglutton
07-21-2014, 05:37 PM
This is not a suggestion, but rather something I'm hoping for in Unity. I feel like finally one of my countrymen will participate in an AC game and I'm hoping he will play a significant role :D! I'm talking about the legend (in Sweden) Axel Von Fersen! He would be a perfect assassin imo and hopefully a friend of Arno.

You can read (well overview) about his exciting life here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_von_Fersen_the_Younger

Here are some tidbits:

In 1771-1775 Axel makes his grand tour traveling around most of Europe. In Paris he meets Marie Antoinette for the first time (Axel is then 18):


A little over a week later, Axel meets Marie Antoinette, then Dauphine, for the first time:
"The Dauphine talked to me for a long time without me knowing who she was; at last when she was recognized, everybody pressed round her and she retired into a box at three o’clock: I left the ball."

Then in 1780 he decides to go to America as aide-de-camp to General Rochambeau. He even meets with Washington and Marquis de Lafayette:


By 1780, Axel convinced his friend Barrington that going to America was the only option by touching upon the fact that in France currently "it is the fashion to rhapsodize over the Americans' rebelliousness against England".
(...)
On meeting Washington, Axel remarks:
"He has the air of a hero; he is very cold, speaks little, but is polite and civil. An air of sadness pervades his whole countenance, which is not unbecoming to him, and makes him the more interesting."

After returning from the American civil war and some more traveling in Italy he returns to France:


On June 7, 1784 Axel returns to Versailles from Italy(...) They are entertained with the performance of a new comic opera by Marmontel called Le Dormeur Eveille, and with music by Grétry. Axel, Taube and Armfelt sit in the royal box beside Marie (...)

A month later Axel returns to Sweden, tasking himself with the job of getting a dog for Marie which she names Odin.


And perhaps the most exciting bit of all, his role in the escape of the royal family! Axel is actually the one driving the carriage at the beginning.


Axel sees the queen earlier on the day of the 20th, but the escape does not take place until later that night. At 11:15pm the royal children are brought out without difficulty. At 11:45 the king's sister Madame Elizabeth appears, followed by Louis himself. A half hour later they are still waiting for Marie. However, she comes out at the same time as the torchlit carriage of Lafayette appears with some of his men, though she is able to conceal herself enough to avoid detection. Lafayette, with the royal family slipping away practically in front of his eyes, is coincidentally the man in charge of keeping security tabs on them.

Axel drives the carriage first from the Place du Carrousel to the Porte Saint-Martin. After driving rapidly away through the deserted streets, he decides to call at Eleanore's house to find if his German coachman has started off with the berline as instructed. To this effect he takes a slight detour and stops a little beyond the house. After finding that all is according to plan, they set off again to the Barrier Saint-Martin where the berline is found and the glass coach they had started in left deserted. Axel will hold the reins as far as Bondy, seven miles from Paris, where the queen's maids and a fresh relay of horses await them.

They take the post road and Axel takes the road to Bourget, departing each other a little before 3am. If all goes well Axel is to meet them there; if not, the contingent plan is for him to travel to Brussels to deliver an important letter to the Austrian ambassador Mercy d'Argenteau, and to take action to stir the other European powers to action.

It is decided by Bouillé that when the carriage reaches Pont de Somme-Vesle, the young Duc de Choiseul would provide a military escort, but by 4:30pm the royal family is now two hours late for the rendezvous. He at last leads his men off convinced that the plan has miscarried. The royal family reaches Pont de Somme-Vesle only shortly afterward. Sainte-Menehould is reached at 8pm and Clermont an hour-and-a-half later. Varennes is finally reached on the 22nd around 11pm, but it is here that they are discovered and eventually held in custody until troops from the National Convention arrive. They depart Varennes surrounded by 6,000 armed citizens and National Guardsmen. Having left behind him a long declaration which has been read and published in all the newspapers in his absence, Louis himself has made it impossible to sustain the pretense that he has been 'abducted'.

At last there was a clatter of horse's hoofs outside. I darted to the door to meet Axel. He did not speak, and it was too dark to see his face. Still I did not realize what had happened, not until we stood in the little room, where the lights were flaring. Then I knew why he had not spoken- the despair in his eyes was such as no words can describe.

"Everything has failed," he said at last, "and I am desperate. They were recognized and arrested within sixteen leagues of the frontier."

ze_topazio
07-21-2014, 05:50 PM
He sound like an interesting man, would be cool if he appeared..

I-Like-Pie45
07-21-2014, 05:51 PM
Oh RIP general ac discussion/speculation thread

Sushiglutton
07-21-2014, 05:59 PM
He sound like an interesting man, would be cool if he appeared..He is one of the cooler Swedish historical characters imo. And I feel this is the greatest chance of a Swede playing an important role in AC.(well the competition is not that tough. I suppose it's Carl Linnaeus and Zlatan ;))
Oh RIP general ac discussion/speculation threadHere Woof, have some ribs:http://www.md-health.com/images/10416564/image001.jpg

pacmanate
07-21-2014, 06:02 PM
How are swedes your countryman?

http://www.ukagriculture.com/seasonal_foods/food_images/Swede.jpg
surely they are

http://americablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/shutterstock_94725664.jpg

Sushiglutton
07-21-2014, 06:09 PM
Haha wasn't even aware that there was a vegetable called "swede". But yeah, I rarely eat them, I mostly sleep with the fishes.

JustPlainQuirky
07-21-2014, 06:18 PM
He sounds like a cool interesting guy. But he comes off as an indifferent dude. I mean he even escorted the king and his family. I don't see him being an assassin, but I could see him being involved.

@pie

nah this is a good thread

Sushiglutton
07-21-2014, 06:23 PM
He sounds like a cool interesting guy. But he comes off as an indifferent dude. I mean he even escorted the king and his family. I don't see him being an assassin, but I could see him being involved.

I was thinking that through his travels he could be a link between the assassins, even if he's not one himself. For example he could have met Connor in America. Then when he returned from America he traveled in Italy. Perhaps Connor told him something that made him search for something Ezio-related :rolleyes:?


Early in 1784 the suite travel to Naples to escape the cold weather, where they visit the Strada di Toledo; picnic among the groves and cascades of Caserta; and make an excursion to Mount Vesuvius and the ruins of Pompeii and Paestum. Gustavus returns to Rome after this, where he receives the news that there has been a change of administration in Denmark and with the death of Trolle in Stockholm in March, their program of building up their naval armaments ends. From Rome they continue on to Venice.


Von Fersen was murdered by an angry mob in 1810. Do I sense they were instigated by the templars :)?

JustPlainQuirky
07-21-2014, 06:27 PM
Ah man what a tragic death. I see your point though. Didn't know he traveled into ruins like a cool MOFO.

He could be indirectly killed by a templar or assassin. I like to hope maybe it's not always the templars doing the 'evil' killings :p

Ureh
07-21-2014, 06:29 PM
Yeah maybe we can find/collect those journal entries about him . Once we collect them all, we can show it to him and he'll give us something cool.

Crouching.Tiger
07-21-2014, 06:49 PM
I mostly sleep with the fishes.

Now, that's just reinforcing negative stereotypes. I feel pigs are a far more common bed partner in Sweden (at least in the Southern, more civilized parts). Fish? That's just gross.


He is one of the cooler Swedish historical characters imo. And I feel this is the greatest chance of a Swede playing an important role in AC.(well the competition is not that tough. I suppose it's Carl Linnaeus and Zlatan ;))

Oh, there is a bunch I think. Alfred Nobel, Gustav III, a lot of rulers during the Swedish Empire, just from the top of my head



Von Fersen was murdered by an angry mob in 1810. Do I sense they were instigated by the templars :)?

Or the Assassins, depending on whether the (historically unsubstantiated) rumors about him being involved in the (historically non-existant) poisoning of Crown Prince Charles August (whose funeral procession he was attending when the mob decided to lynch him) are true or not. Notably, the death of Prince Charles August, who had no heirs, made the Swedish government pick one of Napoleon's officers, Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, to be the next king. Heavy conspiracy stuff right there.

Sushiglutton
07-21-2014, 06:56 PM
Ah man what a tragic death. I see your point though. Didn't know he traveled into ruins like a cool MOFO.

He could be indirectly killed by a templar or assassin. I like to hope maybe it's not always the templars doing the 'evil' killings :p

Says nothing about him climbing the ruins though :p. Yeah maybe the assassins made a misstake and took him out.




Yeah maybe we can find/collect those journal entries about him . Once we collect them all, we can show it to him and he'll give us something cool.

Perhaps he can give us a dog named Odin!



Now, that's just reinforcing negative stereotypes. I feel pigs are a far more common bed partner in Sweden (at least in the Southern, more civilized parts). Fish? That's just gross.

What can I say, I'm from the west coast ;)!



Oh, there is a bunch I think. Alfred Nobel, Gustav III, a lot of rulers during the Swedish Empire, just from the top of my head

Yeah I wasn't really being serious. There have been some cool Swedes.



Or the Assassins, depending on whether the (historically unsubstantiated) rumors about him being involved in the (historically non-existant) poisoning of Crown Prince Charles August (whose funeral procession he was attending when the mob decided to lynch him) are true or not. Notably, the death of Prince Charles August, who had no heirs, made the Swedish government pick one of Napoleon's officers, Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, to be the next king. Heavy conspiracy stuff right there.

That's a neat idea! The conspirators of the French Revolution (leading to Napoleon's reign) could have pulled the strings for Von Fersen's death as well! If I recall my history courses correctly Jean Baptiste actually turned against Napoleon and joined the allies though?

ze_topazio
07-21-2014, 07:25 PM
I was thinking that through his travels he could be a link between the assassins, even if he's not one himself. For example he could have met Connor in America. Then when he returned from America he traveled in Italy. Perhaps Connor told him something that made him search for something Ezio-related :rolleyes:?




Von Fersen was murdered by an angry mob in 1810. Do I sense they were instigated by the templars :)?

Comet confirmed to be about Connor visiting Rome and Venice.

Hans684
07-21-2014, 08:43 PM
Is he going to have Swiss Army Knife?, if not then there is Norway we are going to have a Swede as an Assassin.

HDinHB
07-22-2014, 01:09 AM
Haha wasn't even aware that there was a vegetable called "swede". But yeah, I rarely eat them, I mostly sleep with the fishes.

On a futon (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S59874504/)?


Is he going to have Swiss Army Knife?, if not then there is Norway we are going to have a Swede as an Assassin.

He's not Finnish yet!