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TAGERT.
09-07-2004, 03:13 AM
Power ON/OFF Dive Tests by moksha

The following plots are from the dive tests performed by moksha.

http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_100_Throttle.jpg

Moksha actually did about 3 tests per plane per power setting. I don't have the ability to do statically averaging of the numbers yet, so out of the three I pick one. Visually they all looked pretty good and I posted the LOG files and EXCEL spread sheets here for anyone that wants to cut and paste in the data from one of the other three.

The planes that were tested are as follows

Fw190D-9 (1945)
Spit-IXE
A6M2
Me262A

Each test starts at 6km and preforms a -22.5? pitch with both power on and power off. The idea is to see the difference power makes and thus get a feel for how much gravity plays into it all.

Here is a link to the graphs for the power OFF tests
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_000_Throttle.pdf

Here is a link to the graphs for the power ON tests
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_100_Throttle.pdf

In summary the first thing I noticed is these tests FURTHER DEBUNKS the "All planes dive the same" theory. An unexpected thing I noticed is that in the power off dive the 190 beats the 262. This is not to imply that is a bug, or that is is accurate, only that I personally didn't expect to see that.

data
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_pwr_on_off_ntrk01.zip
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_pwr_on_off_ntrk02.zip
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_pwr_on_off_ntrk03.zip
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_pwr_on_off_xls.zip

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TAGERT

TAGERT.
09-07-2004, 03:13 AM
Power ON/OFF Dive Tests by moksha

The following plots are from the dive tests performed by moksha.

http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_100_Throttle.jpg

Moksha actually did about 3 tests per plane per power setting. I don't have the ability to do statically averaging of the numbers yet, so out of the three I pick one. Visually they all looked pretty good and I posted the LOG files and EXCEL spread sheets here for anyone that wants to cut and paste in the data from one of the other three.

The planes that were tested are as follows

Fw190D-9 (1945)
Spit-IXE
A6M2
Me262A

Each test starts at 6km and preforms a -22.5? pitch with both power on and power off. The idea is to see the difference power makes and thus get a feel for how much gravity plays into it all.

Here is a link to the graphs for the power OFF tests
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_000_Throttle.pdf

Here is a link to the graphs for the power ON tests
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_100_Throttle.pdf

In summary the first thing I noticed is these tests FURTHER DEBUNKS the "All planes dive the same" theory. An unexpected thing I noticed is that in the power off dive the 190 beats the 262. This is not to imply that is a bug, or that is is accurate, only that I personally didn't expect to see that.

data
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_pwr_on_off_ntrk01.zip
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_pwr_on_off_ntrk02.zip
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_pwr_on_off_ntrk03.zip
http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/divetests/moksha/DT_6k_pwr_on_off_xls.zip

http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/kickme.jpg
TAGERT

moksha
09-09-2004, 03:19 PM
Tagert big THANKS for posting & hosting, been away and not had chance to thank you. A big S! to you.


All,
I'm going to run through the same tests at 62-6 3 degrees to further get a handle for how gravity's model in the game kicks in.



The point of including a6m2 and 262 was to show
extreme ends of diving spectrum bad to good, as Spit and FW sort of similar ie good dive planes (in the most general terms)

How accurate this all is compared to RL is another subject I guess, but would appreciate any hints, feelings suggestions whatever.

Also going to do some roll tests..with without rudder and as close to rolling along a straight perpendicular t as possible..

Cheers

WWMaxGunz
09-09-2004, 04:04 PM
You want the extreme low end then look at the biplanes, the Pzl... then Stuka and Sturmo.

moksha
09-09-2004, 05:02 PM
WWmaXg-good idea, ty & will do.

clint-ruin
09-10-2004, 08:18 AM
More excellent work. This is how all posts in here should be set out. Thanks guys.

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