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XyZspineZyX
08-14-2003, 04:39 AM
Just got my computer back with the $200 US I spent so I could play FB. From someone who has been playing IL2 daily for 6 months. I gotta say Im not impressed with FB.

Even after downloading patch, the sound sucks. I can't hear my flaps go down, the stupid horn is too loud, cannot hear the air rushing when flaps are engaged. When I land, I don't hear any feedback from wheels hitting the ground. the brakes sound like a squeeling pig. All these sounds are fantastic with IL2. How can you guys stand it? I was expecting a huge improvement over IL2. Im kinda sorry I spent the money to upgrade my rig. If it werent for the fact that I love playing online and everyone it seems plays FB online, I never would have bothered with FB. Its tough to get the feeling of immersion with FB like I had with IL2. The graphics are and improvement over IL2, but overall, FB feels more arcadish compared to IL2.

Im hoping the more I play the more Ill get used to the crap sound.

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XyZspineZyX
08-14-2003, 04:39 AM
Just got my computer back with the $200 US I spent so I could play FB. From someone who has been playing IL2 daily for 6 months. I gotta say Im not impressed with FB.

Even after downloading patch, the sound sucks. I can't hear my flaps go down, the stupid horn is too loud, cannot hear the air rushing when flaps are engaged. When I land, I don't hear any feedback from wheels hitting the ground. the brakes sound like a squeeling pig. All these sounds are fantastic with IL2. How can you guys stand it? I was expecting a huge improvement over IL2. Im kinda sorry I spent the money to upgrade my rig. If it werent for the fact that I love playing online and everyone it seems plays FB online, I never would have bothered with FB. Its tough to get the feeling of immersion with FB like I had with IL2. The graphics are and improvement over IL2, but overall, FB feels more arcadish compared to IL2.

Im hoping the more I play the more Ill get used to the crap sound.

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caccia buon!

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:17 AM
Hiya!

Personally, I didn't find FB 'arcadish' after playing IL2, but it definitely had a different feel.

My overall impression was that I liked IL2 more in some areas but FB was better in others. I also reminded myself that I was comparing a fully patched IL2 with an initial release FB.

I felt that FB, if not already better, definitely had the potential to be better when suitably patched. I've not yet managed to download the patch myself (my first attempt timed out).

Judging by most of the feedback I've seen from others, v1.1b seems to be pretty good.

Best regards,
panther3485

Cpt.LoneRanger
08-15-2003, 11:27 AM
Yes, FB feel different in many ways, than IL2, but most things I noticed are a lot better now, than in the original IL2.

The mistake most people make is to compare the fully patched IL2 to the initial IL2FB.

Besides that, most of the issues with the patch I heared of, are not really THAT important and a LOT depends on how you set up your machine. The flap-thing is for sure a set-up problem. People should try different settings and if everything fails, there are a lot of open ears to hear what you did and give you advice what else to try out.

There are just too many fellas in this forum, who just complain and never think of the possibility, that they could change the setup options for themselves.


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michapma
08-15-2003, 11:46 AM
panther3485 wrote:
- I felt that FB, if not already better, definitely
- had the potential to be better when suitably
- patched. I've not yet managed to download the patch
- myself (my first attempt timed out).


Hi, why don't you try downloading it from my site:
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/technical.htm

Mike

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

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69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 02:51 PM
After getting into FB, I definately think it has potential. I like the variety of aircraft. But FB needs work. Muzzle flashes are rediculous. The bf-109 flap horn sounds like a u-boat. If they could put IL2s sound in FB I think we would have a perfect sim.

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 03:16 PM
mike_espo wrote:
- After getting into FB, I definately think it has
- potential. I like the variety of aircraft. But FB
- needs work. Muzzle flashes are rediculous. The
- bf-109 flap horn sounds like a u-boat. If they could
- put IL2s sound in FB I think we would have a perfect
- sim.

I have to agree with ya Mike, especially the last nugget. The other stuff is minor IMHO but the last one is the ultimate stake in the heart. If they did something as simple as swap air files between the final patched version of the original IL-2 with the current game, money. It would be so nice to have stable working sound.

XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 03:23 PM
stubby wrote:
I have to agree with ya Mike, especially the last
- nugget. The other stuff is minor IMHO but the last
- one is the ultimate stake in the heart. If they did
- something as simple as swap air files between the
- final patched version of the original IL-2 with the
- current game, money. It would be so nice to have
- stable working sound.

Can they do that? Why can't they use IL2s sound engine in FB?
-


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