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RAF_Lyneham
01-12-2004, 08:22 AM
Right i've just got FB and so far it all looks good. I have a few questions - firstly i'm keen to come online but don't want to be a sitting duck for every ace out there.
1. What settings should i learn with offline so i'm prepared when i come online?
2. I have X45 whats the best profile for me to use? and where?
3. What a/c should I start with and opt for online?
4. I'm playing with graphics maxed offline - will this be an advantage or disadvantage online?
5. I have just been playing with the Pacific campaign and the first mission is 8 P40's (my squadron) against 16 Japanese a/c (A3m or A6M i forget). My entire squandron is shot down in about two minutes with me lasting the longest and normally managing to shoot down one or two enemies - are my guys just really bad or am I doing something wrong or is this normal?
6. If playing offline (possibly online) what do you do when you run out of ammo - do you just go back to home base and hope your squadron completes the objective or do you make stick with your wingmen.

Any other things you guys can think of that I should know fill me in. Hope to see you in the skies soon.

P4 2.8Ghz
1024 MB DDR RAM
ATI RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB
60G HD
Win XP HE
Audigy 2
Saitek X45

RAF_Lyneham
01-12-2004, 08:22 AM
Right i've just got FB and so far it all looks good. I have a few questions - firstly i'm keen to come online but don't want to be a sitting duck for every ace out there.
1. What settings should i learn with offline so i'm prepared when i come online?
2. I have X45 whats the best profile for me to use? and where?
3. What a/c should I start with and opt for online?
4. I'm playing with graphics maxed offline - will this be an advantage or disadvantage online?
5. I have just been playing with the Pacific campaign and the first mission is 8 P40's (my squadron) against 16 Japanese a/c (A3m or A6M i forget). My entire squandron is shot down in about two minutes with me lasting the longest and normally managing to shoot down one or two enemies - are my guys just really bad or am I doing something wrong or is this normal?
6. If playing offline (possibly online) what do you do when you run out of ammo - do you just go back to home base and hope your squadron completes the objective or do you make stick with your wingmen.

Any other things you guys can think of that I should know fill me in. Hope to see you in the skies soon.

P4 2.8Ghz
1024 MB DDR RAM
ATI RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB
60G HD
Win XP HE
Audigy 2
Saitek X45

HansKnappstick
01-12-2004, 08:43 AM
Welcome!

Once you get online you _will_ be a sitting duck for everyone. I still am.

Good Luck anyway, and practice it the hard way.

bazzaah2
01-12-2004, 08:47 AM
I got to grips with the basics offline before I ventured online. learn to take off and land etc.

Settings - just experiment and find your own preference. plenty of servers on HL - ubi.com too.

Yes, your (AI) guys are really bad.

Planes - IL2 is good to learn in as are the Russian ones genereally.

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Crashing online as :FI:SpinyNorman

RAF_Lyneham
01-12-2004, 10:52 AM
bump

P4 2.8Ghz
1024 MB DDR RAM
ATI RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB
60G HD
Win XP HE
Audigy 2
Saitek X45

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-12-2004, 11:44 AM
1. for going online, first download the hyperlobby software from www.hyperfighter.jinak.cz (http://www.hyperfighter.jinak.cz) after that, you can choose to enter dogfight rooms with a wide variety of difficulty settings. The only good advice, try to practise offline on one or two particular aircraft. You can fly and fight better if you know the aircraft you are in.

2. There are various X45 templates available on the net. BY far the most complex one can be downloaded from the website bt 'adlabs' sorry, I don't have a link. However, I recommend you make an own profile. One that suits your personal needs.

3. For some quick kills, try one of the La-7's or a later YAK version. If you want to really learn something, take one of the later BF-109's or any FW-190. the latter planes, are more difficult to be succesfull with. Not a whine, just a fact. Above all, learn to shoot efficient instead of just spray your bullets and pray that you hit something. Set your convergence range to 150meters and try to hit the enemy at that distance. You can learn the most by flying difficult A/C.

4. a disadvantage. I dunno but, maxed graphics have a tendacy to stutter and maybe, cause the game to lag. In offline play, I max-up the graphics but, in online play, it is adviced to lower the level a bit, for smoother play. Also, with smaller resolutions, (1024 or lower) shows aircraft more far-away then with higher resolutions.

5. Quite normal I think. The P-40 isn't that good of a plane and the Zero's have a nice punch, with the 20mm guns. Also, the Zero's outnumber you by 2 to 1.

6. Offline: it rarely happens to me but, if you run out of ammo, head back to base (preferably with your AI wingmen) land and end the mission.

Online: much the same, except you must choose "refly". Your airplane will be refuelled, re armed and ready to go.


Furthermore, you should realy read the manual and study the quick reference card a bit. Much things can be learned from there. Furthermore, read the unofficial FAQ here: http://www.mudmovers.com/sturmovik_101/FAQ.htm

and check out the rest of the site.

for aditional skins, go to www.il2skins.com (http://www.il2skins.com). Close to 8000(!) skins online there. All waiting for you to download them!

Happy flying! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.

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JG27_Dacripler
01-12-2004, 11:51 AM
Sounds like you found the aircraft that you enjoy!! Fly them all and have a great time. you will see each ones particular strengths and weakneses. Vid settings depend on your game play, if the game looks like scrambled eggs you need to relax the settings. Keep things simple and look at the screen to see what the other guy is flying, that gives you a guesstimate of which planes are tooted as the best. Closed cockpits to start then Open/Closed afterward for enjoyment.(I learned backwards and my game has sufffered) Always work from the hardest to the easiest to get the sharpest learning curve, If its tough? Great you are learning! If it is easy and you proclaim victory too soon you are already learning bad habits.
Look for the best players in any room either closed and open and challenge them. Don't be afraid (virtual death is easy) and besides being pounded into submission on a daily dose is called Humility and it GOOD for YOU! Take your *** kickings like a fellow pilot and accept them. As for those *** kickings with motivation can be returned. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Simple rules:
1)You are not the best

2)You can be the best

3)When you think you're the best you are already second best.

4)Learning is forever.

This is a "Game" But soon you will find its gifts are far greater than flying which is called: "The Community"

Welcome Aboard !!

carguy_
01-12-2004, 11:55 AM
Firstly you can`t let them to discourage you.You`re just cannonfodder now,but you`ll start getting nice kills after a few months. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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GoodKn1ght
01-12-2004, 01:45 PM
LA7 (3xB20) 1944

Old_Canuck
01-12-2004, 01:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HansKnappstick:
Welcome!

Once you get online you _will_ be a sitting duck for everyone. I still am.

Good Luck anyway, and practice it the hard way.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Another bit of advice ... find some friends to fly with on a regular basis in private coops or in a squadron so you'll have some friendlies you can visit when you need to lick your wounds and get some encouragement.

My confidence level has gone up a notch since I started flying with HansKnappstick, NorrisMcwhirter and Zephyr.

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

Doc_Hollydayz
01-12-2004, 04:25 PM
Is it possible/advisable to play online using a modem or is it better to have broadband? RTCW and MOH are a pain if played with a modem. Is it the same with IL2?

crazyivan1970
01-12-2004, 04:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Doc_Hollydayz:
Is it possible/advisable to play online using a modem or is it better to have broadband? RTCW and MOH are a pain if played with a modem. Is it the same with IL2?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Broadband is better, but modem is acceptable too. If you on the decent server it shouldn`t be a problem.

V!
Regards,

VFC*Crazyivan aka VFC*HOST

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-13-2004, 08:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Doc_Hollydayz:
Is it possible/advisable to play online using a modem or is it better to have broadband? RTCW and MOH are a pain if played with a modem. Is it the same with IL2?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Broadband is better, but modem is acceptable too. If you on the decent server it shouldn`t be a problem.

V!
Regards,

VFC*Crazyivan aka VFC*HOST

http://www.rmutt.netfirms.com/ivan-reaper.gif

Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Crazy Ivan can tell, be sure http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.

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RAF_Lyneham
01-13-2004, 10:15 AM
Well cheers for your advice peeps - I'm on broadband so thats good.

On the issue of picking a a/c as I am British i'm urging to go with the hurricane and probably move to the spitfire when the add-on pack comes out - is this a good or bad choice?

P4 2.8Ghz
1024 MB DDR RAM
ATI RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB
60G HD
Win XP HE
Audigy 2
Saitek X45

NorrisMcWhirter
01-13-2004, 10:29 AM
Hi,

Roger to what has been said already. The best way to get better online is to fly online. Expect to have a regular pasting before matters improve...then still expect to get a regular pasting but with a few kills of your own thrown in for good measure.

In terms of graphics settings, try to check your FPS, online, by getting the console up (shift TAB?), then type

FPS START SHOW &lt;return&gt;

If you are getting 40 (average) and above, you are doing alright with your settings. It's hairy enough online as it is without having a low frame rate - my kill improved considerably after getting a new graphics card.

I'd recommend choosing cockpit off servers at first because you can use the icons to overcome the loss of situational awareness/peripheral vision; use the icons to deduce how best to shake off your attacker and/or cause them to overshoot. When you fly cockpit on, you will then find that these techniques, for the most part, are the same.

Good luck,
Norris

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HansKnappstick:
Welcome!

Once you get online you _will_ be a sitting duck for everyone. I still am.

Good Luck anyway, and practice it the hard way.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Another bit of advice ... find some friends to fly with on a regular basis in private coops or in a squadron so you'll have some friendlies you can visit when you need to lick your wounds and get some encouragement.

My confidence level has gone up a notch since I started flying with HansKnappstick, NorrisMcwhirter and Zephyr.

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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RAF_Lyneham
01-13-2004, 10:38 AM
Ok one other thing - I guess that to effectively join a squad and play online i'll need to get voice recognition. Any suggestions on hardware/software

P4 2.8Ghz
1024 MB DDR RAM
ATI RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB
60G HD
Win XP HE
Audigy 2
Saitek X45

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-13-2004, 11:39 AM
Usually, the squad indicates which software to use. The most common Voice comm programms are "roger wilco" and "teamspeak"

Teamspeak can be downloaded ad www.teamspeak.org (http://www.teamspeak.org) Go for the 'client' version. Also, get a headset or a mic for speaking.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.

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crazyivan1970
01-13-2004, 11:40 AM
Or Ventrilo: http://www.ventrilo.com/

V!
Regards,

VFC*Crazyivan aka VFC*HOST

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Udidtoo
01-13-2004, 11:54 AM
I know this wasn't part of your questions but I think one piece of advice that is sadly overlooked far to often is dealing with the neglected spouse/girlfriend/life partner.

I find that jewlery and pricy perfumes save me a lot of the evil glares, foot tappings and the ever populer "" Are you going to get ready? We have to be there in 1 hour. "" There are many variations on this last one and almost all can be avoided with the proper amount of bribery and outright butt kissing. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


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I always have just enough fuel to arrive at the scene of my crash.

AirBot
01-13-2004, 02:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>1. What settings should i learn with offline so i'm prepared when i come online?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whatever settings you like. If you're a sim-junky, Full-Real or thereabouts is probably right up your alley (things like the speedbar are often necessary to compensate for certain things lacking in the sim). Anyway, feel free to use any settings you like - you can usually find a good server running the kind of settings you prefer.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>3. What a/c should I start with and opt for online?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

La-7, La-5, Yaks are the easiest planes to fly. These are all superb machines from the later parts of the war, and can usually give any Luftwaffe jockey a hard time.
Hurricane, P-40, B-239 are all good planes, but somewhat slow compared to the enemy 109s and 190s. You'll want to grab some altitude with these, but once there they are awesome machines (the P-40 especially is a great plane, and the B-239 is an amazing turner with great guns and a decent speed).

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>4. I'm playing with graphics maxed offline - will this be an advantage or disadvantage online?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If your PC is good enough to handle anything the game throws with it without stutter, it should be fine. But since I'm not sure such a PC even exists, it's probably best to lower the detail a bit to maintain good framerate throughout.
Also, lower resolutions (and possibly detail levels, though I'm not sure) will make it easier to spot enemy planes. This isn't an issue when playing on a server with enemy icons enabled, but you'll want to consider lowering it a bit for servers where enemy icons are off.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>5. I have just been playing with the Pacific campaign and the first mission is 8 P40's (my squadron) against 16 Japanese a/c (A3m or A6M i forget). My entire squandron is shot down in about two minutes with me lasting the longest and normally managing to shoot down one or two enemies - are my guys just really bad or am I doing something wrong or is this normal?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

AI tends to try and Turn and Burn (TnB) no matter the situation. Since the Japanese planes are better turners than the P-40, this won't end well.
If you Boom and Zoom them with your Warhawk though, you won't have much problems. But this is a tactic that works better online than off.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>6. If playing offline (possibly online) what do you do when you run out of ammo - do you just go back to home base and hope your squadron completes the objective or do you make stick with your wingmen.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think it's best to just push off home. No sense in hanging around and risking your neck if you can't do any damage anyway.


Hope I helped. Welcome to this great game and I wish you enjoy your time online!

Fillmore
01-13-2004, 04:56 PM
"5. I have just been playing with the Pacific campaign and the first mission is 8 P40's (my squadron) against 16 Japanese a/c (A3m or A6M i forget). My entire squandron is shot down in about two minutes with me lasting the longest and normally managing to shoot down one or two enemies - are my guys just really bad or am I doing something wrong or is this normal?"

Yes to all three http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"6. If playing offline (possibly online) what do you do when you run out of ammo - do you just go back to home base and hope your squadron completes the objective or do you make stick with your wingmen."

online you land and respawn. Offline you should not be running out of ammo in most planes (especially not P40s. Yaks ok to run out). Don't go online until your gunnery is good enough get multiple kills w/o running out of ammo is my advice.

"On the issue of picking a a/c as I am British i'm urging to go with the hurricane and probably move to the spitfire when the add-on pack comes out - is this a good or bad choice?"

Hurricane is junk, don't bother (unless you are only fighting 109E-4 in which case it is merely inferior), wait for the Spit and fly some VVS planes in the meantime (LAs are the best, P39 and some Yaks are ok. the '43 LaGG is ok too).

AirBot
01-15-2004, 08:49 AM
Actually the hurri is pretty good if you gain some alt and use it to BnZ these 109s. It has no problems with diving like the Russian birds have, and it's an awesome turner if you get into trouble.

I'm bored, so I'm bumping dead threads http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fillmore:
"5. I have just been playing with the Pacific campaign and the first mission is 8 P40's (my squadron) against 16 Japanese a/c (A3m or A6M i forget). My entire squandron is shot down in about two minutes with me lasting the longest and normally managing to shoot down one or two enemies - are my guys just really bad or am I doing something wrong or is this normal?"

Yes to all three http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"6. If playing offline (possibly online) what do you do when you run out of ammo - do you just go back to home base and hope your squadron completes the objective or do you make stick with your wingmen."

online you land and respawn. Offline you should not be running out of ammo in most planes (especially not P40s. Yaks ok to run out). Don't go online until your gunnery is good enough get multiple kills w/o running out of ammo is my advice.

"On the issue of picking a a/c as I am British i'm urging to go with the hurricane and probably move to the spitfire when the add-on pack comes out - is this a good or bad choice?"

Hurricane is junk, don't bother (unless you are only fighting 109E-4 in which case it is merely inferior), wait for the Spit and fly some VVS planes in the meantime (LAs are the best, P39 and some Yaks are ok. the '43 LaGG is ok too).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im-Luvin-Pies
01-15-2004, 09:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAF_Lyneham:
Right i've just got FB and so far it all looks good. I have a few questions - firstly i'm keen to come online but don't want to be a sitting duck for every ace out there.
1. What settings should i learn with offline so i'm prepared when i come online?
2. I have X45 whats the best profile for me to use? and where?
3. What a/c should I start with and opt for online?
4. I'm playing with graphics maxed offline - will this be an advantage or disadvantage online?
5. I have just been playing with the Pacific campaign and the first mission is 8 P40's (my squadron) against 16 Japanese a/c (A3m or A6M i forget). My entire squandron is shot down in about two minutes with me lasting the longest and normally managing to shoot down one or two enemies - are my guys just really bad or am I doing something wrong or is this normal?
6. If playing offline (possibly online) what do you do when you run out of ammo - do you just go back to home base and hope your squadron completes the objective or do you make stick with your wingmen.

Any other things you guys can think of that I should know fill me in. Hope to see you in the skies soon.

P4 2.8Ghz
1024 MB DDR RAM
ATI RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB
60G HD
Win XP HE
Audigy 2
Saitek X45<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Firstly, sack the offline gameplay, its ****, and it wont teach u anythin about playing a real pilot online wholl kik ur *** if ur used to offline.

secondly online play is a BAZILLION times better. I went straight online and got my *** kicked for months before getting any good. You should do it too, its fun!!

X45- I have one, but i dont use profiles so dunno.

Aircraft - Start with something thats hard to stall, i would say hurricane or the zero. they are newby planes that are unstallable, ie yank the stick back and they dont spin. AFter mastering those go on to the la7, its a good alrounder easy to fly, but snap stalls a bit a lower speeds. Also yak3 is a killer. Dont bother with late german planes they overheat too much, and you have to boom and zoom with them which requires patience and skill. Not my style.

Graphics - Play on a low detail as poss, the lower the res, the bigger the dots are for full real but dont lower it so much it looks like a spectrum.


happy shooting (ONLINE!)

pies.

I_LUV_PIES!!

oFZo
01-15-2004, 10:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NorrisMcWhirter:

If you are getting 40 (average) and above, you are doing alright with your settings. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The human eye can only see 25 fps, IMHO higher is just as good but not better http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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