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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 09:55 PM
I just stop playing on hyperlobby for this evening!

Wow ma, I count at least 4 rooms where the guys where playing the beta test08.
Damn, on 220 people there tonight , 30 where playing a different version.

That send me to 2 conclusions;

-The beta test guys are leaking more than my sister panties, cause everyone got that beta vers already(me included)

-Tells you how bad the players want the patch!

I DL the beta on an open discution on a topic in the general discution.So It very easy to get it and like Oleg said, the leakers better take care!


WHat I also want to discuss is the famous patch!

great improvement, the game is harder now but there are things that get worse than in the past.

Me262 top speed is reduced wich is a shame! I used to do some aerobatics with the swalbe and for this I enter a loop at 500kmh Now I can barely do it at 550 and I got no speed on top of loop.
THE fw190 is great but the wing drop comes too soon even in smooth maneuvers and the top speed is rediculous, I got 400kmh with 3/4 fuel mw50 and 110percent at see level thats way under the 520 the beast can do
also, needles are slugish as hell specially the vario that might be clauged somewhere

I m not complaining at all (Im not in position to do this , I feel guilty to have download the beta) but I hope the final patch will still see some great improvements compared to beta08 and I think it will


Oleg, thanks again for your dedication to the sim comunauty

regards

XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 09:55 PM
I just stop playing on hyperlobby for this evening!

Wow ma, I count at least 4 rooms where the guys where playing the beta test08.
Damn, on 220 people there tonight , 30 where playing a different version.

That send me to 2 conclusions;

-The beta test guys are leaking more than my sister panties, cause everyone got that beta vers already(me included)

-Tells you how bad the players want the patch!

I DL the beta on an open discution on a topic in the general discution.So It very easy to get it and like Oleg said, the leakers better take care!


WHat I also want to discuss is the famous patch!

great improvement, the game is harder now but there are things that get worse than in the past.

Me262 top speed is reduced wich is a shame! I used to do some aerobatics with the swalbe and for this I enter a loop at 500kmh Now I can barely do it at 550 and I got no speed on top of loop.
THE fw190 is great but the wing drop comes too soon even in smooth maneuvers and the top speed is rediculous, I got 400kmh with 3/4 fuel mw50 and 110percent at see level thats way under the 520 the beast can do
also, needles are slugish as hell specially the vario that might be clauged somewhere

I m not complaining at all (Im not in position to do this , I feel guilty to have download the beta) but I hope the final patch will still see some great improvements compared to beta08 and I think it will


Oleg, thanks again for your dedication to the sim comunauty

regards

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 12:52 AM
re tested the dora9 and got the right value but took a while
the 262 is good for nothing in the patched version except to practice 1 eng out landing!
it now have no speed, turn like a truck and got a lot lot lot of energy degradation
That plane was known to be an energy keeper( as long as you dont play the fool)

regards

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 02:02 AM
I tried a couple of rooms. Pretty much a one plane sim. Dora chases Dora. Cant catch Dora in anything else. Dora cant hurt Dora unless it turns. YAWN

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 04:49 AM
easymo wrote:
- I tried a couple of rooms. Pretty much a one plane
- sim. Dora chases Dora. Cant catch Dora in anything
- else. Dora cant hurt Dora unless it turns. YAWN
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We need a Hawker Tempest in there to make things more interesting. Any word on the status of that plane...last I saw the damage models were done and the cockpit was darn close...

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 05:32 PM
EK262_LIONOGER wrote:
- re tested the dora9 and got the right value but took
- a while
- the 262 is good for nothing in the patched version
- except to practice 1 eng out landing!
- it now have no speed, turn like a truck and got a
- lot lot lot of energy degradation
- That plane was known to be an energy keeper( as long
- as you dont play the fool)
-
- regards
-
-
-

This is real good to heard, it sounds like you will need skill to fly the me262, what is what most of the jet pilots lack off, it is more realistic, no plane was able to fly match one on level flight as the me262 does in fb



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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 06:18 PM
I wonder when how long this tread is going to be here be4 it gets LOCKED/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I bet not long/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 06:22 PM
Any info about the 109 Email climb rate?

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 06:26 PM
LEXX_Luthor wrote:
- Any info about the 109 Email climb rate?
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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 06:34 PM
oleg86 wroted::
- SUCKS , as it must be

Well that's very helpful oleg. Thanks a lot pal. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Hey, if Me~262 is made as discussed here, perhaps they won't BAN it from the games anymore. There are reports of World War 2 prop pilots firing a hopeless long distance shot at an escaping 262 and the 262 pilot panics and starts turning and...hehehe...Maybe this real life tactic will work in the internet too. Yes!

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 06:47 PM
Oleg86 -- an example of why some peoples children should not be allowed on the forum. They disrupt for fun and belong in some sort of playpens.


Neal

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 09:52 PM
actually, wasn`t it an authorised leak ? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
this way Oleg can find out what the reaction to patch will be and still tweak some issues before final release. Thus whining will be less on final release (as there always will be some, no way...). Kinda controlled market test.

P.S. bit of conspiracy theory but who knows, I`d do that...I`m a marketeer/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 09:11 PM
EK262_LIONOGER wrote:
- re tested the dora9 and got the right value but took
- a while
- the 262 is good for nothing in the patched version
- except to practice 1 eng out landing!
- it now have no speed, turn like a truck and got a
- lot lot lot of energy degradation
- That plane was known to be an energy keeper( as long
- as you dont play the fool)
-
- regards
-
-
-
-

What do you mean this plane is useless? There's nothing like tearing through a bomber formation at 750 K.P.H. and those big guns blowing those bombers out of the sky with a very short burst. The p-51 escorts couldn't catch me as I downed half the formation. Unfortunatly, I had to be severly demoted to ditch digger because I couldn't slow the b**** down in time to land.



Message Edited on 07/23/0308:12PM by ColoradoBBQ

XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 09:45 PM
colorado,

I am a big fan of the me262

but my point was that It was a greater energy keeper in the box version and that it now suks

for example, a simple loop started at 500kph was smooth and u reach the top at 300-350 if u stay constant in your pull (aroubd 3-4g's)

now( 08) try to doo the same and the plane start to shake directelly and loose much much more enregy than previously

You can not turn as hard as in 1.0 ( I was pulling hard and black out but plane reacted normally now, it shakes and stall before you black out!)

with the box version, I knew there were some isues about planes, some justified some not but one plane that behave correctly was the 262. what a wonder, if u pulled too abruptly, you would have blacked out instantelly so you had to be smooth and thats why I loved the plane so much in fb1.0 but now, you dont feel that smoothness anymore

I dont know why they modiffy it so much , too bad, the charm has gone!

XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 10:43 PM
The entire physics for the sim engine in FB 1.1 beta08 is borked...

P-47 feels like a lead balloon filled with helium...floats and sinks in very strange ways...has a strange tendancy to fall into flat spins when stalled.

The 262 feels like it has compressed air propulsion...very BIG difference from initial release, which of course was modeled incorrectly with too much drag on non-operational turbines.

But, the whole thing feels like an experiment in pushing the physics in a different (albeit wrong) direction.

Oh yeah, the game locks up on perfect settings, whereas my 9700 Pro runs perfect with 2.5 CATS very well in FB 1.0

If this is any indication what the FINAL FB 1.1 patch is gonna be like...were all in for some BIG troubles. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Cheers,

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Message Edited on 07/23/0305:44PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 07:14 AM
There's no problem with leaking betas for a game that is already made. The Doom alpha link for example was wrong because it was not copy righted or their 3D engine was not patented or something; that can lead to programers stealing the software code which is simply c++ stuff.
The problem here is that the beta testers were mature people who have knowledge and experience of games and know about the basics of plane physics and such (Im really guessing). In other words they don't come here and b*tch about a beta, they come here and say it works like this and that (Oleg and his team will decide if those facts coinside with realism in real life) and if they have documents and resources disproving a feature or whatever in the beta then they can argue it.
No generalities based on ignorance.