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Jagdgeschwader2
04-13-2004, 12:55 AM
In FB on most aircraft lowering your landing gear at high speed will cause it to become jammed for obvious reasons. The Corsair on the other hand had its dive brakes attached to its main landing gear. Even if deployed at a speed higher than 225 knots which is listed as the proper deployment speed for dive brakes it would not jam. The tail wheel would remain retracted when the dive brakes were employed. I hope this will be modeled for the Corsair. I suppose there will need to be a change to the damage model for this aircraft. This should come in handy for bombing the IJN. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif Looks to be a well armored bird as well.


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Jagdgeschwader2
04-13-2004, 12:55 AM
In FB on most aircraft lowering your landing gear at high speed will cause it to become jammed for obvious reasons. The Corsair on the other hand had its dive brakes attached to its main landing gear. Even if deployed at a speed higher than 225 knots which is listed as the proper deployment speed for dive brakes it would not jam. The tail wheel would remain retracted when the dive brakes were employed. I hope this will be modeled for the Corsair. I suppose there will need to be a change to the damage model for this aircraft. This should come in handy for bombing the IJN. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif Looks to be a well armored bird as well.


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ckur
04-13-2004, 03:50 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that these divebrakes first appeared in F4U-4 model, not in the earlier models.

Also would be interesting to know if the cowling flaps and the drag they caused will be modelled. Also they limited some visibility.

The flaps were automated in F4U-5s and pilots reported that it was difficult to fly formation because when these opened to cool the engine they caused so much drag that one fell behond the lead aircraft.

stansdds
04-13-2004, 06:26 PM
The dive brakes were installed on all Corsairs as far as I know. They had to be extened at speeds of no more than 260 knots (270 on the -5) and should not be retracted at speeds above 350 knots.

The automatic cowl flaps did make flying the -5 in formation difficult, but the automatic supercharger control made it even more of a challenge.

luthier1
04-13-2004, 06:30 PM
In other words, -5 was a giant failure hated by all pilots http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If I remember correctly, the designers also cleverly moved the R/T button and replaced it with the drop tank jettison button?

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VW-IceFire
04-13-2004, 09:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by luthier1:
In other words, -5 was a giant failure hated by all pilots http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If I remember correctly, the designers also cleverly moved the R/T button and replaced it with the drop tank jettison button?

http://www.il2center.com/PF.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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ckur
04-15-2004, 03:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stansdds:
The automatic cowl flaps did make flying the -5 in formation difficult, but the automatic supercharger control made it even more of a challenge.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Up to a point that when climbing the pilots split formations around 18000 feet and rejoined at 22000 because they did not know when the supercharger system would kick in (it was expected to kick in around 20000).

For the PF, will there be a manual control of the two stage supercharger of the earlier models?

Jagdgeschwader2
04-15-2004, 05:22 AM
Yep the -5 had lots of problems. From the Warbird Tech Series book:The -5's throttle
was controlled by oil pressure rather than by a mechanical linkage and a few days after the first planes arrived ,plane captains made an unwelcome discovery. After starting the engines for a routine warmup,several aircraft developed serious power surges,causing the Corsairs to jump their chocks and collide with other aircraft parked ahead of them. It was noticed that a cold front had passed the previous evening,causing the oil in the hydraulic linkage to congeal while the throttle setting remained at its previous position,regardless of the plane captain's actions. Later Pratt&Whitney replaced the linkage with a mechanical unit. Other problems involved operating the engine at power settings as high as 75 inches of manifold pressure,and the use of 145-octane fuel. The -5 also gave problems operationaly.
The five inch longer fusealge of the -5 resulted in nose heaviness which caused damage in off center carrier landings. VF-23 had especially bad luck during Coral Sea's (CVB-43)
shakedown cruise in 1948. The resultant warped fuselages and popped rivets reduced the squadron to only three flying aircraft in a few weeks.

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IV_JG51_Razor
04-15-2004, 02:35 PM
"A speck of dirt on your windscreen could turn into an enemy fighter in the time it took to look round and back again. A little smear on your goggles might hide the plane that was coming in to kill you.
Derek Robinson
From the book Piece of Cake."

A most EXCELLENT read!! Anyone who enjoys reading about WWII air combat should pick up this book. You will notice a lot of the movie "Battle of Britain" in it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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