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El Turo
09-12-2004, 11:10 PM
So, a buddy of mine bought a TIR3 and never really got in the groove with it, and has lent it to me for a couple of weeks while he's on vacation to see if I like it.

I've got the basics done, but I'm still a bit jittery and having a hard time getting used to flying/SHOOTING with the tracker enabled (using enhanced mode).

Is it just a time thing to get used to it? Are there specific settings I should be thinking about modifying to make things less sensitive and jittery?

I find that I'm getting a bit disorientated and trying to fire while the gunsite is in the lower left hand corner (or something like that).

Help?

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El Turo
09-12-2004, 11:10 PM
So, a buddy of mine bought a TIR3 and never really got in the groove with it, and has lent it to me for a couple of weeks while he's on vacation to see if I like it.

I've got the basics done, but I'm still a bit jittery and having a hard time getting used to flying/SHOOTING with the tracker enabled (using enhanced mode).

Is it just a time thing to get used to it? Are there specific settings I should be thinking about modifying to make things less sensitive and jittery?

I find that I'm getting a bit disorientated and trying to fire while the gunsite is in the lower left hand corner (or something like that).

Help?

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BaldieJr
09-12-2004, 11:32 PM
Do yourself a favor and learn the software. I'm not saying that I think you haven't already, I'm merely making a point.

A lot of people never take time to learn the software and therefore never get to experience the best part of the device: its natural feel.

You'll find that its too sensitive at first.
Later you'll find that it requires more up/down input than side input.
As you get better, you'll find the smoothing to be annoying.

As you discover these things, you'll want to know how to overcome them. Knowing the software is key.

ooops

Lunix
09-13-2004, 01:55 AM
A real big deadzone to start and not very sensitive. Go to adjust the edit points and unselect the "group" thingy and give yourself a large gentle deadzone to start. Personally I hated it at first but ended up getting used to it faster than I do a new stick...

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Back_Loop
09-13-2004, 02:47 AM
also if you have any buttons left on your joystick I recommend mapping the "center" command to one of these.

IAFS_Painter
09-13-2004, 06:42 AM
You don't need a true dead-zone - just to slow it down a little.

This is what I used when learning:
http://www.robert-stuart.me.uk/il2/downloads/TrackIR.gif


If you have the joystick keys available ...

1) Set up a key to disable TIR on the joystick (f9).
Use this to switch the TIR off when lining up to shoot, or to land.
(You can lose this one later)

2) Set up one key to do both:
Center TIR (f12) AND center view (num-pad 5)
The reasoning here is that one action has the same effect, whether or no TIR is enabled.

Make sure you have the current driver (v3.12) from www.naturalpoint.com (http://www.naturalpoint.com) .
v3.10 will do, (I had a few problems with v3.11)

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SeaFireLIV
09-13-2004, 06:55 AM
Well, I had loads of adjusting problems at first and listened to all kinds of advice. But when I tried the `Deadzone` it suddenly became much easier. The view stopped still when I looked forward but moved when I actually turned my head right/left a little more. Kept speed at around 20-25 and full smoothing ON.

After 2 weeks I went onto Linear (no deadzone) up the speed to 35 and never looked back since. Just my experience, but everyone`s different. Oh yes, the F12 is ESSENTIAL to adjust your view as need on the fly because you tend to move your chair/ monitor at times. F9 also very useful for switching off TIR temporarily in game if out of plane and just want to watch the other fights. That`s it.

My worry is what`ll happen if you do get attached to it (as you will if it clicks) and your friend wants it back?

VMF513_Sandman
09-13-2004, 07:45 AM
also helps to have more reflective surface for the unit to pick up on. walmart has reflective tape cheap. just add enough tape that it just covers the tip of the mic and it's ready. i have mine at about 2' from me. np's here. need to get used to lookin at the gunsite with ur eyes. u move ur head...eyes stay in front.

T_O_A_D
09-13-2004, 10:06 AM
Read the link in my sig abot TIR it may have a few things to help.

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
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1.JaVA_Hornet
09-13-2004, 10:39 AM
Find the naturalpoint site and download
the profiles for il2fb.

There must be a profile that you like.

It prevent much work.

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Old_Canuck
09-13-2004, 10:48 AM
An audio-visual-technician buddy made an infrared diode to mount on the end of my boom mike. It's solid now. Got the original TIR and still happy with it. Still using TOAD's old profile that he posted ages ago and see no reason to switch that either. Just an old stuck-in-the-mud I reckon. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

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El Turo
09-13-2004, 02:00 PM
Thanks for the advice, fellas. I'll check out the newest driver (didn't think of that), and I'll check out some pre-defined setups as well.

I've farted around with the deadzone and speed so that it is very, very low all the way out to the 20-30 range.. but it still seems a little bit unnatural when I'm trying to track a bandit. Maybe I move around too much in my chair, I dunno.

I've found that the metallic dot-stickers that came with the packaging are very good for tracking. I have one stuck to the brim of my hat and it works perfectly. MUCH better than the old webcam approach that I tried previously.. a HUGE improvement in fidelity for sure. The enhanced mode is even better.

Also, my buddy wants to sell the unit to me if I like it.. hence why I need to give it a fair try-out and attempt to get used to it.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
09-13-2004, 04:20 PM
It took me three tries and 2 months to really get used to using mine. I can't imagine flying without it now. It's not that I'm too dependent on it, but it's really That good...once you get used to it that is.

Give it a shot and if there is even a little bit of satisfaction, keep it. You'll love it later.

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TX Rahman
09-13-2004, 09:26 PM
OT: Hey Turo...where are you on WWII online these days?

Regards and Salute,
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WTE_Galway
09-13-2004, 09:45 PM
one hint

make sure its not sharing a USB port with another high current device like an optical mouse or FFB stick as that can cause all sorts of erratic behaviour

also .. make sure it is actually in enhanced mode (blue light on) not mouse mode when you start .. if not hit F8 to switch modes

personally I just use the default IL2 profile supplied with the game but if you are having trouble getting used to holding your head still for shooting just hit F12 to centre the view then hit the disable key (F9)and reenable the track Ir once you are not shooting

El Turo
09-14-2004, 01:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TX Rahman:
OT: Hey Turo...where are you on WWII online these days?

Regards and Salute,
TX-Rahman
http://www.txsquadron.com<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yo! Actually, my main account sub ran out (yearly pre-pay), so I've been slumming around on a buddy's second account for a while. If I get to play at all, it's usually late night or for 15-20 minutes on my lunch break.. so I'm kind of hard to catch. Lately, due to my erratic availability and limited chunks of large time (which are kind of necessary for a solid gaming experience in WWIIOL), I've been here at IL2 mostly.. with some forays into Doom3 and Call of Duty on occaison.

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Best,

~T.

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______________________
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was once
a place
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reloading my rifle.

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