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Venom079
04-09-2004, 07:59 AM
tryin to figure out the best way to set my prop pitch settings other than the keyboard...Do most of you have it assigned to your throttle or a slider? I get distracted using the keyboard when in the middle of a heated battle + i like flyin LW aircraft and you do get more performance out of CEM...just would like a few thoughts on how you guys have it set up! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifthanks

Venom079
04-09-2004, 07:59 AM
tryin to figure out the best way to set my prop pitch settings other than the keyboard...Do most of you have it assigned to your throttle or a slider? I get distracted using the keyboard when in the middle of a heated battle + i like flyin LW aircraft and you do get more performance out of CEM...just would like a few thoughts on how you guys have it set up! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifthanks

GK.
04-09-2004, 08:03 AM
stick it on the rotary wheel on the x45 throttle and you are well on your way to becoming an ace, just like me.

Curly_109
04-09-2004, 08:13 AM
i've played few days ago with intention to figure out how to manage Bf109F2 prop pitch settings [PPS]. there is NO WAY that you can safely manage it mannualy... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

at first i turned it to 70% and imediatelly lower power to 50-60%; still i heard funny noise from engine and then i engage auto PPS and limped went back home (of course engine was half-fried). as far as i know it happens to all 109 engines no matter of model(however E series is a little sturdier http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif)
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cheerz

Venom079
04-09-2004, 08:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GK.:
stick it on the rotary wheel on the x45 throttle and you are well on your way to becoming an ace, just like me.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that's what I was wanting to do!, either the X45 or CH throttle...thanks man. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

curly, keep workin with it m8. It takes time like anything else, hang in there! it's well worth the work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

S~
Venom

Curly_109
04-09-2004, 08:28 AM
maybe... will check it out. however i would like to have that little nice joystick of yours... it would be easier with it. i have an ancient genius joy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif

Tully__
04-09-2004, 08:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Curly_109:
i've played few days ago with intention to figure out how to manage Bf109F2 prop pitch settings [PPS]. there is NO WAY that you can safely manage it mannualy... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

at first i turned it to 70% and imediatelly lower power to 50-60%; still i heard funny noise from engine and then i engage auto PPS and limped went back home (of course engine was half-fried). as far as i know it happens to all 109 engines no matter of model(however E series is a little sturdier http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif)
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

cheerz<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lower power before switching to Manual Pitch. Lower it a lot. When you first switch to manual, pitch defaults to full fine. There is no quicker way to kill an engine than the massive over-rev that occurs when swithing to full fine pitch at full power settings at high airspeeds. Same was true in real aircraft (and is still true if you miss a gear on a stick shift car with no rev-limiter while at full throttle).

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GK.
04-09-2004, 08:37 AM
Just use it for climbing and getting away from people to start out. Switch back to auto when you get in a df. When you do get used to it, try using it while turning, twisting, etc in a fight. helps to listen to the sound of the engine and memorize what sounds are over the limit of 'safe' rpm. i may post an .ntrk of my god-like mastery of the bf109 series if i can find a host. cheers.

IKP_Hawk
04-09-2004, 09:04 AM
This is my approach to CEM for the Variable Speed Propeller.

Startup:
Switch to manual from auto
Prop 100%
Radiator full open for taxi and TO

Takeoff:
Normal:use 1.3 ata and 100% PP
Do not exceed MP 1.4 ata or 3000rpm (approx 91% power)

Climb:
Raise gear
Prop pitch to 90% do not exceed 3000rpm (adjust pitch and AOA as needed for max or slow climb)

MP 1.2 to 1.3ata
Radiator to position 2

Cruise:
Prop pitch 60-70% (adjust higher or lower as needed for max or normal cruise depending on a/c)
MP 1.2 to 1.3ata do not exceed 3000rpm

Combat:
MP 1.4ata 2850rpm (5 minute max) do not exceed 3000rpm (if diving close radiators so not to supercool engine and if needed decrease prop pitch to prevent overspeed)

Landing:
Slow a/c to approach speed
MP (Power) off
Inch prop pitch back to 100% (dont overspeed) in case of go around

Gear down and locked
Radiator closed to keep from supercooling engine
Flaps as needed

Rollout:
Raise flaps for maximum braking
Radiator full open for taxi

Venom079
04-09-2004, 09:14 AM
cool, thanks m8's for your comments! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

FltLt_HardBall
04-09-2004, 09:20 AM
I have TrackIR 2, so I've re-assigned the hat switch. Instead of snap views, my hat button now gives me prop pitch up and down, and supercharger stage 1 & 2.

LEBillfish
04-09-2004, 10:16 AM
Know I am by far no expert and the rookie here, however....

Do NOT do this in a dive!!......

While in auto pitch, try and set 60% pitch, it will not shift as you are still in auto pitch, then press your auto/manual pitch button. Normally I have found at 95% throttle this is about where it is actually running, naturally dependant on altitude.

To practice, leave your throttle alone and just play with pitch seeing what happens always trying to keep rpms on E series at or below 2200, F and later 2500rpm, this also means in a dive. So try diving and climbing turning and such adjusting your pitch to keep rpms at a relative constant.

I have not the experience or skill to explain to you "how engines work in "FB"", though have heard from many that better more finely tuned performance comes in the form of working throttle, Pitch, considering manifold pressure and rpm......How true that really is I can't say.

What I can say is this.........WHen using manual pitch you will find some planes respond quicker (slowing and speeding up) to throttle yet most seem to work to pitch. Manifold pressure either high or low has never in "my limited" experience affected an engine of any plane I have flown here. Running the supercharger at the wrong stage for an extended period CAN kill the performance of an engine it seeming to not be able to recover. Mix has an affect as well, though how permanent any damage is if any I can not say. 6 as an all around setting for radiator seems to work fine though perhaps overkill, in fast pursuits when using boost/temp. performance "W" key I shift to open, auto radiator works so why not use it.

All in all, I pretty much run 95% throttle and adjust pitch for rpm's, mix/SC for altitude.

Experiment, try running 100% pitch and fly adjusting only throttle see what happens. Try the same running 100% throttle adjusting pitch.
Eventually, my guess is you'll start using a little of both like i need to learn to do....

Lastly, due to my small hands I use my stick just for flying, not even guns and keyboard for everything else. It's simple to do and unless you have all the gear my guess is it is the best way till you do. If you'd like a copy of my key command file to look over pm me here with your email and I'll send it to you.


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[This message was edited by LEBillfish on Fri April 09 2004 at 09:25 AM.]

Venom079
04-09-2004, 10:38 AM
Thanks LEBillfish for an in-depth explanation! I still have a ways to go until I master CEM, so all of these tips are greatly appreciated!Thnx to all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Venom