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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 11:57 PM
Nice work guys http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

U didn't want any evidence from outside your own resources and U wanted to make a realistic simulator. This is the result http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

U decided to turn the simulator to an ARCADE GAME. Really nice, really...Well, U had to please the Russian home market and other VVS-lovers with this GAME BALANCING, but...

I bet that Germany and the U.S. are one of your main markets...at least if we talk about markets where players actually pay big bucks from the game...they don't go to a large outdoor market and get the game for 100 Ruples. If U look at the online communities most active squads are Axis squads. That gives a pretty good image of the target market. So instead of giving them authentically modeled planes, U wanted to give them some ARCADISH FMs and DMs to balance the game...Nice business analysis by UBIhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif U R gonna lost lots of cashhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

...well I am not gonna buy any more add-ons into my game. The current game will be just fine, cause it sucks already. Example: U just had to balance the early war planes to make the game more playable for VVS-side...nice. Now many online VEF and VOW pilots are frustrated how these planes "balance" in the game. Many have given up playing the game regularlyhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well U managed to do pretty darn good job in "balancing" the game, but U killed the original nature of it since the original IL2. The last patch was just from somewhere, where the sun don't shine. RIP on these stupid patches and GAME BALANCING.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 11:57 PM
Nice work guys http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

U didn't want any evidence from outside your own resources and U wanted to make a realistic simulator. This is the result http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

U decided to turn the simulator to an ARCADE GAME. Really nice, really...Well, U had to please the Russian home market and other VVS-lovers with this GAME BALANCING, but...

I bet that Germany and the U.S. are one of your main markets...at least if we talk about markets where players actually pay big bucks from the game...they don't go to a large outdoor market and get the game for 100 Ruples. If U look at the online communities most active squads are Axis squads. That gives a pretty good image of the target market. So instead of giving them authentically modeled planes, U wanted to give them some ARCADISH FMs and DMs to balance the game...Nice business analysis by UBIhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif U R gonna lost lots of cashhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

...well I am not gonna buy any more add-ons into my game. The current game will be just fine, cause it sucks already. Example: U just had to balance the early war planes to make the game more playable for VVS-side...nice. Now many online VEF and VOW pilots are frustrated how these planes "balance" in the game. Many have given up playing the game regularlyhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well U managed to do pretty darn good job in "balancing" the game, but U killed the original nature of it since the original IL2. The last patch was just from somewhere, where the sun don't shine. RIP on these stupid patches and GAME BALANCING.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:00 AM
Actually Oleg has never said that there was balancing and Youss said it was HIS opinion. Basically you've become angry about nothing.



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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:54 AM
ianboys wrote:
http://www.sturmovik.com/luftwhiners.jpg


Real nice Ian. The real losers are the Oleg *** Kissers. They invented this myth of "luftwhining" and in turn call any comment that isn't glowing praise a "whine".

It's ridiculous BS, and you are propagating it I see.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 01:04 AM
http://webpages.charter.net/cuda70/luftwhiners.jpg


That will inspire a lot of faith that you will help make sure things are right in any upcoming patches.


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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 01:16 AM
Hiya guys! How's it going? Have you figured any solution to that whole 109 climb-rate thing yet?/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 01:37 AM
Yeah, I figured it out. But Im not going to tell!

Sorry, no troll food here.. move along now..

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 01:40 AM
http://www.sturmovik.com/luftwhiners.jpg


He got the P-38 before me.

No fair!!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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Oh yeah, I'm a P-63 whiner too! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 02:12 AM
The term 'luftwhiner' is usually aimed at the crowd who never let a fact get in the way of a nice, long, whine session.

Like the guy who started this thread.

Oleg himself emerged to dispell that particular comment by Youss, as well as Youss disowning it.

What more do you want?

Wait. Don't answer that, I really don't care to know.


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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 02:26 AM
Fehler wrote:
- Yeah, I figured it out. But Im not going to tell!
-
- Sorry, no troll food here.. move along now..


Me? A troll? The debate was going quite fervently,then it tapered off...Why? I thought maybe someone had a fix....

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 02:50 AM
How much longer do we have to put up with this guys mouth before he gets a ban? Refering to you, Blitzpig_DDT of course.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 02:57 AM
Blitz can be rather hateful and rude.....

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 03:36 AM
BlitzPig_DDT wrote:

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- Real nice Ian. The real losers are the Oleg ***
- Kissers. They invented this myth of "luftwhining"
- and in turn call any comment that isn't glowing
- praise a "whine".
-
- It's ridiculous BS, and you are propagating it I
- see.


Really? Let's take a look at what Porta wrote:

"U decided to turn the simulator to an ARCADE GAME. Really nice, really...Well, U had to please the Russian home market and other VVS-lovers with this GAME BALANCING"

Oh, that's nice. Basically accusing the developer of screwing up the game to please some "market."

"I bet that Germany and the U.S. are one of your main markets...at least if we talk about markets where players actually pay big bucks from the game...they don't go to a large outdoor market and get the game for 100 Ruples."

Oh, wow - not at all bigotted and disparaging about Russia, is he? (BTW Porta, they're called "rubles." If you're going to try and be a jerk about another country, at least try to get the currency right.)


This Porta is a dumb-***. He leaps to the conclusion that problems with the game are due to the developer being willing to mess up the FM and DM to please a mythical audience (I guess he's really saying that if he were a Russian, that's what he'd demand).

Someone objecting to this type of absurd post isn't an Oleg *** kisser, you know. I fly the German planes, I'm not happy about the changes, but I find it contemptible that some ******* comes here and exercises his bigotry in the name of "improving the game." That's a far bigger offense IMO than being called a luftwhiner.





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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 03:56 AM
Icarus999... HA!

Take a look at what he wrote? I did not have to read any further than...

"U didn't want any evidence from outside your own resources...",

to realize Porta ia an imbecile.

DDT, you really should have realized that, also. You're smarter than 'that'. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 04:00 AM
Whats "Game Balance" got to do with war?

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 04:19 AM
Zatorski wrote:
- Whats "Game Balance" got to do with war?

Or, IL-2 FB, and that is the point, it doesn't and there is not any.

Either trust what 'I' say on this, or you take the time to go and find every single reference to "balance" concerning FB.

Zatorski, the original poster is 'misguided', to say the very least.

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 05:15 AM
Lignite is pi$$ed. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I hit close to home for him obviously. lol Sorry OAK, not to offend you or anything.

Yeah, right. As if I care about people who love to be offended.

Icarus, that goes for you to. I have to wonder what buisness it is of yours whether an idiot is "insulting" to the developer or not. I have to wonder why you get so upset by it. What's in it for you? I mean, I know you are a bleeding heart and all, but come on man. Well, I can think of some possibilities, but, I know you'd protest them all.

Real Kill, this has nothing to do with the brain that started this thread, but, Ian's wonderfully unbiased little picture, and the whole nature of this "community".

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 07:11 AM
I think the original post is BS.

I think Ian's picture is BS.

Still, there is a reason why there is very little VVS whining, what do they have to complain about? To be honest I share the opinion that the game has been balanced in subtle ways, but I can live with it. Most of the bugs since IL-2 have been with the German and USAAF planes (I don't believe the bugs are intentional at all). And if these people are so called "luftwhiners" how can you explain the drastic improvement of planes through performance increases and bug fixing (it certainly wasn't Oleg feeling generous). If there was no "luftwhing" this game would still have many flaws. Actually the USAAF guys have had alot (if not more) to complain about as well but they are not as vocal. To me the P-40 has performance issues but you rarely see any posts about it. You could say that they are more respectful, or that they are not as passionate. I admit the "luftwhiners" can be immature but they do serve a purpose. I just REALLY wish they would go about it in a different way but I believe alot of their frustration is justified. I have gotten disgusted with the luftwhining in the past but people who respond with ignorance and immaturity can be just as annoying. Two wrongs don't make a right. Having said this the original poster should be blasted because of his manner. The best thing though is to just ignore posts like this and let them die quickly. Please don't flame, just pointing something out and I am sure many will disagree.

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 07:25 AM
The uninformed criticism on this forum is getting depressing. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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