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Jieitai_Tsunami
08-05-2004, 10:40 AM
I downloaded a game called Targetsoftware afew weeks ago.
A flying sim software company has made a software engine called Targetsoft for 3rd party software developers to use to create new flying simulator games.

One is called Targetrabaul and has almost all the most popular aircraft in WW2 with a realistic landscape to fly around.

It's not quite the same as IL2 and hard to get used to at first, but I think it is great for practice against some of the aircraft not in IL2 at the moment.

http://web.targetrabaul.com/

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Jieitai_Tsunami
08-05-2004, 10:40 AM
I downloaded a game called Targetsoftware afew weeks ago.
A flying sim software company has made a software engine called Targetsoft for 3rd party software developers to use to create new flying simulator games.

One is called Targetrabaul and has almost all the most popular aircraft in WW2 with a realistic landscape to fly around.

It's not quite the same as IL2 and hard to get used to at first, but I think it is great for practice against some of the aircraft not in IL2 at the moment.

http://web.targetrabaul.com/

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Sakai9745
08-05-2004, 10:57 AM
Nice site - 2 questions: Is it a stand-alone program, and how's the playability?

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xTHRUDx
08-05-2004, 11:31 AM
interesting site

Jieitai_Tsunami
08-05-2004, 04:36 PM
Download and find out guys, only 100mgs.

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Tooz_69GIAP
08-05-2004, 06:08 PM
Stiglr is always ranting and raving about this thing. Says it rocks better than FB. Never tried it myself. Just never really got around to checking it out.

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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ASH at S-MART
08-05-2004, 07:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Stiglr is always ranting and raving about this thing. Says it rocks better than FB. Never tried it myself. Just never really got around to checking it out.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I tired it awhile back... It is no warbirds.. It is no IL2 either.. I wont say it is not worth it.. that is personal.. But it was not worth it to me.. Then again Warbirds was no price either in it's early beta days (0.80) so maybe in a few years it will be up to IL2 standards

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IV_JG51_Razor
08-05-2004, 07:10 PM
No carriers yet http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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Hades_Dragon
08-05-2004, 10:53 PM
Gave it a go. The interface made it extremely difficult to map the buttons on my joystick, I have a Saitek X45, allot a pretty buttons and its ahrd task when you have to assign the function to the button number, hard to remeber what number each button is.

It also had a time synchronization error every time I tryed to play online.

sugaki
08-06-2004, 12:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sakai9745:
Nice site - 2 questions: Is it a stand-alone program, and how's the playability?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1) Yep, standalone. Download the targetware program, then the Target Rabaul download.

2) Plays well, has the most realistic physics modelling for planes I've ever seen IMHO. Definitely worth a go, just to see how the planes fly.

-Aki

Hoarmurath
08-06-2004, 03:13 AM
Realistic physics? in targetware? torque overdone, controls hardly effective, haven't seen a red out yet, black out anecdotal, trims controls ineffective... this only after flying the first training mission. Fb is light years in advance of this flight sim, in terms of physics alone.

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VVS-Manuc
08-06-2004, 05:32 AM
Target Rabaul even in the beta stage has a more realistic flight physics than FB/AEP ever had

Jieitai_Tsunami
08-06-2004, 06:30 AM
IL2's so called Complex engine management and cockpit views are also out classed by TR.

VVS-Manuc
08-06-2004, 06:45 AM
TR has movable canopies already http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

TAGERT.
08-06-2004, 10:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VVS-Manuc:
TR has movable canopies already http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>BFD!

Also.. I see alot of people claiming the FM has more realistic flight physics.. But not one example given.. LET ALONE ANY PROFF to back it up. A case of easy to say? Be my guess.

As for the people who said it's FM is not all that.. Like Hoarmurath.. At least he gave examples like no red out.

IMHO IL2 is overall a far better sim TR.. Sure if you compare feature by feature TR might do one or two things better.. But IL2 as a whole is a much better product IMHO.

Now I allready know what your reply will be.. BUT IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.. it's a BETA! YOU JUST WAIT UNTILL XXXX. Well seeing is beliving.. when XXXX rolls around lets talk.. but for now my statment stands.

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Hoarmurath
08-06-2004, 10:38 AM
No spins too... just tried again... Not very realistic for the moment.

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Jieitai_Tsunami
08-06-2004, 07:05 PM
I'm not saying it is the best Pacific sim, far from it, but it is great practice for any one bored to the teeth with Eastern Europe like me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif.

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Hoarmurath
08-07-2004, 12:10 AM
I managed to play IL2 for three years and i'm still enjoying it. I played TR for less than an hour and was already bored with it.

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nearmiss
08-07-2004, 06:48 PM
It is supposed to be an open-source type thingy. Not the way I read it. There is no AI for offline play and after it goes final subscriptions of $10 per month for any amount of time online.

You can play free offline all you like, but it's a one plane situation (ultra-boring).

It's beta now, and basically looks pretty good. I'd say nothing extra to it, but a Pacific Theatre.

It is a long way in most respects from FB. I'm an offline player so there is nothing there for me. I'd think the FB Online right now would be far superior to it.

So...if you've gotta have Pacifc Theatre now go for it. It is free and it's about equal or less than equal to CFS2.

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aminx
08-08-2004, 02:17 AM
PURE RUBBISH.
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nearmiss
08-08-2004, 08:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by aminx:
PURE RUBBISH.
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VF-3Thunderboy
08-08-2004, 11:54 PM
...Your better off with CFS2, and 1% Airplanes. Get some better cloud add ons,Write your own fighter missions, throw in some NULL FACTOR,climb into your fancy 1% Wildcat, corsair whatever, and see if you can shoot something down, - you may be suprised... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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aminx
08-09-2004, 08:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-3Thunderboy:
...Your better off with CFS2, and 1% Airplanes. Get some better cloud add ons,Write your own fighter missions, throw in some _NULL FACTOR_,climb into your fancy 1% Wildcat, corsair whatever, and see if you can shoot something down, - you may be suprised... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
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Capt._Tenneal
08-09-2004, 08:45 AM
I haven't seen any articles about Targetware in PCGamer, PCPilot or any publication. If there is, can someone link the article. Usually these publications tip you off to lesser-known quality programs on the net or for download, but I haven't seen them feature Targetware yet.

Carnage2681
08-09-2004, 01:40 PM
Maybe a lot of people don´t like TR because P40´s don´t T&B Zeros in it, like real life....

nearmiss
08-09-2004, 07:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-3Thunderboy:
...Your better off with CFS2, and 1% Airplanes. Get some better cloud add ons,Write your own fighter missions, throw in some _NULL FACTOR_,climb into your fancy 1% Wildcat, corsair whatever, and see if you can shoot something down, - you may be suprised... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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I second that! CFS2 with 1% A/C are a quantum leap above the targetware thing "offline".

You're better off to stay with IL2-FB Online.

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LEXX_Luthor
08-09-2004, 07:43 PM
Depends on TargetWare's ability to model battlefield environment. In FB the server dudes/dudettes must bend over forwards to create a realistic battlefield...ecology. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Grafix and FM is less important than the battlfield/war environment you fight in--Does not apply to Civil flight sims. Also needed is being able to easily talk to the maps and ground objects on the maps. FB is NOT "easy" lol.

I am interested in TAGERT's observation...

TAGERT:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I see alot of people claiming the FM has more realistic flight physics.. But not one example given....

As for the people who said it's FM is not all that.. Like Hoarmurath.. At least he gave examples like no red out.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Spins too, apparently.

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Jieitai_Tsunami
08-11-2004, 04:41 PM
Well I'm glad TR will be free of whine freaks and nasty noobs http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

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ASH at S-MART
08-12-2004, 11:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jieitai_Tsunami:
Well I'm glad TR will be free of whine freaks and nasty noobs http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

http://www.jieitai.bravehost.com/http://www.jieitai.bravehost.com/Images/Main%20logo.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Too late.. Stigler is allready playing TR http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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karost
08-15-2004, 02:30 PM
community-news about TARGETWARE

After I download this sim, I like to make short report.

this fligh sim is very interesting in UNCOMPROMISE realistic in FM , I become a noob after try to landing Corsair 4 time but can not make any save landing.


if you are hard core flight sim online player and looking for uncompromise FM and still don't know anything about Targetware visit this place:
http://www.targetware.net

remark:
this sim still beta 0.63 ( it's mean free download but not 100% complete )

now I stop cry for FM in FB(AEP).... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

Hoarmurath
08-15-2004, 02:41 PM
You're mistaking difficulty with realism.... It is not because a game is more difficult that it is more realistic. I found this one to be a perfect example.

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karost
08-15-2004, 03:03 PM
Hi, ASH_SMART

thanks for that "spin"'s comment in Target Ware,
that's why, I add a remark for may post

remark:
this sim still beta 0.63 ( it's mean free download but not 100% complete )

last night I try to landing P-51 in Targetware... WOW , it not easy... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

there still need longer time to release FP right ? why not try TW and landing Corsair for your pre-training.

then after you got FP then landing Corsair again , you will see the difference knowledge.



S!
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[This message was edited by karost on Tue August 17 2004 at 12:35 AM.]

ASH at S-MART
08-15-2004, 05:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karost:
I found this sim (target ware) make me happy for learning new experience about FM's unique physics engine.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Unique in that there are no spins! As Hoarmurath pointed out earlier.

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actionhank1786
08-17-2004, 02:45 AM
You can fly an Emily, and drop bombs from it...and torpedos...that blow up on contact with the water...setting your plane on fire...but hey...that's realism...right?

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ladoga
09-25-2004, 07:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hoarmurath:
I managed to play IL2 for three years and i'm still enjoying it. I played TR for less than an hour and was already bored with it.

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I managed to play FB for few weeks until i was totally fed up with incosistent FMs, lack of torque, scripted spins and scripted FMs.

I've been enjoying TW a lot more. So i guess it just depends. In TW physics model mimics RL physics and plane data files interact with it. Plane data file (.acm) includes stuff like engine critical alts, engine power, airfoils, prop types and so on. Theres no performance data at all. Still these planes (which everyone can make) get very close to their realistic performance values somehow. I think acm files still are somewhat lacking (ie. all types of engines cant be modeled properly, fe. rotaries with their gyro effects.) But anyway this system is IMO years ahead of FBs scripted FMs which seemed to be mainly made to archive good balance between axis and allies rides. (LaGG-3 m.41 climbing 16m/s etc. while real one got 11.5m/s and 9.5m/s depending on test etc.)

Well..that system is about the only thing i like in TW so far. New config system is unintuitive and hard to use. (ie. mapping stick buttons is real pain in the ***) Graphics are so so, especially missing of advanced lighting effects is bad. GPS type map is a big minus too. I think netcode has microwarping which is simply unacceptable. (tho theres less netlag than in any other online sim ive seen) Maybe these things will be adressed later.

Just wanted to post my opinions as you did yours.

ladoga
09-25-2004, 07:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by actionhank1786:
You can fly an Emily, and drop bombs from it...and torpedos...that blow up on contact with the water...setting your plane on fire...but hey...that's realism...right?

Actionhank
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Ofcourse not.

TW hasnt water modeled at all yet. Theres lots of similar stuff ie. droptanks exploding on contact with ground which need to be adressed.

ladoga
09-25-2004, 07:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ASH at S-MART:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karost:
I found this sim (target ware) make me happy for learning new experience about FM's unique physics engine. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Unique in that there are no spins! As Hoarmurath pointed out earlier.

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Yes, no scripted spins.

There are spins but they are very hard to get in . Even in planes like p-400 and it's not entirely coinvincing.

I think it really needs to be looked at. In contrast WW1 planes with the same game engine in RS mod seem to be quite prone to spinning.

ladoga
09-25-2004, 07:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ASH at S-MART:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jieitai_Tsunami:
Well I'm glad TR will be free of whine freaks and nasty noobs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

http://www.jieitai.bravehost.com/http://www.jieitai.bravehost.com/Images/Main%20logo.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Too late.. Stigler is allready playing TR http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Nah.. he seems to be quite a good boy over there. Im whining much more.

Maj_Death
09-25-2004, 07:58 PM
I tried it a few months back and I wasn't impressed at all. It does have better engine management but other than that it is pure crap. Its FM's, DM's and graphics are all dated by about 10 years. And the interface is simply terrible (it is a beta though). AEP is certainly no hardcore flight sim, but Targetware products are alot worse IMHO.

ladoga
09-25-2004, 08:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maj_Death:
I tried it a few months back and I wasn't impressed at all. It does have better engine management but other than that it is pure crap. Its FM's, DM's and graphics are all dated by about 10 years. And the interface is simply terrible (it is a beta though). AEP is certainly no hardcore flight sim, but Targetware products are alot worse IMHO. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah i remember. You were the guy who coundn't get p-40 off the ground. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Korolov
09-25-2004, 08:39 PM
I don't really see the big deal. It's got more complex controls, more torque, but that seems to be about it. First time I tried it, was pretty difficult to get a single-engine fighter off the ground, but with a little practice it became second nature. Landing wasn't all that hard either.

Honestly, aside from really extreme torque effects and more complex engine management, I don't see what TR has. I think it needs a lot more polish before they can finally put it out in the wild. For one thing I'd really like to see some improved textures, and maybe a basic AI system for offline practice sessions.

It's still a beta, and it's just not ready yet.

LEXX_Luthor
09-25-2004, 11:06 PM
mmm. I dunno. I kinda like the idea of not having any AI dogfight practice offwhine. Your first onwhine dogfight is your first dogfight (over the TagertWare)...just like in real life. Although mock dogfight training against a single friendly AI wingperson with no guns would be acceptable under this idea.

Jieitai_Tsunami
10-13-2004, 06:06 AM
I just found this game called 'Pacific heros' on Yahoo, haven't played it yet but looks fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. Only 11mgs.

http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=pacificheroes

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sugaki
10-13-2004, 01:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>TAGERT:: [QUOTE]I see alot of people claiming the FM has more realistic flight physics.. __But not one example given....__
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

First off, there's an important distinction when it comes to the fanbase of TW and the fanbase at PF.

If somebody brings a valid concern at TW, people acknowledge it. For example, water's obviously not well modelled, and it's acknowledged. Damage modelling needs work as well.

Here, if anybody observes anything wrong, they get blasted, and people close their ears yelling hoping to not hear anything negative of the game.

There's so many things about the FM in this game that's inaccurate (that TW does right), and it's been posted here so many times--the problem is fans here just don't want to hear it. They run from the reality by calling it "whining," "trolling," or any other ad hominem.

PC Gamer and other publications don't write about it because frankly I don't think there's any diehard flight simmers at the publications right now (especially CGW), and TW is a extremely nichey hard core flight sim.

I don't hold any allegiance to any particular sim. I don't have the need to latch onto one sim and pretend its the sim of all sims. TW has issues. PF has issues. But it's baffling to see people talk as though PF has everything right, and does everything better than TW.

ploughman
10-13-2004, 03:24 PM
I gave it a go. Stiglr shot me down.

aminx
10-13-2004, 05:24 PM
how come this **** is around again!!!!
aminx

NegativeGee
10-13-2004, 05:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jieitai_Tsunami:
I just found this game called 'Pacific heros' on Yahoo, haven't played it yet but looks fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. Only 11mgs.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ooooh, looky here!

Does it come with CEM? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Seriously though, we all know the IL-2 series has inherent shortcomings that will never be addressed. I doubt TW: TR will free of them either, even once it has passed beyond beta.

Its all about finding what appeals to you most in the games and enjoying each for what it offers.

II_JG1Hartmann
10-13-2004, 10:57 PM
The thing sucks!

Save your bandwidth and download porn! You'll get more enjoyment out of it then this thing.

nearmiss
10-14-2004, 10:00 AM
I took targetware off my HDD about 5 minutes after I loaded it.

Course...I'm strictly an offline player and it is strictly an online game, not a 75% online game like IL2-FB-AEP-PF.

I can still ferret some fun out of IL2 series offline.

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Old_Canuck
10-14-2004, 12:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by aminx:
PURE RUBBISH.
aminx

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HAAARRRUMPH .. agreed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif