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Warpcleft
02-21-2014, 05:23 PM
I noticed this issue quite a long time just haven't got around to writing about it.
One of the few issues with the assassination mechanic of this game, and as well of Splinter Cell Blacklist, is that if a player is hung on a ledge, preparing to leap unto a target underneath, there is no possible way for you to kill that player besides shooting/climbing above it.
So, to make it clear, If you stand on a Ledge, you can Air assassinate a target under you. But if you are UNDER the target on a Ledge, you don't have any way to assassinate the guy on the ledge, you can only pull people from a flat roof surface if you're on a Ledge yourself.
So only way to kill on those areas is by shooting, or going above.
So on a game like Blacklist and Assassin's Creed, when you are unseen and undetected and unheard, you intuitive go for the takedown, the backstab, the flank, not shooting.
And there's where the game breaks, the dude on a ledge can insta kill you.
You cant.
That is a bit of a missstep on the game design that I really wanted to talk to the devs about see if there is a reason for it, or maybe just no one noticed, which is possible. Hard to keep track of everything.
And on the topic of how to fix that, you could simply. Add a kill animation to a player standing directly under a target. "Stab-Pull-Drop".
Wouldn't require much if any balancing really, just a specific distance from target that you can or cannot trigger the animation, get close enough unseen, "Get the **** out of that ledge". Different characters and Ledges could have different animations, but keep it simple and it would allow the game to have something that was missing from the start, being able to stealth assassinate a target on a Ledge.

jeffies04
02-23-2014, 11:19 AM
What do you mean? You can hang off the ledge and reach up and stab somebody with your wristblade and pull them over...

Are you saying you just want to reach up and stab them but NOT pull them over?

Warpcleft
02-28-2014, 03:31 PM
What do you mean? You can hang off the ledge and reach up and stab somebody with your wristblade and pull them over...

Are you saying you just want to reach up and stab them but NOT pull them over?

Like I said. You can BE on a ledge to kill someone on a ROOF.
You cannot ASSASSINATE someone that's on a LEDGE from BELOW.
Stay on a Ledge and you're immortal unless someone climbs up on the roof and kills you from above, or shoots you.
There is no "Pull you Off a Ledge from your Feet" Animation, which on AC it let's people hang on Ledges the entire game, and on Blacklist when a guy is on top of a door waiting for someone to come through the door and you see that guy and want to kill the guy, you can't, unless you shoot. And if you try to move closer for a melee animation the guy that never knew you were there and was hanging on the ledge/top of the door can kill you.

YazX_
02-28-2014, 08:00 PM
true and you are right, they need to add some assassination mechanism to it, another issue also that needs to be fixed is you cannot grab kill once you are detected , this has been a bug since AC3 and ported to AC4, i say its a bug because you can do it in earlier ACs so its unlikely they changed it.