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Monty_Thrud
05-23-2004, 06:22 AM
Could anybody please recommend WWII Aircraft perfomance data books, specifically those types with all the data and not just a simplified version.
And also the official figures from a respected source...eg Janes book of....etc.
Also web links of the same would be greatly appreciated http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gifIt seems with all the disagreements going on with Aircraft performance and nobody seems to agree on anything or provide evidence...i would just like to have a respected and official source to refer too on these wonderful machines
Thanks in advance http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Monty_Thrud
05-23-2004, 06:22 AM
Could anybody please recommend WWII Aircraft perfomance data books, specifically those types with all the data and not just a simplified version.
And also the official figures from a respected source...eg Janes book of....etc.
Also web links of the same would be greatly appreciated http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gifIt seems with all the disagreements going on with Aircraft performance and nobody seems to agree on anything or provide evidence...i would just like to have a respected and official source to refer too on these wonderful machines
Thanks in advance http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.uploadit.org/bsamania/Huzzy_no_ordnance03.jpg
"#2 Attack that ship".."#1..with what?".."#2 your ordnance DAMMIT!".."#1 my ordnance is in Olegs office, same place yours is".."#2 we'd better learn German then"

Frequent_Flyer
05-23-2004, 07:11 AM
The most complete and I assume accurate one for soviet aircraft I've run across : Soviet combat Aircraft of the Second World War,vol. one: Single-Engined Fighters, Yefim Gordon and Dmitrt Khzanov, Midland Publishing Limited, 1998

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k5054
05-23-2004, 10:00 AM
America's hundred Thousand is good, expensive but worth it.
Spitfire, The History is good, two inches thick but still leaves unanswered questions.

Basically you need about 20 shelf feet of books to cover just the fighters. And those books will contradict each other. And if you quote them here, some 'better informed' person will call you names for believing it. I know I do.
With some very common fighters, especially German, the facts are very hard to find, and the books would rather talk about ruestsaetz than performance figures, or give them in such round numbers you have to suspect their accuracy. You have to look for flight tests , but you can't just trust tests done by the enemy, or tests done by the manufacturer, or any others really.

Good luck.

georgeo76
05-23-2004, 10:22 AM
Just do a search for posts by Leadspitter and Skychimp, they know everything.

Chuck_Older
05-23-2004, 01:04 PM
Be wary of David Mondey's books.

I have no doubt the man was well intended, but some of his sources cite poor or even wrong information. Nice color plates though.

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Capt._Tenneal
05-24-2004, 01:27 PM
What are your evaluations on the following authors I keep encountering on amazon.com searches :

Bill Gunston
Mike Spick
David Mondey
Yefim Gordon
John Weal

Good, bad, indifferent ?

I jus saw Chuck_Older's Mondey comment above. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

k5054
05-25-2004, 02:48 AM
Gunston, RAF pilot, editor of 'Flight' for years. Well-informed, opinionated, UK-centric, has a writing style that annoys some, but always worth reading. The encyclopaedic a/c books are good but not of course free from error. The engine books have material you won't easily find elsewhere.

Mike Spick, very good on tactics and their history, a good read and makes the subject clear to understand. recommended

Mondey, nothing special, tends to perpetuate errors

Gordon, a good researcher of WW2 Soviet a/c, many 'new' facts, worthwhile.

Weal, writes on LW aces, but mainly an illustrator with whom some people have problems in the light of new knowledge

And of course; William Green, the essential pioneer of WW2 aircraft writing. Copious volume of work, whilst also editing a series of magazines. Because of the vast amount of material, unfortunately there are some errors in the light of later research. Some people knock him for the errors, but I don't, considering the sheer amount of his work. Some a/c documented by him forty years ago have still not had better write-ups to this day. Much of the aircraft stuff you find on the internet is just a thinly-veiled rewrite of Bill Green. you know who I mean.