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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 03:33 AM
Should they be added and if so which ones?

I personally think the H-16 should be added as it was the most produced version i believe.

And i definatly think the 111 should be allowed to carry a single 2000kg bomb. i believe they could do this. Also i dunno why the H6 does not have a 20mm cannon in the front gondola, or why it can't carry 4-500 SD not SC bombs.

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 03:33 AM
Should they be added and if so which ones?

I personally think the H-16 should be added as it was the most produced version i believe.

And i definatly think the 111 should be allowed to carry a single 2000kg bomb. i believe they could do this. Also i dunno why the H6 does not have a 20mm cannon in the front gondola, or why it can't carry 4-500 SD not SC bombs.

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 04:00 AM
The 111 is a nice plane, but I would much rather they concentrate on the Ju-88. Its faster and handles better.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 04:06 AM
let us have the Zwilling !!!!!!!!!!!

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 04:23 AM
oh well im all for the ju88 as well, since most planes are getting varients for them i figure maybe additional 111 ones.

As far as the zwilling goes, im talking about 111 planes that were actually used not the 2 or so zwilling ones, plus i find that plane to large and ineffective if u want good defensive fire look forward to the he177 or b17.

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 04:31 AM
Better the He-177.
Now that was a good match for the B-17.
<center>http://www.simviation.com/pageimages/he177.jpg
<center>http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW4/He177-A5-17.jpg
<center>http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW4/He177-A5-16s.jpg
<center>http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW/He177-A5-12.jpg
<center>http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW3/he177-001.jpg
<center>http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW/He177-V1-8.jpg

or even better, the He277:
<center>http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW2/He277-2.jpg
<center>http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW4/He277-3s.jpg
This plane(he177) was actualy a four engined Ac,in each wing nacelle, were two engines.
some data/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif for the A-5 variant wich was a version of A-3, adapted to transport 3 guided rocket bombs *Fritz X*)
lenght: 22m
wingspan:31.44m
height:6.70m
engines:2*2950 hp DB610A/Bs
max operational weight:31 tons
max speed: 512 km/h at 6100m, with a weight of 27,156kg
399km/h at sea level with the same weight.
service ceiling 9400m
Range: 3650km, with max bomb load, and 5600km with no bombs.

weapons: one mg18 and 1 mg151/20 in the nose,twomg131 in the 2 dorsal turrets.
crew:6 men(1 pilot, 1copilot/observer/ bombardier/radio operator, 3 gunners.)


Just imagine how it is to fly this Monstrousity......
there were about 570 He117 built and delivered untilOctober 1944, when production stopped.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 04:34 AM
The H-6 DOES have a 20mm in the front doesn't it?

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 04:37 AM
Zwilling.........!!!!!!

hahahah those things are funny, theyre more transports planes for invading an enemy airfield and I have done online....... I dunno but I read somewhere a "crap planes" forum. Surely the Zwilling has a place.

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 05:17 AM
yes it has ONE in the NOSE if u look on records the h6 varient should ALSO have a 20mm in the front gondola for ship killing i beileve or what not

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 05:33 AM
Thrawn888 wrote:
- yes it has ONE in the NOSE if u look on records the
- h6 varient should ALSO have a 20mm in the front
- gondola for ship killing i beileve or what not
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Nope, some H-6s had the 20mm in the gondola, some in the nose. Not both (although I'm sure it was possible).

Frankly, I don't know where more He-111 variants could really take us. There wasn't really much that could be done past the H-6 with a basically obsolescent design. There should definitely be more loadout options, but Butch2k has already passed that information on to Oleg for likely inclusion. Some of the more modern German bombers would be much more interesting than more variants of the 111.


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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 05:47 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing an earlier version with the stepped cockpit.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 05:52 AM
all i can say is man did germany have some UUUUGLy bombers. lol
no style to them what so ever. just plain ugly.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 06:11 AM
Some were ugly,some weren't. I think the He-111 looks pretty sleek.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 07:22 AM
I love flying the He-111H2 in VEF2 and I have found her to be very effective when properly escorted. Some more varients would be welcome of course, but what is really needed is more loadouts and a corrected service ceiling. I think she is fast enough for a medium bomber and she handles fairly well too.

BTW I can't wait for the Ju-88, that thing should be a blast.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:23 PM
I would like the one that could fire off the V1. Make the sorties much safer. Take off. Fire. Land have a cup of tea and wait for those scores to go up.