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aminx
07-01-2004, 05:28 AM
hi,
i want to build the MONOGRAM 1/48 scale pacific war series but balked when i realised that i was having trouble finding the right USN colour ready spray!!!
can anyone with experience help?
cheers
aminx

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aminx
07-01-2004, 05:28 AM
hi,
i want to build the MONOGRAM 1/48 scale pacific war series but balked when i realised that i was having trouble finding the right USN colour ready spray!!!
can anyone with experience help?
cheers
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg

Fliger747
07-01-2004, 10:10 PM
I haven't been involved in this for a number of years, but had good luck with the Testors "Model masters" paints. First step is to determine what color your aircraft should be, I would go beyond the model instructions to research this! Most of the applicable colors areavailable in this series in BOTTLES, such as non-specular sea blue etc. They airbrush well. For satisfying model making I suggest investing in a good two stage airbrush.

At any rate...good luck!

aminx
07-02-2004, 12:45 AM
thanks reply
i have found the new range of tamiya sprays dedicated to planes very interesting .for the USN range i want to build namely the dauntless and corsair 1/48 scale i will use ready spray AS5 and AS19.
the new corsair by TAMIYA looks very interesting indeed and specially the VERLINDEN pacific diorama carrier deck and tarmac kits.
I'm through with airbrushes and cammo,i have'nt used my kit in over 10 years.lost patience i presume.
cheers
aminx

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necrobaron
07-02-2004, 02:20 AM
I've never built model aircraft, but I'd love to see your results.

"Not all who wander are lost."

aminx
07-02-2004, 04:38 AM
hi,
the store is going to try to get me the ACURATE brand of the DAUNTLESS 1/48 scale which apparently is better than the HASEGAWA brand,the CORSAIR will be the latest model from TAMIYA.My problem was the paint scheme which is now solved.I should be ready to have various pro photo's taken on VERLINDEN carrier deck and island strip diorama by September.I will then post them on the forum without fail.
aminx

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necrobaron
07-02-2004, 11:23 AM
I look forward to seeing them. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

"Not all who wander are lost."

Merlin (FZG_Immel)
07-02-2004, 12:25 PM
the only planes that I have done and that correspond to PF are a F4-1A corsair (1/32) and a B-29 (1/48).. soome B17 and Mustang could fit there, but they are from ETO , and not PTO..

enjoy the pics

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Merlin (FZG_Immel)
07-02-2004, 12:27 PM
stupid geocities.. just copy the links into your browser, it will work.

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aminx
07-02-2004, 11:49 PM
merlin
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what is the colour spray brand and code you used on your corsair?i hope you did'nt mix and airbrush because i'm through with that.
aminx

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PlaneEater
07-03-2004, 12:01 AM
Ah, styrene, my other WWII passion. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Amnix, ask over in the discussion forum at www.hyperscale.com, (http://www.hyperscale.com,) www.modelingmadness.com, (http://www.modelingmadness.com,) or www.aircraftresourcecenter.com (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com). All three of those sites share a close-knit community of scale-model builders who are extremely knowledgable. Many times, those of us who build digital models for IL-2 and PF end up tapping into their community for information and details.

Regarding paints... Testors Model Master acryls are what I use. They airbrush beautifully straight from the bottle. Tamiya and Gunze-Sayago are both also known as good paint, although Tamiya has a somewhat more oily, seperated consistancy and I haven't used Gunze-Sayago. Humbrol is also decent, similar to Model Master paints but somewhat thicker. It would need thinning for airbrushing. All have their own chemical idyosynchracies with gloss, flat, sealer coats and decal solutions like solvaset and microsol.

aminx
07-03-2004, 02:35 AM
hi plane eater,
the first 2 sights dont link,any reason?thanks info on colours which am well accustomed with but i really want to avoid mixing and airbrushing again if possible.
cheers
aminx

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gombal40
07-03-2004, 03:42 AM
if you click on the link you will see that plane eater has added a "," sign. Remove this and they will work

Merlin (FZG_Immel)
07-03-2004, 04:51 AM
SOrry. I used tamya Acrylic with an airbrush-

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Zeus-cat
07-03-2004, 01:54 PM
Keep in mind that any aircraft in the Pacific would have its colors fade rather quickly due to the intense sunlight. I wouldn't get hung up on the EXACT color just for this reason. You would probably have seen a wide range of colors on the carrier's planes in real life.

I would go for a color that is "close" to what you want. I would chose the quality and type of paint (do you prefer water based paint or oil based) rather than trying to get the perfect color. Ther ereally is no perfect color for a vehicle in service.

I do WWI armor and I used to get hung up on the colors for German tanks. Then I read one day that in 1943 the Germans settled on dark yellow as the base color for all armor. Tank crews were issued green and brown paint for camoflage purposes. The paint was issued is a paste (or was it powder) form and had to be mixed with a liquid to be used on the vehicle. Almost any liquid from water to diesel fuel would work. The liquid chosen would greatly affect the final color of the paint. Add weathering, dirt and mud and the precise color you started with as not nearly as important as how well you paint the model.

Good luck

Zeus-cat

JJaguar
07-03-2004, 03:20 PM
If you are serious about model building, I would recommend picking up an airbrush. That way you can mix and match colors exactly, and even a simple single-action airbrush can put on a coat of paint much better, more evenly, and with more control than any can of spray paint ever could.

They are not very expensive, either. You don't need to invest in a compressor, you can use cans of airbrush propellant while you're starting out. For example,this one is a basic, external mix single-action airbrush. (http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=1196) I have three airbrushes myself, including one similar to this. It's really more of a miniature spray gun than a true airbrush, and it's easy to use and good for covering large areas.

aminx
07-03-2004, 10:57 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zeus-cat:
Keep in mind that any aircraft in the Pacific would have its colors fade rather quickly due to the intense sunlight. I wouldn't get hung up on the EXACT color just for this reason. You would probably have seen a wide range of colors on the carrier's planes in real life.

I would go for a color that is "close" to what you want. I would chose the quality and type of paint (do you prefer water based paint or oil based) rather than trying to get the perfect color. Ther ereally is no perfect color for a vehicle in service.

I do WWI armor and I used to get hung up on the colors for German tanks. Then I read one day that in 1943 the Germans settled on dark yellow as the base color for all armor. Tank crews were issued green and brown paint for camoflage purposes. The paint was issued is a paste (or was it powder) form and had to be mixed with a liquid to be used on the vehicle. Almost any liquid from water to diesel fuel would work. The liquid chosen would greatly affect the final color of the paint. Add weathering, dirt and mud and the precise color you started with as not nearly as important as how well you paint the model.

yes i totally agree with you specially after reading a lot lately on the war in the pacific, conditions, etc and playing a lot of cfs2 i realised from all the weathered skins and historical colours, tail, insignias, squadrons, areas, year, that i was going to get into trouble if i did'nt clarify matters specially since i have'nt built any dioramas and models for 10 years now and nothing since i was a kid relating to the pacific.I really want to do a good job while waitting for pf and from what i see on the web my choice of ordering the ACURATE DAUNTLESS is a good start.the new colours of TAMIYA look very interesting indeed.there was no computors and internet when i was 12 years old and thats 40 years ago now.
cheers
aminx

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aminx
07-03-2004, 11:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jet Jaguar:
If you are serious about model building, I would recommend picking up an airbrush. That way you can mix and match colors exactly, and even a simple single-action airbrush can put on a coat of paint much better, more evenly, and with more control than any can of spray paint ever could.

They are not very expensive, either. You don't need to invest in a compressor, you can use cans of airbrush propellant while you're starting out. For example,http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=1196 I have three airbrushes myself, including one similar to this. It's really more of a miniature spray gun than a true airbrush, and it's easy to use and good for covering large areas.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
thanks for info on cheap airbrushes,they sell a revell set here for almost the same price,but i'm not sure it's quite as good.
i have a compressor and old style stainless steel airbrush with needle which i used up to a decade ago and recently the will came back to model something from the pacific for the first time but i wanted to avoid going back to using it.
if i use spray cans ,it looks like it's going to be TAMIYA USN intermediate blue ,insignia white,light grey and light blue from their aircraft range for the Corsair and Dauntless,their navy blue looks interesting for the Corsair later in the war or Korea.
if i'm not satisfied and i must bring out the old kit,well......ok
cheers
aminx

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