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pacmanate
12-19-2013, 10:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6a4MbYAPFU

Coming soon

Although this stuff is cool, I wish it was actually IN the game when it shipped. That and the 1080p + new AA that came a week after launch.

SixKeys
12-19-2013, 10:40 PM
Kotaku made a pretty good point about this:

http://kotaku.com/assassins-creed-ivs-fancy-new-smoke-will-probably-get-1486318233
I really don't care about this feature. Seems like all it does is make the smoke denser, nothing more. Nice effect, I guess, but hardly game-changing.

pacmanate
12-19-2013, 10:47 PM
Seems more obscuring to me.

AherasSTRG
12-19-2013, 11:30 PM
Next generation? I didn't know the X1 and the PS4 magically transformed their AMD hardware into Nvidia equivelant.

tendogamerxxx
12-19-2013, 11:35 PM
I wasn't aware how amazing PC gaming is. I have ps4 xb1 and wii u but the reason I'll be buying games for those systems are the exclusives. Everything else I'm getting on my PC. Bought be a Titan graphics card, got it hooked up my 80 inch tv and got me a wireless controller and I have never been more happier and amazed. Ps4 and xb1 aren't really that next gen. Man I can't believe I was missing out all this time.

andros635
12-20-2013, 12:44 AM
I know it can be done on consoles because both Bioshock Infinate and Deadpool for the xbox 360 run on Nvidia Physx.

thewhitestig
12-20-2013, 01:32 AM
I wasn't aware how amazing PC gaming is. I have ps4 xb1 and wii u but the reason I'll be buying games for those systems are the exclusives. Everything else I'm getting on my PC. Bought be a Titan graphics card, got it hooked up my 80 inch tv and got me a wireless controller and I have never been more happier and amazed. Ps4 and xb1 aren't really that next gen. Man I can't believe I was missing out all this time.

Welcome to the master race.

ace3001
12-20-2013, 02:34 AM
The extra PhysX effects are PC only. (That also, only on PCs running Nvidia hardware.)
Consoles can only have effects that don't need GPU acceleration, since GPU accelerated PhysX requires Nvidia hardware.
http://physxinfo.com/wiki/PhysX_games_on_Consoles

Basically, you won't be seeing this smoke on consoles. Not even on PCs running AMD hardware. I myself have an AMD card on my PC, and I don't see the PhysX options. No big loss, though. The next gen smoke is already sometimes too obstructive, so I don't really want more of that.

Kagurra
12-20-2013, 02:37 AM
Looks great on everything except the pistol shots. It's too obscuring. I like the actual physics on it but you gotta make them smaller.

AdamPearce
12-20-2013, 03:04 AM
They sould've made PhysX for Blood and Swords collisions, shich are horrible in this game, instead of this useless obscuring fancy smoke.

Kagurra
12-20-2013, 03:29 AM
They sould've made PhysX for Blood and Swords collisions, shich are horrible in this game, instead of this useless obscuring fancy smoke.

Agreed.

Kagurra
12-20-2013, 03:33 AM
The thread title says this is coming to next generation consoles aswell, but they don't use nvidia. Is that just misinformation or will that actually be in an update?

ProletariatPleb
12-20-2013, 09:13 AM
The thread title says this is coming to next generation consoles aswell, but they don't use nvidia. Is that just misinformation or will that actually be in an update?
>GPU Accelerated Physx on AMD Hardware

That's not happening. It's obvious misinformation. APEX turbulence only runs on nvidia hardware. The rest of the modules run fine on either so far.

Kagurra
12-20-2013, 09:15 AM
>GPU Accelerated Physx on AMD Hardware

That's not happening. It's obvious misinformation. APEX turbulence only runs on nvidia hardware. The rest of the modules run fine on either so far.

Yeah... I'm not an expert when it comes to this stuff.

ProletariatPleb
12-20-2013, 09:18 AM
Yeah... I'm not an expert when it comes to this stuff.
Lol I have no idea who thought this is coming to next-gen

http://i.minus.com/ibt0hOOOOOH4e7.jpg

Kagurra
12-20-2013, 09:19 AM
Lol I have no idea who thought this is coming to next-gen

http://i.minus.com/ibt0hOOOOOH4e7.jpg

I didn't. That's why I was confused by the thread title.

Also... I wish I could just pull out all these awesome situational pictures out of my magic hat like that.

catkiller97
12-20-2013, 09:26 AM
If someone wondering here, my Physx Shots i posted in Screen Thread :-

http://i5.minus.com/iM6LFborcfYIH.jpg


More :-

http://i7.minus.com/iJiWKqpgXVpkK.jpg

http://i5.minus.com/iwDwzX61lVkPN.jpg

Kagurra
12-20-2013, 09:32 AM
If someone wondering here, my Physx Shots i posted in Screen Thread :-

http://i5.minus.com/iM6LFborcfYIH.jpg


More :-

http://i7.minus.com/iJiWKqpgXVpkK.jpg

http://i5.minus.com/iwDwzX61lVkPN.jpg

They appear to not work with the Adewale DLC... Why does a small flintlock make more smoke than a giant blunderbuss?

ProletariatPleb
12-20-2013, 09:37 AM
They appear to not work with the Adewale DLC... Why does a small flintlock make more smoke than a giant blunderbuss?
Yeah, Freedom Cry doesn't seem it have turbulence implemented. Looks like regular smoke.

Oh man, I want a new Nvidia GPU already love that smoke but have to wait for GTX800 series;_;

Mr_Shade
12-20-2013, 11:19 AM
The extra PhysX effects are PC only.


Indeed...

I will alter the thread title - and move to the PC forum...

Mr_Gehab
12-20-2013, 01:43 PM
Anyone else get major FPS drop and stuttering when just turning this on? I don't even have to see the smoke, i just dip from 50/60 down to 35. I'm using a GTX 670 4GB..

StilleNachT
12-20-2013, 03:02 PM
I have the PC version runnign on a GtX 780 superclocked with Cooler from EVGA. I can max out the game fine. I have a PS4. I have a 55 inch Tv and a projector that give a 120 inch scren. I have set them up on each one above the other (ac4 on pc was free with nvidia code).

The only difference noticable, is slightly less Anti aliasing on PS4.

That's it. Perhaps now less smoke.

Kid yourself all you like, insult me all you like. That's the reality and the only one.

GPU card that costs near £600 alone and PS4 which doesn't cost that.

You can keep the master race mate. My wallet knows which is happier.

Every game I have on PS4 looks perfectly fine for me on projector and PS4. PLus I can trade the console games when I'm done.

End of.

Damian....
12-20-2013, 03:28 PM
The PS4 version is the PC version running at roughly mid-high settings with less AA, no HBAO lighting or soft shadows. Side by side there is quite a difference between maxed PC and PS4. You may be able to trade console games, but PC games are easily found brand new or within 3 months of release at 50-75% off retail. Along with Steam helping you build the ultimate collection that you can pass down for generations and will be backwards compatible for your grandchildren. :D

StilleNachT
12-20-2013, 03:35 PM
The PS4 version is the PC version running at roughly mid-high settings with less AA, no HBAO lighting or soft shadows. Side by side there is quite a difference between maxed PC and PS4. You may be able to trade console games, but PC games are easily found brand new or within 3 months of release at 50-75% off retail. Along with Steam helping you build the ultimate collection that you can pass down for generations and will be backwards compatible for your grandchildren. :D

There is not that much difference, I have even used Nvidia inspector to tweak it.

Damian....
12-20-2013, 03:50 PM
I have your prescription for glasses ready whenever you want to pick them up so you can see the difference rather than convincing yourself that there isn't much difference. :p

jamiestannard
12-20-2013, 04:02 PM
mine wont give me the update I have got the digital version don.t know why it won.t give me the update please help

Questions2ask
12-20-2013, 05:46 PM
I know it can be done on consoles because both Bioshock Infinate and Deadpool for the xbox 360 run on Nvidia Physx.

UMM that doesn't work, because the xbox 360 uses RADEON/ATI (Now known as AMD) and PhysX is an NVIDIA aspect, AMD cannot use PhysX.

Questions2ask
12-20-2013, 05:48 PM
This is the PC section, so All of you discussing Consoles should be taking your comments into the console section.

Voyager456
12-20-2013, 05:50 PM
There is not that much difference, I have even used Nvidia inspector to tweak it.

So what then go play ps4 version if its so much better.
Btw on topic physics custs my fps in half:(

Questions2ask
12-20-2013, 05:53 PM
I wasn't aware how amazing PC gaming is. I have ps4 xb1 and wii u but the reason I'll be buying games for those systems are the exclusives. Everything else I'm getting on my PC. Bought be a Titan graphics card, got it hooked up my 80 inch tv and got me a wireless controller and I have never been more happier and amazed. Ps4 and xb1 aren't really that next gen. Man I can't believe I was missing out all this time.

Just so you know that a GTX 780 ti is more powerful than a TITAN. So you're going to spend more money and get a less powerful car...I can see how that makes sense.

Sources:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphics/display/20131107235408_Stronger_Than_Titan_Nvidia_Launches _GeForce_GTX_780_Ti.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/11/07/nvidia-launches-gtx-780-ti-faster-than-titan-for-300-less/

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/07/nvidia-gtx-780-ti-3gb-review/

Questions2ask
12-20-2013, 05:54 PM
I have your prescription for glasses ready whenever you want to pick them up so you can see the difference rather than convincing yourself that there isn't much difference. :p

Google Glasses right?

AherasSTRG
12-20-2013, 08:59 PM
There is not that much difference, I have even used Nvidia inspector to tweak it.
If you cannot spot the difference with TXAA and HBAO+, it's ok, it is really subtle.
If you cannot spot the difference with Soft Shadows and Improved God Rays enabled, then you are not observant at all.
But, if you cannot see the difference between Volumetric Fog on and off, you must be ******* ****ing blind. Not "unable to see clearly", "BLIND".
Not to mention the improved Environmental quality, the High Reflecrion quality and the far superior aliasing techniques.

Damian....
12-20-2013, 09:07 PM
I have ran the game side by side with a friends PS4 and the difference between PC maxed out and PS4 is quite literally a generational leap.

StilleNachT
12-23-2013, 03:57 PM
I have ran the game side by side with a friends PS4 and the difference between PC maxed out and PS4 is quite literally a generational leap.

Ok when you troll like this, you have a little giggle, get a bit of the gid eh.

You realise this type of post benefits no one but the fat cats who slap price tags on GPU's right? You do get that right?

You also realise (as part of the master race) PC games are becoming more unoptimised to encourage more money spent on GPU overpriced upgrades. A statment to that effect was made by a ubisoft dev, who back tracked and said it was miss quoted go research it.

So when you lot come out with this crap about superior versions etc you're actually argueing with people who can play a very fine looking Ac4 on PS4, and comparig ps4 to admitedly sharper shadows, and improved AA that you have also paid hundreds of pounds surplus at least more, for that privalage.

Show me an Avid PC gamer now after the next ge release of consoles, and I'll show you one of two things.

Either someone very ritch, or someone very foolish.

I own the PC version of Ac4 as well as the PS4, so I can comment here about effects on PC version just as much as any of you.
I also doubt anyone of you has properly done the comparison of PS4 and PC maxed out in the same room in front of them, and not just watched youtube videos.

Show me a video of Comparison between PS4 and PC playing side by side, and show me this ridiculous claim of a "generational leap". If we were talking PS3 to PC perhaps I'd agree.

I own both, it would pain me nothing to play the PC version instead of the PS4 one, trust me, PS4 especially on the new dual shock is a better experience.

Additional puffs of smoke on guns aside..

Mr_Shade
12-23-2013, 04:13 PM
This is the PC section, so All of you discussing Consoles should be taking your comments into the console section.
indeed.

lets keep on topic and lose the console vs PC war comments..

By all means compare them - however please provide screenshots / video to show and back comments.

AherasSTRG
12-23-2013, 04:36 PM
Either someone very ritch, or someone very foolish.
I am neither rich nor foolish (well, I may be foolish, but not on gaming aspects nevertheless).
I own a GTX 760 / Intel i5 3570 / 8 GBs of RAM (mid-end PC) and I am playing the game at high settings / Volumetric Fog, HBAO+, god rays on / FXAA. Quality of picture aside, the game plays smoothly on my rig (60FPS 80% of the time). The PS4 was released here in Greece 10 days ago and I had the opportunity to play AC4 at a retailer. The Dual Shock features were indeed really well implemented. However, playing at 30 frames per second, when I was used at playing at 60 was a really bad experience for me. I did not need a side by side comparison to see how smoother 60 frames were compared to 30. PC version has got what the PS4 equivelant does not, 60 FPS. And as far I am concerned, I there is no actual argument to support a version which is rendered at half the frames.
So, if you have the rig to support at least high settings at 60 frames per second, I believe you should prefer the PC version.

Oh, I hadn't seen that Mr_Shade wanted proof (no offense, jk :P). So, here is the proof:
http://www.gamespot.com/videos/reality-check-do-we-need-60-fps-on-ps4-and-xbox-on/2300-6415658/
In the above link Gamespot explains the difference between 30 and 60 FPS and oh, how lucky we are, the example used is Assassin's Creed 4. The whole video runs at 60 frames per second in the new gamespot player.
The same video runs at 30 frames per second in the below youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00qUDL0Cxg

StilleNachT
12-23-2013, 05:27 PM
All of my tests were running Ac4. and watching the frame rate from the intro area on the island right up to the first settlement and running around it like a mad man, up and down roofs, starting fights the lot.

I did some tests on jackdaw during combat too.

The PC version cannot maintain 60fps and it has frame dips. To get near 60fps, even with mid settings, you can't rid yourself of this. You only get near when you bully your way past poor optimisation with a rig that costs near or over £1000. My rig cost me £2k at the time, (just a year ago) an i've updated it since with new GPU etc in summer when 780 gtx was released.

The dips are also due to the multi core issue in regard to all cores not being supported still. So 60fps dropping to 30 (as this is what the game does quite common on PC, not to 40 to 30) is quite visually stark.

I have a 780 gtx superclocked with cooler from EVGA it beats the titan in various scenario's for my to test this fully!

On ps4 game play is smooth and I see no drastic noticable frame dips anywhere that pulls me out of the game, and I'm looking for them.

In sum when the PC version can maintain 60fps this point is valid, currently it cant, I'm not sure it will without all the effects you claim the PS4 doen't have, are turned off. This renders your benefit of the PC version comared to PS4 quite useless. May I add PS4's god rays do not cause frame dips!

This is the video you should concearn yourself with which is solid gameplay and not a chap talking to you, I'll add this video was before Patch to give PS4 1080p and the new AA so it's now sharper than this video, but this gives the idea and it's solid proof.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfP81kOrI28

Or a video focusing on PS4, yeah this definately a "generation away" from PC... honest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkylPo0mfTU&feature=youtu.be

This next video is one of many which show PC issues regarding inconcistant frame rate ( Frame rates drops which are realyl evident, i'm sorry i can't play with) I'm sure you'll say of course you have no frame rate issues on your machine, but don't have a video to back up your incredable frame rates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zw3ZZ_WFVc

This is still on topic regarding effects in AC PC, it's just stating PS4 has most of them also.

Anykeyer
12-23-2013, 05:52 PM
For me the difference between PS4 and PC is more noticeable than PS3 to PS4. Please dont spam me with YT comparisions, its a joke because YT video quality is simply awful. I saw all 3 in person.
As for those apex/physx smoke effects Im not a big fan of them. And whoever made them did a very lazy job. I would not even touch chimney or guns smoke, there were totally fine. Instead ship cannons smoke could use some of those tweaks, there is a lot of it already - no need to clutter screen space just to make your fancy exclusive special effect obvious, and it disperses in a weird way especially when ship moves. And thats the only thing this apex really changes for the better - dispersing. That huge ammount of smoke guns now generate is just to make it more clearly visible, no one ever cared about its (negative) impact on gameplay. And to add to the joke Freedom Cry DLC (released one day apart btw) "shotgun" isnt affected by this apex particles patch. Blunderbuss makes much less smoke than regular guns, sure this does make sense...

AherasSTRG
12-24-2013, 12:29 AM
All of my tests were running Ac4. and watching the frame rate from the intro area on the island right up to the first settlement and running around it like a mad man, up and down roofs, starting fights the lot.

I did some tests on jackdaw during combat too.

The PC version cannot maintain 60fps and it has frame dips. To get near 60fps, even with mid settings, you can't rid yourself of this. You only get near when you bully your way past poor optimisation with a rig that costs near or over £1000. My rig cost me £2k at the time, (just a year ago) an i've updated it since with new GPU etc in summer when 780 gtx was released.

The dips are also due to the multi core issue in regard to all cores not being supported still. So 60fps dropping to 30 (as this is what the game does quite common on PC, not to 40 to 30) is quite visually stark.

I have a 780 gtx superclocked with cooler from EVGA it beats the titan in various scenario's for my to test this fully!

On ps4 game play is smooth and I see no drastic noticable frame dips anywhere that pulls me out of the game, and I'm looking for them.

In sum when the PC version can maintain 60fps this point is valid, currently it cant, I'm not sure it will without all the effects you claim the PS4 doen't have, are turned off. This renders your benefit of the PC version comared to PS4 quite useless. May I add PS4's god rays do not cause frame dips!

This is the video you should concearn yourself with which is solid gameplay and not a chap talking to you, I'll add this video was before Patch to give PS4 1080p and the new AA so it's now sharper than this video, but this gives the idea and it's solid proof.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfP81kOrI28

Or a video focusing on PS4, yeah this definately a "generation away" from PC... honest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkylPo0mfTU&feature=youtu.be

This next video is one of many which show PC issues regarding inconcistant frame rate ( Frame rates drops which are realyl evident, i'm sorry i can't play with) I'm sure you'll say of course you have no frame rate issues on your machine, but don't have a video to back up your incredable frame rates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zw3ZZ_WFVc

This is still on topic regarding effects in AC PC, it's just stating PS4 has most of them also.
No, man, you are losing my point.
But before I proceed to clarifications, I 'll discard the third video you provided, since the uploader has with a 95% certainty pirated the game. He posted his video on the 14th of November, while the official release, the day one patch and the associated Nvidia drivers came out on the 19th. He calls the game "another crappy port", all the while having illegally downloaded it. I will by no means accept such a version as representative of the status of the game on the PC right now.
But, even with a all the drivers and the day one patch and blah blah blah, my GTX 760 cannot maintain more than 35 frames with everything set to maximum's max. But, that was not my point in the first place. With settings similar to the PS4, I get 60FPS 80% of the time. You are correct, though: I have no video to show some solid evidence. However, I am telling you and everyone else who owns a GTX 7xx series card or a GTX 670 or a GTX 660ti to use the following settings and go do any mission not located in a jungle:
Environment Quality: High
Textures: High
Shadows: High
MSAA / FXAA
Volumetric Fog: On
God Rays: Low
Reflection Quality: High
Ambient Occlusion: HBAO+(low)

Questions2ask
12-24-2013, 07:55 AM
FYI you never even notice half the graphical settings in games due to being so involved in the game. Shadows are one such thing. Shadows draw so much power it's not even funny, yet people crank up the shadows when they don't even really get noticed during the games actual playing. You're going to be way too focused on the game to even notice them.

So the point here is there are people jacking up settings that significantly impact the game's performance that they won't even take notice to. So in short what I'm saying is people are causing their game to lag with these ludicrous settings they won't even notice for no reason.

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 11:43 AM
FYI you never even notice half the graphical settings in games due to being so involved in the game. Shadows are one such thing. Shadows draw so much power it's not even funny, yet people crank up the shadows when they don't even really get noticed during the games actual playing. You;re way too focused on the game you barely notice them.

So the point here is there are people jacking up settings that significantly impact the game's performance that they won't even take notice to. So in short what I'm saying is people are causing their game to lag with these ludicrous settings they won't even notice for no reason.

This is a good quote and bolsters my point precisely. I can pop my disc in the PS4 and play without worrying about tweaking settings to get round poor optimisation. I can focus purely on the game and not the tweaking.

This is relevant to this post as the PC versions recent addition of more PhysX to parse: has added to the the problems with an almost pointless addition. The PC needs some streamlining of messy code, not an additon on top of an already wonky cart.

Saying a PS4 video is from a pirated game is incredably funny!

Look the game was delievered early in many places in both UK and US by online retailers. Also to my knowledge there were NO pirate versions of ANY PS4 game, far far too early.

Youtube videos have an adjustable quality setting and to my knowledge both have the 1080p setting. The proof is on those videos or anyones you may find. Those comments about not watching the videos are quite childish really.

Like or not here's the facts:

PS4 was the favoured version. It's got the most sales, the least amount of pirating,and they got the most funding for this platform.
Only on a forum post like this do the PC owners of this game come to defend it, on the posts about poor PC performance however, people on the whole are less than happy, asking for a refund, let's sue ubi soft all the usual rubbish.

The defence really comes only when the silly console war thing reers it's head.

I don't favour console or PC over one another just for the sake of it. I simply play the most stable release and look after my money. I brought all the expensive equipment for my PC before PS4's release so at that point the PS3 being so fa behind PC, I had no choice for quality graphics with AA.

Thank god for PS4 as this is stable, like the ps3 version, but IT IS goregous most of the time which is sady unlike the PS3 version.

The difference in graphics your clinging on to from the "superior" PC version causes all the problems in stability for running the game for most people. Not everyone can afford to have expensive hardware like I have to get round poor programing.

While PC gamers are checking the latest GPU patch and tweaking this overclocking that. I'm sat playing the game, on my leather couch on a 55inch plasma screen, with the goregous new dual shock pad which feels like it just moulds into my hands with a great touch pad, and my Samsung Itab using the companion app LIKE A BOSS.

***I'll also add***
The refinded detailed positional rumble of the dual shock pad which works geat with the ships cannons, or even when you feel the sea bed under the ship when you almost run aground. I couldn't play now without this, it's a real nice addition.
********************

If your playing AC4 on PC with a 360 or PC pad, you're missing out truly. If you're playing with mouse and keyboard... WTF

dtlaw
12-24-2013, 12:47 PM
This is a good quote and bolsters my point precisely. I can pop my disc in the PS4 and play without worrying about tweaking settings to get round poor optimisation. I can focus purely on the game and not the tweaking.

This is relevant to this post as the PC versions recent addition of more PhysX to parse: has added to the the problems with an almost pointless addition. The PC needs some streamlining of messy code, not an additon on top of an already wonky cart.

Saying a PS4 video is from a pirated game is incredably funny!

Look the game was delievered early in many places in both UK and US by online retailers. Also to my knowledge there were NO pirate versions of ANY PS4 game, far far too early.

Youtube videos have an adjustable quality setting and to my knowledge both have the 1080p setting. The proof is on those videos or anyones you may find. Those comments about not watching the videos are quite childish really.

Like or not here's the facts:

PS4 was the favoured version. It's got the most sales, the least amount of pirating,and they got the most funding for this platform.
Only on a forum post like this do the PC owners of this game come to defend it, on the posts about poor PC performance however, people on the whole are less than happy, asking for a refund, let's sue ubi soft all the usual rubbish.

The defence really comes only when the silly console war thing reers it's head.

I don't favour console or PC over one another just for the sake of it. I simply play the most stable release and look after my money. I brought all the expensive equipment for my PC before PS4's release so at that point the PS3 being so fa behind PC, I had no choice for quality graphics with AA.

Thank god for PS4 as this is stable, like the ps3 version, but IT IS goregous most of the time which is sady unlike the PS3 version.

The difference in graphics your clinging on to from the "superior" PC version causes all the problems in stability for running the game for most people. Not everyone can afford to have expensive hardware like I have to get round poor programing.

While PC gamers are checking the latest GPU patch and tweaking this overclocking that. I'm sat playing the game, on my leather couch on a 55inch plasma screen, with the goregous new dual shock pad which feels like it just moulds into my hands with a great touch pad, and my Samsung Itab using the companion app LIKE A BOSS.

***I'll also add***
The refinded detailed positional rumble of the dual shock pad which works geat with the ships cannons, or even when you feel the sea bed under the ship when you almost run aground. I couldn't play now without this, it's a real nice addition.
********************

If your playing AC4 on PC with a 360 or PC pad, you're missing out truly. If you're playing with mouse and keyboard... WTF

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Me personally im enjoying playing at 2560x1440 resolution which looks stunning! And much more of a next gen look i feel, which consoles simply cant do...plus running at 60 +fps constant.

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 01:33 PM
Youtube videos have an adjustable quality setting and to my knowledge both have the 1080p setting. The proof is on those videos or anyones you may find. Those comments about not watching the videos are quite childish really.
You're kidding right? Its not quality, its resolution. RTFM
YT quality has always been bad, recently they lowered it even further.



While PC gamers are checking the latest GPU patch and tweaking this overclocking that. I'm sat playing the game, on my leather couch on a 55inch plasma screen, with the goregous new dual shock pad which feels like it just moulds into my hands with a great touch pad, and my Samsung Itab using the companion app LIKE A BOSS.
What stops PC players from doing the same? They cant seat on couch, attach TV or get gamepad?
This is so cliche. Nope, I didnt overclock or tweak anything in my PC for this game. Yet Im able to play it without a single crash. Most bugs I had are cross-platform, like social events. There are ofc PC-specific bugs, like MP AC legacy bonuses not working for anyone. But PS4 got its own share of platform specific stuff like this (AC Initiates bundle for example)



If your playing AC4 on PC with a 360 or PC pad, you're missing out truly. If you're playing with mouse and keyboard... WTF
I have xbox controller and I prefer it to PS's. But most of the time I use keyboard and mouse, because better, faster and more precise control means better comfort to me. BTW they are alone cost more than half of your PC with integrated video you call PS4.

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 01:46 PM
You're kidding right? Its not quality, its resolution. RTFM
YT quality has always been bad, recently they lowered it even further.


What stops PC players from doing the same? They cant seat on couch, attach TV or get gamepad?
This is so cliche. Nope, I didnt overclock or tweak anything in my PC for this game. Yet Im able to play it without a single crash. Most bugs I had are cross-platform, like social events. There are ofc PC-specific bugs, like MP AC legacy bonuses not working for anyone. But PS4 got its own share of platform specific stuff like this (AC Initiates bundle for example)


I have xbox controller and I prefer it to PS's. But most of the time I use keyboard and mouse, because better, faster and more precise control means better comfort to me. BTW they are alone cost more than half of your PC with integrated video you call PS4.

So basically you're playing AC with keyboard and mouse.

Ok pal.

Tell you what, this tsable no bug version, give us your specs, and show us a video of your game performance with stable frame rate, and then show your fps. Otherwise you're adding nothing to the thread.

You can't argue with the PS4 stability compared with Ac4. if you're taking about running Ac4 with a higher resolution than 1080p then I am ESPECIALLY interested in seeing your frame rates. That's when I really start to smell bullsh*t. I've seen 4 titans trying to cope with 4k Ac4, it didn't go too well.

I've read many threads saying they run solid 60 fps, and on every AAA release I will continue too, its a baseless troll trend that some kid has come up with and everybody thought oh that's fun, lets wind everyone up who can't run it.

You're 60fps counts for nothing unless you can prove it. Video or picture dtlaw or you're just chatting ****e mate.

The facts drop off and it's just dribbling rubbish now for the sake of arguement. The PC threads complaining are far too numerious for me to waste time on here tryi to teach you how to suck eggs.

Everything I've posted is valid and stands as proven. The only come back is someone who loves his keyboard and mouse gameplay, crap about youtube videos and conspiracy theories about pirated games, and people who claim to have amazing gameplay, even though they would have to own a PC that could run the death star single handedly to get past the poor multiple cpu and gpu support.

Accept it or not.

It's just how it is. I'd love to say the PC version of the game wasn't a console port, but IT WAS. PS4 and xboxone were first. You really need to accept this now. It's time guys.

Also ask yourself why this was. Hang on don't i can only imagine what crap you'll come out with it.

No matter what machine you prefer, the PC version of this game is second rate. It looks lovely when it's static for a nice screen cap' but try and play it with all the bells and whistles and you best have a machine that probably costs more than a budget car.

PS4 is cost effective and runs the game like butter. you can't argue that. The only thing that can save PC gaming is coming from Valve. People get behind the steam machines and then PC gaming will have a future. Otherwise...

Thread/ The smoke addition on the PC version was without logic to a game that needs a ton of patches for what's already there.

End.

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 02:00 PM
Looks like we have a fanboi here LOL

Yes, I play AC with keyboard and mouse and I find it more comfortable. There are certain games I play with controller, but in AC - definitely kb+mouse for me.

I didn say its "no bug version", but the game is solid stable, not a single crash in 60h of SP + 50h of MP. I didnt say anything about fps or resolution, I dont have 4K display to begin with, I get between 40 and 60 fps AND much better visuals. Dont use "cost efficient" right after you mentioned 55 inches plasma. It breaks any logic I already had to try really hard to find here.

You cant really tell which version is a port. I can easily say that everything was ported from Xbox 360, now prove me wrong LOL

PS And yes, as I said it earlier, Im not big fan of apex particles effects.

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 02:33 PM
Fanboy of what? I Own both versions.

Looking at your avatar, and your selective way of missing out parts of my post, oh and back tracking on you sayig solid 60fps (edit the post did we), I think you fit the bill of fan boy chum.

What does my 55inch plasma have to do with anything. I also stated I do have a very expensive PC. I can afford those things, that doesnt alter me saying buying an expensive PC for gaming is becoming quickly redunant due to broken games and inefficent drivers being released.

Your logic has more flaws than a hilton hotel. 40 to 60 fps in Ac 4 on pc isn't a gradual decline, it's a free fall. That drop in FPS is sudden and stark, it's distracting and game breaking for many.

Many have already said on these forums, the next gen console versions were done first for all the press etc, the current gen console were next with textures and effects dialed back.

The PC version is the next gen console versions with added visual tid bits added by Nvidia as stated in the main bulk of GPU advertising all over the PC version of the game. The PC of course also has the higher resolution support.

The higher resolution however is becoming pointless quickly due to the aformentioned performance issues. It's only usefull for screen capture and isn't realistic for gaming in it's current state unless of course you like an average of 25fps most of the time. All hail the master race.. my ARSE!

You, just like the other guy, Anykeeper are boasting of your own PC performance without any proof to back it up. You have not even mentioned what card you're using.

So it's invalid B.S.ing my friend until you do. All of it.

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 04:33 PM
Fanboy of PS4 obviously. What are you doing in PC section BTW? I dont spam console threads with pc vs console bs. In fact I dont even care what version you prefer. Why cant you do the same?

Whats wrong with my avatar? You want to make it personal? Nice way to get youself reported. In fact with that childish nickname misspelling you got your wish.
My selective way of answering? Im not going to point at every single obviously ridiculous and over the top statement you produce, sorry about that.
I didnt edit out anything about 60 fps. You made it up.

"Many have already said on these forums"
Many who? Give me official statement on those forums then

"40 to 60 fps in Ac 4 on pc isn't a gradual decline, it's a free fall. That drop in FPS is sudden and stark, it's distracting and game breaking for many."
LOL. Sure its so awfull even 30 with drops to 20 on PS4 is better. Dont happy with fps changing? Limit it. In fact I already do, it helps to get rid of vsync input lag in all games.

"The PC version is the next gen console versions with added visual tid bits added by Nvidia as stated in the main bulk of GPU advertising all over the PC version of the game."
Lets assume that you are right. Whats wrong with that? Improved version, I'll take it.

"boasting of your own PC performance without any proof to back it up"
LOL. I didnt even mention fps untill you asked about it,

"You have not even mentioned what card you're using."
Does it really matter? Im using N770L

"until you do. All of it."
Do what exactly? Can you stop being silly?

Moose.Qc
12-24-2013, 04:43 PM
I think this thread has went way off topic...:p As for PhysX smoke I have a GTX760 and can't even enable PhysX particle, it lags to much with it enabled....

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 05:00 PM
Fanboy of PS4 obviously. What are you doing in PC section BTW? I dont spam console threads with pc vs console bs. In fact I dont even care what version you prefer. Why cant you do the same?

blah blah blah TLDR?

This thread was first in console actually, got moved as posted there by mistake that's why I read it first.

All your answers are trying to get one up, and not properly addressing what I've typed. You'll get no more answers because what I have typed to you you've skipped around with crap. Already answered how I am not a PS4 fanboy, i'm in fact you could say a fan of the series, and i'm stating which is the most stable to play it with NO NOTICABLE frame drops, what so ever.

Ok Moose.Qc what've you said is what I have, only because of people like the PC fanboi above it got a bit complicated. The PhysX oarticle isn't working properly and it is causing more slow down. Someone has actually said in a post they wish you coud havea setting just for that to reduce it.

It's been poorly implemented and it's bst just leaving if off for now. I believe the TX Nvidia AA also isn't working properly, this is back up by the Nvidia experience telling me to turn it off using a 780 GTX superclocked by EVGA. I still leave it on though, works fine on my machine, I gather others with lower Nvidia cards may suffer though.

It's in need of a fair few patchies, when people get it tomorrow for Christmas and we get more feedback you "may" see a patch in the new few days. I wouldn't count on it though...

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 05:09 PM
"This threadwas first in console actually, got moved as posted there by mistake that's why I read it first."
Yes I know

"not properly addressing what I've typed"
I didnt even try

"I am not a PS4 fanboy"
OK

"and i'm stating which is the most stable to play it"
I saw in person, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 and PC versions. *I* prefer PC. I have 0 (zero) technical problems with it. It does not crash, hang or anything like this. Almost every single bug I had is not PC-specific and affects every version.
Can we just agree to disagree about our platfrorms of choice?

"It's in need of a fair few patchies, when people get it tomorrow for Christmas and we get more feedback you "may" see a patch in the new few days. I wouldn't count on it though..."
There will be patches because there are still unreleased DLCs LOL. Its always the same with AC.

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 05:15 PM
"Blah blah gurgle SQURREL... blah blah BIG BOY PANTS... blah blah I NEED POOPIE blah blah PC blah.

Look son, if you get too cranky you won't sleep tonight for santa because you'll be all worked up.

Naughty boys don't get their "I luvs my PC" undies and "i'm so l33t I cut my emo quiff with a Razor mouse" stick on face tat'.

Why don't you run along, just settle down with your squishy zergling, and watch toy story 2 on Tv like a good boy.

There's a good little chap...

The adults were talking.

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 05:18 PM
Granpa, can you just... idk... scram or something?

Moose.Qc
12-24-2013, 05:20 PM
Actually how many users are able to play with PhysX particle enable without any lag? Can you let me know some of your spec? SLI only?

I'm curious since my GTX760 on Quad core, 8 gigs of ram does not seem to cope much with it.... I have AC4 install on SSD as well...

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 05:21 PM
Granpa, can you just... idk... scram or something? Cheeky boys definately don't get santa coming down their chimney. Now I KNOW a young spirited PC gamer like yourself wants THAT, almost more than you wanting more of daddies money for that new box with the flashing lights: that lets you play Winnie the Pooh Pirates 4!

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 05:22 PM
Actually how many users are able to play with PhysX particle enable without any lag? Can you let me know some of your spec? SLI only?

I'm curious since my GTX760 on Quad core, 8 gigs of ram does not seem to cope much with it.... I have AC4 install on SSD as well...

I think unless Nvidia update the driver for the PhysX not many will. Trust me. I don't think SLI is working well ether. People with Titans are suffering. Notice I typed "Titans" in relation to SLI.

No AC game atm should push more than one Titan.

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 05:25 PM
For the record: Im not from catholic country

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 05:28 PM
For the record: Im not from catholic country

catholic country... god I love this kid.

Allah doesn't like naughty boys either, nor does krishna, especially not winnie the pooh!

Moose.Qc
12-24-2013, 05:32 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Hopefully Nvidia will whip something out shortly to help with this feature...

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 05:34 PM
I knew you would not be able to resist. No, its not muslim or hinduistic either. Keep going

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 05:36 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Hopefully Nvidia will whip something out shortly to help with this feature... Yup it's up there with the faith that man will cease war with themselves, and the WII U getting a decent game one day that dosn't look like a toddler barfed all over it.


We all keep reaching for that rainbow pal.

Anykeyer: Oh, Oh, I know, I know: Scientology. You love the martian men don't you.

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 05:42 PM
Oh ****, you got me
(no you dont)

StilleNachT
12-24-2013, 05:45 PM
Oh ****, you got me
(yes you did)

Glad we agree. Give cruise my regards kid.

AherasSTRG
12-24-2013, 06:03 PM
Seriously, talking to a console guy about frame rates is like talking to a nazist about equality.

Anykeyer
12-24-2013, 06:26 PM
Glad I sucked yours. Give cruise my regards kid.

Another round?

Questions2ask
12-24-2013, 08:05 PM
I think unless Nvidia update the driver for the PhysX not many will. Trust me. I don't think SLI is working well ether. People with Titans are suffering. Notice I typed "Titans" in relation to SLI.

No AC game atm should push more than one Titan.

You do realize that using a titan is a bad example due to the fact the GTX 780 ti is more powerful than the titan. So you need to use something that has more power and an example to get your point across.

dtlaw
12-24-2013, 10:16 PM
Fanboy of what? I Own both versions.

Looking at your avatar, and your selective way of missing out parts of my post, oh and back tracking on you sayig solid 60fps (edit the post did we), I think you fit the bill of fan boy chum.

What does my 55inch plasma have to do with anything. I also stated I do have a very expensive PC. I can afford those things, that doesnt alter me saying buying an expensive PC for gaming is becoming quickly redunant due to broken games and inefficent drivers being released.

Your logic has more flaws than a hilton hotel. 40 to 60 fps in Ac 4 on pc isn't a gradual decline, it's a free fall. That drop in FPS is sudden and stark, it's distracting and game breaking for many.

Many have already said on these forums, the next gen console versions were done first for all the press etc, the current gen console were next with textures and effects dialed back.

The PC version is the next gen console versions with added visual tid bits added by Nvidia as stated in the main bulk of GPU advertising all over the PC version of the game. The PC of course also has the higher resolution support.

The higher resolution however is becoming pointless quickly due to the aformentioned performance issues. It's only usefull for screen capture and isn't realistic for gaming in it's current state unless of course you like an average of 25fps most of the time. All hail the master race.. my ARSE!

You, just like the other guy, Anykeeper are boasting of your own PC performance without any proof to back it up. You have not even mentioned what card you're using.

So it's invalid B.S.ing my friend until you do. All of it.


Nope I play all my games at 2560x1440 and have solid 60+ with all of them some even into the hundreds depending on the game.
You forget that anti aliasing doesnt need to be high or even on in alot of cases because of the high res which helps alot with performance .Its actually becoming the norm with faster and faster gpus, plus helps sli and crossfire setups to stop cpu bottlenecks as it forces the load back onto the gpus.

Moose.Qc
12-24-2013, 10:30 PM
LOL you should have an impressive setup :) Did you pay 3 grand for that PC? Lets stick with the average PC user. We are unable to play this game with PhysX particle enable...

Questions2ask
12-24-2013, 11:18 PM
This whole topic and just abut every reply in it, is a complete joke. You're all arguing idiotic points that have no bearing on anything and constantly trying to justify your dumb *** responses with even more crap.

I'll clear this up now.

1. Quit comparing consoles to PC they aren't the same and cannot run things the same way.

2. No one gives a **** if anyone can run the game at triple max settings with 3.6 overlay special edition blu-ray dolby 6.5 extended drivers edition from the directors chair point of view in 2080 thousand P

3. No one gives a rats *** if anyone's computer is $5 or $100,000 if your comp does what it wants then it's no one's business. That ****ing argument is ******ed.

4. Quit trying to run games at settings that your computer cannot handle then trying to argue with people about that saying you have some random set up that can run other games just fine because none of that crap matters. You cannot ever use one game your running as a comparison to another and try to use that as a baseline. EVERY GAME RUNS IT'S OWN WAY. Even if that does defy people's common logic.

5. People need to knock off the "I have max settings" crap like you're all that when half the **** people are bragging about aren't even noticeable in the game while playing.

6. Who gives a **** if the water has realistic spray effects, or good reflections. It doesn't do anything to help you finish the game, so it's pointless.

Seriously, just knock this **** off already, this whole topic is complete and utter ******** where it has all of you blaming each other for arguing with each other and are trolling and it's ****ing ******ed.

Moose.Qc
12-24-2013, 11:58 PM
Totally agree Questions2ask, however pre tail what is the subject? IMO Most descent computer specs are unable to take advantage of this feature, taxing to much FPS on my GTX 760.... Just saying...Do I meet the requirement? Yes I do, however from my experience, this game is a very bad port to PC, not optimize to take advantage of our hardware as it should, but then again that it's just my opinion, C'mon Quebec Dev, faite claire vaut intentions et svp, patcher moi ce jeux.... Faite savoir que le Quebec est sur la map après tous...

strigoi1958
12-25-2013, 12:54 AM
It seems to run ok on my gtx670 I've posted YT videos with links on the forum if you check some of my other posts. Plus you can see my settings on a previous post as well. But even though the smoke is a nice effect it puts me at a disadvantage because even on low the cloud blocks your view of the enemy but they still see you. :D now that said....

People are free to play the game on whatever device they wish and if they feel it is good enough it doesn't matter if it's a pc or a console.... I'm glad I play on a pc (coz I cannot manage a controller ;)) and the quality of an xbone or a ps4 isn't important to me. I think it is now the season of goodwill to all men (and women ;)) so I'm wishing you all MERRY CHRISTMAS

Questions2ask
12-25-2013, 05:11 AM
It seems to run ok on my gtx670 I've posted YT videos with links on the forum if you check some of my other posts. Plus you can see my settings on a previous post as well. But even though the smoke is a nice effect it puts me at a disadvantage because even on low the cloud blocks your view of the enemy but they still see you. :D now that said....

People are free to play the game on whatever device they wish and if they feel it is good enough it doesn't matter if it's a pc or a console.... I'm glad I play on a pc (coz I cannot manage a controller ;)) and the quality of an xbone or a ps4 isn't important to me. I think it is now the season of goodwill to all men (and women ;)) so I'm wishing you all MERRY CHRISTMAS

you're correct play however you want, we all have the same game, and whether you use KB and mouse, a controller or even a frigging Steering wheel, we're all still doing the same things during the game and the end result is the same.

I play on PC with a controller because that's my preference, and my game is 100% complete same as people with a KB and mouse, same as people on a console. Not sure wtf people keep trying to undermine each other with moronic comparisons that have no bearing on anything.

If I want to jack up the settings on my game so it crashes every 10 min, I will, if I want to shovel coal down my pants and turn all the settings on low, I will, it's not changing the outcome.