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killzab
12-10-2013, 03:11 PM
I remember first weeks sales not being good with Black Flag selling 60% less than ACIII.

But with Next-gen consoles now out, how are sales going ? Did the game make up for some of the lost sales with people waiting for their PS4/Xone ?

ProletariatPleb
12-10-2013, 03:22 PM
They haven't given any sales figures yet, why do you ask?

killzab
12-10-2013, 03:24 PM
They haven't given any sales figures yet, why do you ask?

Curiosity, and to know if the series is going to keep being successful or if it's starting to suffer some fatigue ( and suffer from ACIII :rolleyes: ).

ProletariatPleb
12-10-2013, 03:27 PM
Curiosity, and to know if the series is going to keep being successful or if it's starting to suffer some fatigue ( and suffer from ACIII :rolleyes: ).
Of course it's successful it makes a LOT of money.

killzab
12-10-2013, 03:28 PM
I know but sales going down by 60% is kinda bad don't you think ?

ProletariatPleb
12-10-2013, 03:37 PM
I know but sales going down by 60% is kinda bad don't you think ?
It was the same with battlefield as well, gen transition no doubt but obviously sales must've picked up.

Let's say they spend $40 million on the game. 1 game sells for ~$60. Do the math it ain't as scary as it sounds. They break even easily and then it's all profits.

EDIT: And that was 60% down in UK.

ladyleonhart
12-10-2013, 03:39 PM
It certainly seems to be getting more positive reviews by those who don't mind the pirate theme and the naval aspect.

ze_topazio
12-10-2013, 03:44 PM
AC3 sold a lot do to a hardcore campaign that appealed a lot to American patriotism, old fans were hyped that it was going to be the much awaited real sequel that they were waiting for since AC2 and others were convinced by Ubisoft countless promises.

"American patriot" buyers have no interest on the other games of the series, many old fans were disappointed with 3 and moved on, many new fans were simply not impressed by 3 and moved on too and others simply got tired after so many sequels, its no wonder the sales are lower, Ubisoft was already expecting it, believing that the other 60% that didn't bought the game were waiting for the next gen is absurd, and series are always like this, some chapters sell more than others.

pirate1802
12-10-2013, 03:48 PM
They haven't given any sales figures yet, why do you ask?

Curiositeh. Any other questions?

ProletariatPleb
12-10-2013, 03:51 PM
Ubisoft was already expecting it
Funny because in the investor conference they said they expected 10mn AC4 sales.

MIA SILENT
12-10-2013, 04:00 PM
Funny because in the investor conference they said they expected 10mn AC4 sales.

Wouldn't be surprised if they reach that target. AC4 is one of the only games worth buying for next-gen. But if AC3 sold what, 12.5mn? and sales of AC4 are down 60% in the UK - it might take more time to reach the numbers.

ze_topazio
12-10-2013, 04:08 PM
Funny because in the investor conference they said they expected 10mn AC4 sales.

I seem to recall Yves saying, a couple months before the release of the game, they were expecting lower sales.

SixKeys
12-10-2013, 04:12 PM
I sincerely hope that if AC4 doesn't reach the sales figures of AC3, Ubi execs won't take it as a sign that it's because fans want more linear games. The reviews and player response have been good, I hope that is reflected in the sales. If anything is harming the sales currently, it's franchise fatigue, pure and simple.

ProletariatPleb
12-10-2013, 04:12 PM
I seem to recall Yves saying, a couple months before the release of the game, they were expecting lower sales.
What I just mentioned was on 12th November. 10mn AC4 sales, 6.5mn Watch_Dogs sales, 3 something for Crew.

Sushiglutton
12-10-2013, 06:34 PM
Feeling is it has sold less, but been received a lot better by the gaming community. People got burned by AC3 which didn't live up to its hype, so a decrease in sales was expected.

Mr_Shade
12-10-2013, 07:25 PM
Feeling is it has sold less, but been received a lot better by the gaming community. People got burned by AC3 which didn't live up to its hype, so a decrease in sales was expected.
hmm I don't know..

Sales of the PS3 / Xbox 360 version - would be slightly lower than most expected - due to people waiting for next gen ;)


The entire sales, I'm sure, will speak for themselves, when they are made public ;)

Landruner
12-10-2013, 07:37 PM
@ Killzab even the sales for AC4 could be have bellow the sales of AC3 - you have to consider that their prognostic are always based upon pre-order sales, converted later then with the fiscal year in order to see if the game was a failure or not.
Even if they were expecting getting less that AC3 for the pre-order sales it is still a lot of money that they got for that game, and I am sure they did not fail with AC4.

Megas_Doux
12-10-2013, 08:15 PM
AC III sold ALOT for AC´s standarts, and dissappointed both many hardcore and newcomers fans. Plus, we have the transition between current and next gen, I think it sold as the same level of the previous games in the franchise.

ze_topazio
12-21-2013, 01:36 PM
I was having random fun in VGchartz and suddenly i remembered this thread.

According to VGchartz AC4 sales as of 07th Dec 2013:

PS3: 1.56m
Xbox 360: 1.44m
WiiU: 0.08m
PC: 0.21m
PS4: 0.75m
Xbox One: 0.35m

Total: 4,39m

ProletariatPleb
12-21-2013, 01:41 PM
I was having random fun in VGchartz and suddenly i remembered this thread.

According to VGchartz AC4 sales as of 07th Dec 2013:

PS3: 1.56m
Xbox 360: 1.44m
WiiU: 0.08m
PC: 0.21m
PS4: 0.75m
Xbox One: 0.35m

Total: 4,39m
Just a heads up that they're only taking retail sales into consideration, not digital.

Guybrush1978
12-21-2013, 02:00 PM
I know that VG Chartz is not the best system to know sales, but it's a good tool to compare I guess. And it's seems like AC IV's sales are really low in comparaison with the previous games of the serie, even with Revelations.

AC IV (6 weeks of sales PS3/XBOX 60/WIIU/PC, 4 weeks for PS4, 3 weeks for Xbox One) : 4,39m (as said by ze topazio)

AC Revelations (6 weeks of sales PS3/XBOX 360, not yet in sales for PC at this moment) : 5,30m

The sales are lower, especially for a game sold for 6 game systems. And in 2011, the number of PS3/XBOX360 sold was lower too (160m units now, 124m in december 2011). For me, it will not be easy the sales can sell as the same level than the previous games.

LoyalACFan
12-21-2013, 02:05 PM
I know that VG Chartz is not the best system to know sales, but it's a good tool to compare I guess. And it's seems like AC IV's sales are really low in comparaison with the previous games of the serie, even with Revelations.

AC IV (6 weeks of sales PS3/XBOX 60/WIIU/PC, 4 weeks for PS4, 3 weeks for Xbox One) : 4,39m (as said by ze topazio)

AC Revelations (6 weeks of sales PS3/XBOX 360, not yet in sales for PC at this moment) : 5,30m

The sales are lower, especially for a game sold for 6 game systems. And in 2011, the number of PS3/XBOX360 sold was lower too (160m units now, 124m in december 2011). For me, it will not be easy the sales can sell as the same level than the previous games.

I find that hard to believe. Revelations sold quite poorly if I recall correctly, and AC4 has gotten a ton of exposure as a next-gen launch title, combined with much better PR and critical reception than ACR.

ProletariatPleb
12-21-2013, 02:08 PM
I find that hard to believe. Revelations sold quite poorly if I recall correctly, and AC4 has gotten a ton of exposure as a next-gen launch title, combined with much better PR and critical reception than ACR.
7mn sales was a figure I remember quite early on, then it can only increase.

Guybrush1978
12-21-2013, 04:20 PM
You're right, 7mn was the figure given by Ubisoft in february 2012 for sell-in 2011

https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/fr-FR/presse/detail.aspx?cid=tcm:100-39187-16&ctid=tcm:95-27313-32 (in french)

"Les ventes solides d’Assassin’s Creed® Revelations, avec près de 7 millions d’unités en sell-in, légèrement supérieures aux attentes. Le jeu s’est classé 7ème meilleure vente de l’industrie sur l’année calendaire 2011."

"Solid sales for Assassin’s Creed® Revelations, coming in at close to 7 millions sell-in units, which slightly exceeded forecasts. The title was the industry 7th best seller in calendar 2011"

ProletariatPleb
12-21-2013, 04:22 PM
You're right, 7mn was the figure given by Ubisoft in february 2012 for sell-in 2011

https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/fr-FR/presse/detail.aspx?cid=tcm:100-39187-16&ctid=tcm:95-27313-32 (in french)

"Les ventes solides d’Assassin’s Creed® Revelations, avec près de 7 millions d’unités en sell-in, légèrement supérieures aux attentes. Le jeu s’est classé 7ème meilleure vente de l’industrie sur l’année calendaire 2011."

"Solid sales for Assassin’s Creed® Revelations, coming in at close to 7 millions sell-in units, which slightly exceeded forecasts. The title was the industry 7th best seller in calendar 2011"
English version :p
https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/en-US/press/detail.aspx?cid=tcm:99-39187&ctid=tcm:95-27313-32

roostersrule2
12-21-2013, 04:22 PM
I remember someone posting that ACR had reached 7.2 million outselling ACB, so ACR sold fairly well.

Guybrush1978
12-21-2013, 04:25 PM
English version :p
https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/en-US/press/detail.aspx?cid=tcm:99-39187&ctid=tcm:95-27313-32

;) Thanks, I didn't find it...

ProletariatPleb
12-21-2013, 04:26 PM
;) Thanks, I didn't find it...
Oh it was just the link you posted, I just pressed 'English" on top.

ze_topazio
12-21-2013, 04:29 PM
I would say selling 7 millions is impressive, not many games achieve that.

Guybrush1978
12-21-2013, 04:33 PM
Oh it was just the link you posted, I just pressed 'English" on top.

I'm ashamed :rolleyes:

For Brotherhood, 6,5 millions for sell-in in 2010

"Solid sales for Assassin’s Creed® Brotherhood, with over 6.5 million sell-in units."

https://www.ubisoftgroup.com/en-US/press/detail.aspx?cid=tcm:99-28692&ctid=tcm:95-27313-32 (I pressed "English" myself this time...)