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ArgonV
07-14-2004, 01:58 AM
Hey Oleg!!! If you did a WWI sim you could load it full of giant Russian goodies! Think PE-8 meets the Red Baron here... Wouldn't one of these be nice to fly about in!?!

http://www.wingswithwires.com/fswwi/IlyaV.jpg

http://www.wingswithwires.com/fswwi/IlyaV2.jpg

"Go Fly A Kite!"
-Jason R.
Head FS-WWI Project Leader
http://www.ww1sims.com/uploads/logo.jpg
FS-WWI Plane Pack Site (http://argonv.tripod.com/FSWWI_Page/readme.htm)

ArgonV
07-14-2004, 01:58 AM
Hey Oleg!!! If you did a WWI sim you could load it full of giant Russian goodies! Think PE-8 meets the Red Baron here... Wouldn't one of these be nice to fly about in!?!

http://www.wingswithwires.com/fswwi/IlyaV.jpg

http://www.wingswithwires.com/fswwi/IlyaV2.jpg

"Go Fly A Kite!"
-Jason R.
Head FS-WWI Project Leader
http://www.ww1sims.com/uploads/logo.jpg
FS-WWI Plane Pack Site (http://argonv.tripod.com/FSWWI_Page/readme.htm)

p1ngu666
07-14-2004, 03:12 AM
tasty plane, what is it?http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/mysig3.jpg
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Tooz_69GIAP
07-14-2004, 06:16 AM
The aircraft is the Il'ya Murometz heavy bomber, a military modification of Sikorskiy's "Le Grand" passenger aircraft which was the largest aircraft in existence at the time, and also became the first ever heavy bomber. Somewhere around 70-80 of these behemoths were produced during WWI, and they equipped the world's first heavy bomber squadron: the EVK Squadron.

http://angela.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/im-salms.jpg

http://angela.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/ilya_murom-1.jpg

http://angela.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/im-float0.jpg



whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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p1ngu666
07-14-2004, 06:51 AM
those tanks, are they for fuel?:\

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/mysig3.jpg
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Tooz_69GIAP
07-14-2004, 07:13 AM
Dunno. Prolly.

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/fileadmin/Image_Archive/badges/69giap_badge_tooz.jpg (http://giap.webhop.info)
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ArgonV
07-14-2004, 03:46 PM
Just to confirm it is a Il'ya Murometz V type. And yes those things on the top front fuselage are fuel tanks.

"Go Fly A Kite!"
-Jason R.
Head FS-WWI Project Leader
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FS-WWI Plane Pack Site (http://argonv.tripod.com/FSWWI_Page/readme.htm)

LeadSpitter_
07-14-2004, 04:47 PM
after bob and the med, hopefully oleg considers a wwi addon. They said 1c is liscensed to 5 sims

aep
aep2? "bombers expansion? maybe"
PF
PFEP? "addon aircraft pack probally"
bob
some addons for bob maybe.

wwi seems to make the most sense for the FB/PF engine, it would make cpt haddock alot of doe too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/LSIG1.gif

arcadeace
07-14-2004, 05:44 PM
I fully agree. And I think enthusiasts would eat it up. Dogfighting in its finest.

DGC763
07-14-2004, 07:42 PM
The major problem is the FM issues of a WWI flight sim, very little test data available on even the most abundant aircraft. Anecdotal evidence does't really cut it.

And oh the joys of using a blip switch as a throttle in the camel and such. I can hear the whining now.

Not to say that I didn't love RB though.

"Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never be in peril." (III.31) Sun Tzu

warweapon2
07-14-2004, 07:59 PM
That plane ACTUALLY did perform bombing runs on Berlin during the first world war with great success. I've read alot about the air wars in europe during the first world war.

ArgonV
07-14-2004, 11:55 PM
Yes only 2 were ever downed... And one of them because of mechanical failure and not due to enemy fire! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I do hope Oleg one day puts the IL-2: FB engine to some good use by creating a decent WWI sim. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BTW, here's some cockpit pics of the above:

http://www.wingswithwires.com/fswwi/IlyaV3.jpg

http://www.wingswithwires.com/fswwi/IlyaV4.jpg

"Go Fly A Kite!"
-Jason R.
Head FS-WWI Project Leader
http://www.ww1sims.com/uploads/logo.jpg
FS-WWI Plane Pack Site (http://argonv.tripod.com/FSWWI_Page/readme.htm)

Tooz_69GIAP
07-15-2004, 03:55 AM
Oh my god, look at teh view from the pit!!!!! True panoramic visibility!!! Very cool.

And the interior is just ridiculously simple (I've seen pix of the passenger liner version, had room for up to 16 folks fairly comfortably I think).

Man I'd love to fly a decent WWI sim!!!!!

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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Komandir Eskadrilya, 69th GShAP
Za Rodinu!
Petition to stop the M3 motorway through the Tara-Skryne Valley in Co. Meath, Ireland (http://www.petitiononline.com/hilltara/petition.html)

p1ngu666
07-15-2004, 07:00 AM
there are flying planes from ww1 still.
hardest part would be the torque/gyro, the engines mainly spun with the propeller, rather in ww2 they was static

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BennyMoore
07-25-2004, 12:39 PM
No, unless I'm very mistaken, only some of them did that, like the Sopwith Camel and a few others.

Brotrob
07-25-2004, 01:12 PM
Hello,

in ww1 there were inline-engines (on Spad, Se 5, Albatros D types, Fokker DVII and so on ) and radial engines . On ALL radial engines the engine-star rotated and produced huge torgue. They also lost much oil due to the centrifugal-forces. Famous aircraft designs with rotating-radial-engines were Nieuports 11,17 and 28, all Sopwiths, many Fokkers as Fok E I -E IV, the triplanes from Fokker and Sopwith and so on.

By the way :

gimme a WWI sim !!! Ahhhh !!!

Brotrob

Sturm_Williger
07-25-2004, 03:06 PM
OMFG, imagine FB's eye-candy, FM's, DM's etc, in a WWI flight sim ! :surprised http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif :
Drool, slaver !

Think about the virtual war servers, finding some juicy recce plane hanging over the front, shell bursts going off below... ( remember reading somewhere that spotter planes were bounced about by the turbulence of shells passing alongside http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif )

I don't care if the AI is programmed by a carrot, I'd buy it !!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Luftcaca
07-25-2004, 03:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BennyMoore:
No, unless I'm very mistaken, only some of them did that, like the Sopwith Camel and a few others.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you can add to that the Fokker DRI, the Nieuports too, If I remember well...even the Eindeker isnt it?
I think this type of engine was called Rotative engine. well at least in french I knew its " Moteur rotatif "

any of you played Red Baron I and II? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I used to play a LOT
I remember the campaigns in RB2 were awesome, with full of docs about aces, diff sqads and their paintings...you could also been transfered...and best of all: you could actually hear the ennemy pilot scream in pain when he was hit by a bullet http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Formerly ''known'' as Gunther Aeroburst

wants flyable:

early 110's
IL-10
Pe-3

BennyMoore
07-25-2004, 03:35 PM
Say, does anyone know why that design was like that? Also, what didn't rotate? Was there a shaft connected to the plane or something odd like that? The engine and the propeller turned the plane rather than the engine and plane turning the propeller? Tail wagging dog and all?

BigganD
07-25-2004, 03:44 PM
omg..ww1..

"Get close .. when he fills the entire windscreen ... then you can't possibly miss." Erich Hartmann

Brotrob
07-25-2004, 04:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Originally posted by BennyMoore:
Say, does anyone know why that design was like that? Also, what didn't rotate? Was there a shaft connected to the plane or something odd like that? The engine and the propeller turned the plane rather than the engine and plane turning the propeller? Tail wagging dog and all?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi,

on a rotary-engine, the crankshaft remains stationary ( fixed on the aircraft ) and the whole cylinderblock ( in this case the cylinder-ring or -star) rotates around it. The Propeller is fixed on the cylinder-block. This rotating leads to the loss of engine -oil which I described obove. Thats the reason why german Siemens Halske rotary engienes were very good on paper in late WW1 , but not in praxis, couse there was nearly no oil left for the Fliegertruppe .

Oh my god, WWI topics in General Discussion ! It must be heavon ! Or just OT ???

Greetings,

Brotrob

JAS_Gripen
07-26-2004, 03:35 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Now would that be cool.