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XyZspineZyX
03-20-2003, 09:29 PM
Hi Oleg,

We are a community of Spanish flightsimmers that fly IL-2 and who are going to fly FB. We realize that you accept contributions from 3rd party developers to add new planes. So we have started one project:

TO REPRESENT THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR!

We have set up a portal to coordinate this project:

http://webcindario.com/scw

Firstly, we are making a database about Spanish Civil War history. Then, we are going to start modelling airplanes and everything that's necessary. There are a lot of people in our community who can do the models and who can spend the neccesary time and do the neccesary effort to make it possible.

Be sure we have the ability to do it, but we only want to know one thing:

Are you interested in this idea? If not, other companies have offered their support, but we have decided in a poll that the best platform for a Spanish Civil War simulator should be the Forgotten Battles engine (or even the new simulator engine).

It goes along well with the premise of the title. Spanish Civil War has been always a "Forgotten Battle" in itself. Let's address this. The Spanish Civil War started in 1936 with biplanes and finished in 1939 with the Bf-109E vs. I-16 Type 10. A lot of planes and tactics of World War 2 were tested there and pilots from a lot of countries fought there: Russia, Germany, France, United Kingdom, United States, Italy, Poland, etc.

It might be very interesting, don't you think?

If you might feel interested in this project and want to send us an e-mail privately, our contact is:

tuckie@terra.es

Thanks in advance for your time.

XyZspineZyX
03-20-2003, 09:29 PM
Hi Oleg,

We are a community of Spanish flightsimmers that fly IL-2 and who are going to fly FB. We realize that you accept contributions from 3rd party developers to add new planes. So we have started one project:

TO REPRESENT THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR!

We have set up a portal to coordinate this project:

http://webcindario.com/scw

Firstly, we are making a database about Spanish Civil War history. Then, we are going to start modelling airplanes and everything that's necessary. There are a lot of people in our community who can do the models and who can spend the neccesary time and do the neccesary effort to make it possible.

Be sure we have the ability to do it, but we only want to know one thing:

Are you interested in this idea? If not, other companies have offered their support, but we have decided in a poll that the best platform for a Spanish Civil War simulator should be the Forgotten Battles engine (or even the new simulator engine).

It goes along well with the premise of the title. Spanish Civil War has been always a "Forgotten Battle" in itself. Let's address this. The Spanish Civil War started in 1936 with biplanes and finished in 1939 with the Bf-109E vs. I-16 Type 10. A lot of planes and tactics of World War 2 were tested there and pilots from a lot of countries fought there: Russia, Germany, France, United Kingdom, United States, Italy, Poland, etc.

It might be very interesting, don't you think?

If you might feel interested in this project and want to send us an e-mail privately, our contact is:

tuckie@terra.es

Thanks in advance for your time.

XyZspineZyX
03-20-2003, 11:14 PM
Bump!! supporting it Tuckie....tio te est√° quedando chulo chulo el portal....maŮana nos vemos en el flaps&birras http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
03-20-2003, 11:17 PM
Wow, that sounds awesome and very interesting. Heres hoping you get the support.

XyZspineZyX
03-20-2003, 11:26 PM
You have my support http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Regards, AH_Cantos.

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 12:04 AM
A well deserved bump!

Looking forward to this project. Any aircraft planed soon? So many to choose from... The SCW is such an interesting period in aviation.

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XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 12:34 AM
My entire support to you and your project!!!

Hope Oleg count on you!!

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XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 12:57 AM
como seria BUMP en espaŮol?

Boing?

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XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 04:04 AM
I will lend my voice to support this project.

The Spanish Civil War was a pivotal moment in world history that would make an excellent theater for a sim.

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XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 06:11 AM
I give my support to the SCW project too.

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 07:46 AM
YEAH, y was dreaming which this a lot of time , al mi suport for your proyect TUCKIE

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 09:51 AM
Great idea... I love it.

Count with my support !!!!!!!!

Biplanes vs. Bf.109s... sounds really interesting http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

Low rate primitive WW1 derivated MGs vs. never-seen-before ciclic rates of Russian and German MGs.

Realiable fighter-cannons used for the first time in air combat.

The first Stukas, Hs.123 and I-15s developing Cadenas-del-Aire Tactics for ground support.

Russian, French, British, Italian, American airplanes fighting together/against. The very first bombers faster than fighters to test Douet's Theory.


GREAT !!!!!


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XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 10:05 AM
Hi

Great idea, great project Tuckie!



StG111_Shang

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XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 11:09 AM
Of course I support the project

Humans rarely live long enough to see the consequences of their mistakes

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 04:15 PM
Interesting period of the history and besides novel. Great idea Tuckie.

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 04:56 PM
What a great idea showing Oleg this proyect! I think he shouldn't let this be supported by any other company but 1C:Maddox Games.

I know some people who are working on this proyect and they have started developing stunnig 3D models.

I think this could a best-seller sim because of the great development that happened to World War II aircraft thanks to spanish Civil War.

Oleg, take a look at it, I think you have an undiscovered gold mine here.

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"Halcones Rojos" virtual squadron

http://alianza.meristation.com/halcones

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 05:29 PM
My best wishes for this promising project.

If one day I could fly in a Hs123 or a Bf109D over the Ebro...

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 06:09 PM
HE-51's I'm ready. Last good Spanish Civil War was with Luftwaffe Commander and that was not really too bad.

Excellent project....

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XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 08:03 PM
Very nice idea http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 08:39 PM
The Forgotten Baron supports this project. What d'ya think Oleg? I'M intrigued.

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 08:46 PM
Great idea... BUMP!!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

'Here I come God,here I come you f***in rat!'

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 08:54 PM
I vote for this proyect. The spanish War was the begining of the WW2 air combat.

‚°GO FOR IT!

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XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 08:56 PM
I find a stupendous idea, you have my support.

Serious a great experience. !A shammer finally gives the Spanish civil war!

Greetings. HR_Vadder.

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 09:56 PM
Just great!!!

IL2 and Spanish Civil War were born to be together.
You should know te SCW to understand what happened in the skis of the WWII.
Came on with the project!!!

XyZspineZyX
03-21-2003, 11:00 PM
Did Oleg say yes to the project?

Was the next simulation going to be related with the Spanis Civil War?


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XyZspineZyX
03-22-2003, 05:41 AM
Superb project!

I‚¬īve been waiting for such a thing for a long time. I hope this idea get some attention from Mr Maddox.

A question; Is it posible for 3rd parties to create terrains at this stage of the sim?

regards

flecha

XyZspineZyX
03-22-2003, 11:35 AM
Have Oleg read this threat yet??

I hope he keeps thinking about this great project!!

VYPER

101 Escuadron de Combate Virtual

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Message Edited on 03/22/0311:37AM by VYPER.101

XyZspineZyX
03-22-2003, 04:58 PM
OHH YESSSSS!!!!!

Outstanding idea... imagine the Stukas model A bombing Guernika escorted by early 109Es against republican I16 type 18 COOL!!

Please Oleg support this!!!!


Arriba la comunida EspaŮola!! ;-)

XyZspineZyX
03-22-2003, 08:02 PM
Im in for it, i'll sign on to help do research on planes and such, also, can someone tell me, did the prototype Stuka have a tail section kind of like the 110 i guess, and wasnt it replaced for the tail now due to failure in dives? Thanks

~aaron white

XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 03:06 AM
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XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 02:01 PM
boimp

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XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 03:21 PM
I'd love to see a sim based on the SCW/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 03:37 PM
me too, but second after the med /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 07:53 PM
This Mod will be GREAT, please accept it!

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XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 09:43 PM
Any news on this project? I gess I'll have to visit your webiste more often and find out how things are going.

And any I-16 tip-5 planned? The early moscas should be easy to make using the current 3D models.

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XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 09:50 PM
Ehum, this is what I meant with my other post,

first

BUMP!

this is a great opoturnity for oleg and company
to expand their sim more,
and do it with

lower costs
and less working their brains out,

how can they say no to that,

they must do this.


by the way,
here is a good site with
pics of most of the planes partisipating
in the Spanish sivil war,

http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/did.html
enjoy /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 10:57 PM
Excellent idea!!!

Salute

XyZspineZyX
03-23-2003, 11:33 PM
Bump!

Just waiting from a word coming from Oleg...

XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 12:02 AM
OH GOD!!!

This MUST be accepted... the SCW was the training camp of the new aviation era in that time...

The SCW was the real FORGOTTEN BATTLE

;-)

XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 11:23 AM
Nice Tuckie JG52!!!

Btw, Have you get any reply from Oleg or Oleg's Team about?

In any case, I DO SUPPORT THIS IDEA.

It should be very interesting flying the time when the modern concept of pairs against huge formations were developed.

Regards

Chebi

XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 11:36 AM
Well, this will mean a Pedron...and will require a total 3D model of the Heinkel 111. The nose is different, the gondola is different, the pilots seat different, the gunners different, the bombsight too...and even the wings...ARG!

Anyway, if it is a serius project, I will try hard.

Buena suerte!

"Continuity is power".

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XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 06:24 PM
Hey, I think I can help with the modeling part... I‚¬īm a 3D hobbist since 2 years ago, I use Lightwave 3D so won‚¬īt have any problem converting objects to .3ds if you use 3D studio ;-)

XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 06:25 PM
great idea!!!! i want to fly the angelitos,pedros, messers,chatos,moscas,bacalaos,chirris etc.
let SCW be the "remembered Battles"

XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 07:06 PM
Oh yeah! This Project should be nice for the Il-2 Community!

Oleg, don't worry about if a SCW simulator shouls or should not sell well. We'll buy all that you do!

All my support goes to this Project!

gav1lan

XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 10:34 PM
actionhank1786 wrote:
- Im in for it, i'll sign on to help do research on
- planes and such, also, can someone tell me, did the
- prototype Stuka have a tail section kind of like
- the 110 i guess, and wasnt it replaced for the tail
- now due to failure in dives? Thanks
-
- ~aaron white


Yes, the first prototypes of Stuka did had a 110 style tail section, but it was replaced as soon it was demonstrated that this configuration had structural problems during dive recovery.

For me it was a beautiful plane, but that strange version was only a prototype and never saw combat...


PS: Oleg, we need a response on this project! We are speaking seriously. We have an idea and we will not stop until we see it created.

I remember you that U can contact me on my email: tuckie@terra.es

XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 10:52 PM
I fully support this great idea!
Allso because we have a big med area in Spain...
In Formentera (Balearic Islands) there was a Seaplanes base that gives air recon support to the LW in the north of Africa.
Pease Oleg give us an answer...

XyZspineZyX
03-24-2003, 11:52 PM
TUCKIE_JG52 wrote:
- PS: Oleg, we need a response on this project! We are
- speaking seriously. We have an idea and we will not
- stop until we see it created.

Why don't you start work on this straight away?

Your website could be the main meeting point for the SCW aircraft modellers, working in the same way as Il2center but focusing only in this conflict.

You'll still need Oleg to give you new maps, but making the planes is a huge task you could yo on your own, IMHO /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
03-25-2003, 10:50 AM
I thought we had many of the 3D models already done.

I'm I wrong or I have seen Sparvieros, HS.123, CR-32, I-16-10 and many others????

Maybe this job is partially done.

Has Oleg said something yet?


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XyZspineZyX
03-25-2003, 11:31 AM
Up! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Saludos

XyZspineZyX
03-25-2003, 11:45 AM
Bumping this.
Btw would like to see any imput from Oleg to this 1.

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XyZspineZyX
03-25-2003, 11:47 PM
Maybe Oleg don't know there is a lot af people behind this project and that all us we are waaiting anxiously his answer...

arggg i'm so nervous http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


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XyZspineZyX
03-26-2003, 01:49 AM
ouch, just a WW2 spin-off no real point

Dont really know what it is that you have, untill its gone...

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XyZspineZyX
03-26-2003, 12:47 PM
It deludes the project to me. Go
Greetings !!

XyZspineZyX
03-26-2003, 03:40 PM
I would love an SCW sim.

"Blackburn finally got to make a plane the way they wanted to, they got a solid block of aluminium and drilled holes in it".
Comment on the Blackburn Buccaneer.

XyZspineZyX
03-26-2003, 06:05 PM
Bumpage...


When in doubt,

-Szzr

XyZspineZyX
03-26-2003, 06:43 PM
It would be a great sim!!!

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03-27-2003, 12:52 PM
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XyZspineZyX
03-27-2003, 02:16 PM
I am starting to wonder if anyone in charge is reading this posts, or if it is only a distrction for the mass...


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XyZspineZyX
03-27-2003, 03:35 PM
Lets wait for Oleg to recover, then take a well deserved hollidays and after I strongly beleave he will give Us an imput.

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XyZspineZyX
03-27-2003, 04:40 PM
maybe tomorroy is fridays update day....


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XyZspineZyX
03-28-2003, 04:13 AM
yep, bump....

XyZspineZyX
03-28-2003, 04:31 AM
That's means i can fly 109B,C and D.

S! Support all the way!!!!

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XyZspineZyX
03-28-2003, 11:27 AM
Sounds great and best of luck. Hope you get it up and running, it's a very interesting but often forgotten era. Just like the Eastern front was before IL2. Was wondering though, I've always read that the Germans / Nationalists used Me 109B's and C's, which respectively, were armed with two and three rifle calibre machine guns. I'd guess the D version (four machine guns) might have been flying around there somewhere, but Iv'e never heard of the 109E (guess the E1) with four machine guns and the fuel injected DB601 engine fighting in the civil war. Not knocking or disputing your figures or facts, I'm just curious.

Thanks and good luck on your project.

XyZspineZyX
03-28-2003, 07:28 PM
I want to try my Super Mosca against the Chirri.. the one the famous ace Garcia Morato flew.

Eat hot lead Morato..


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XyZspineZyX
03-29-2003, 12:44 PM
Thanks to Tuckie for this project.
I think that the first serious about the SCW.

My father combat in the SCW as a tank (or some blindate vehicle) driver in the republican part and tell me many histories about terrific the german pilots..

I think that is time to remember this part of the history, very interesting in the development of planes in the following years.

I hope that Oleg think about this development.

XyZspineZyX
03-29-2003, 01:03 PM
/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Yeah !

The more than this project may go quickly alive isn't it ?

Several planes and vehicles that fought Spanish war are already avalable.

I may be wrong, but my point of view is that we first miss the historical markings ... and the Spanish maps. Supplemental local 3d elements can be introduced afterwards.


Frog

Grenouille poilue du FAFL

XyZspineZyX
03-29-2003, 11:48 PM
This needs to be done. It has been for a long time now and I wonder why there has been no attemps. The Spanish Civil War is not only one of the most interesting periods in aerial warfare but one in the modern history of war, let alone its significance as the first violent confrontation between fascism and democracy before the large scale WWII. Aircraft from many nations found their first combat experience in Spain in those early days and the technics ranged in three years from the hand held bomb to the dive bombing, from the biplanes to the monoplanes, from the iron sight to the glass projected one, from the fixed gears to the retractable, from the early century pilot to the WWII team...

And IL2 developers have the means and the spirit to make it true. If those portrayed in the sim are Forgotten Battles, we are talking here about a Forgotten War. And it is not a Spanish matter. It was, to an extend unlike any other civil war, of worldwide interest. When we become aware of this it maybe possible to make it worthwhile the work of a commercial brand to develope its many aspects.

Kuikueg

XyZspineZyX
03-30-2003, 08:11 PM
Yes, we could start modelling planes, but what happens if Oleg is not interested on it? We don't want to loose any hour of work...

Also, we need the exact technical specifications to model the planes. This means n‚¬ļ of polygons, formats accepted, 3D modelling programs to use, versions supported...

Some of our modellers are using Maya... Is there any problem?

For this reason we are expecting some word from Oleg. If he is not interested, he can tell it to us; this project also has been offered to Targetware and they have accepted it, but we decided in a public vote to model it for Oleg.

If Oleg say no it will not be the end of the project; then we will model it for Targetware, with a little bit less quality.

If until next friday (April, 4th) Oleg does not say a word, we will set a new poll to decide what to do...

Salute!
Tuckie


Capt_Haddock wrote:
- TUCKIE_JG52 wrote:
-- PS: Oleg, we need a response on this project! We are
-- speaking seriously. We have an idea and we will not
-- stop until we see it created.
-
- Why don't you start work on this straight away?
-
- Your website could be the main meeting point for the
- SCW aircraft modellers, working in the same way as
- Il2center but focusing only in this conflict.
-
- You'll still need Oleg to give you new maps, but
- making the planes is a huge task you could yo on
- your own, IMHO /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
- <img
- src="http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/haddock/sig/glad
- _01.jpg">
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XyZspineZyX
03-30-2003, 08:17 PM
Hi Pepeloxp!

Do you know that we have a part of our portal dedicated to veteran interviews?

If you want, you can post as a notice in our portal some sort of interview with your father... It could be interesting, for the moment we have no first hand information and we want to interview as many veterans as we can...

Time to remember that forgotten man!

Salute!
Tuckie


pepeloxp wrote:
- Thanks to Tuckie for this project.
- I think that the first serious about the SCW.
-
- My father combat in the SCW as a tank (or some
- blindate vehicle) driver in the republican part and
- tell me many histories about terrific the german
- pilots..
-
- I think that is time to remember this part of the
- history, very interesting in the development of
- planes in the following years.
-
- I hope that Oleg think about this development.
-
-
-
-
-
-

XyZspineZyX
03-30-2003, 09:30 PM
Seguramente el mayor problema para que Oleg acepte el asunto ser√° la falta de datos sobre el comportamiento de los aviones implicados. Existen planos muy buenos, especificadiones t√©cnicas, etc, pero nunca he visto datos exactos sobre el modelo de vuelo. Eso podr√¬*a hacer de la simulaci√¬≥n una mera fantas√¬*a.

Kuikueg

XyZspineZyX
03-30-2003, 10:25 PM
Let's just keep this thread top-of-the-board and wait till Oleg says yes or no. It shouldnt take long.

(edit: I assume he's ill. Let's hope he'll get better soon!)

Perhaps he already owns the info needed... Who knows?

Es un misterio....
Anyway, gotta agree with Kuikueg - wouldnt want a fine sim like this changed into a fantasy sim...


/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

S!



Durer


Kuikueg wrote:
- Seguramente el mayor problema para que Oleg acepte
- el asunto ser√° la falta de datos sobre el
- comportamiento de los aviones implicados. Existen
- planos muy buenos, especificadiones técnicas, etc,
- pero nunca he visto datos exactos sobre el modelo de
- vuelo. Eso podr√¬*a hacer de la simulaci√¬≥n una mera
- fantas√¬*a.
-
- Kuikueg



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Message Edited on 03/30/0309:28PM by Durer

XyZspineZyX
03-30-2003, 11:52 PM
TUCKIE_JG52 wrote:
-- Also, we need the exact technical specifications to
- model the planes. This means n‚¬ļ of polygons, formats
- accepted, 3D modelling programs to use, versions
- supported...
- Some of our modellers are using Maya... Is there any
- problem?


All that info is available at http://www.il2center.com/

As a quick reminder:

- 3000 polys per aircraft
- 5 LODs
- 3 levels of damage
- 3000 polys per cockpit
- 3DStudio Max 3 or 4
- Maya is not accepted.

Before jumping on modelling I'll suggest to get hold of all the information you can, specially good reference material for the cockpit if you want those planes to be flyable.
A couple of blurred old photos won't be enough for the level of detail IL2 needs. We alredy have planes in FB that are AI only just because there's no decent information on the cockpits (like Biggs' Su-2).

At least doing the research now will tell you how far you can take this project. It won't be wasted time.

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Message Edited on 03/30/0310:53PM by Capt_Haddock

XyZspineZyX
03-31-2003, 06:34 PM
bump!

XyZspineZyX
03-31-2003, 10:39 PM
Upss, is Oleg ill? I didn't know...

Hope he's back soon...

Meanwhile, can Cartix, Ian Boys, or any other Ubi member say a word on this?


-Just say YES!-

XyZspineZyX
03-31-2003, 10:57 PM
Capt_Haddock wrote:
- All that info is available at http://www.il2center.com/
-
- As a quick reminder:
-
-- 3000 polys per aircraft
-- 5 LODs
-- 3 levels of damage
-- 3000 polys per cockpit
-- 3DStudio Max 3 or 4
-- Maya is not accepted.
-
- Before jumping on modelling I'll suggest to get hold
- of all the information you can, specially good
- reference material for the cockpit if you want those
- planes to be flyable.
- A couple of blurred old photos won't be enough for
- the level of detail IL2 needs. We alredy have planes
- in FB that are AI only just because there's no
- decent information on the cockpits (like Biggs'
- Su-2).
-
- At least doing the research now will tell you how
- far you can take this project. It won't be wasted
- time.


Thanks a lot for the information. I have searched yet that information on il2center and coud not find it.

Do you know if there is any way to convert Maya files into 3D MAX v.3 or v.4 files?

For the moment we are investigating about certain models... We are creating a large database as a resource center for those planes, trying to grab as much information as we can.

There are some planes, as I-16, in wich we grabbed so much info...

Also, SCW addon could use some of the planes that are under development in Il2Center... There are CR-32, SM-79... If they model it and arrive to Oleg Hands, it is not necessary that we do the work twice, isn't it?

I tried to speak to Luthier about it, but I got no response... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

XyZspineZyX
03-31-2003, 11:34 PM
Alguien habla espaŮol?

Arriba marikita!!!

Orka
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www.jagdgeschwader52.com (http://www.jagdgeschwader52.com)

XyZspineZyX
04-01-2003, 05:45 AM
Looking around the web, i found this interesting site on the SCW airplanes... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Dunno if anybody posted it here already. Anyway, enjoy...


http://usuarios.lycos.es/mrval/GCE.HTM



S!,

Durer


btw: i understand spanish - but cannot write in the language.

________________

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Message Edited on 04/01/0304:05PM by Durer

XyZspineZyX
04-01-2003, 03:36 PM
Bumping up!

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XyZspineZyX
04-01-2003, 06:24 PM
Bumping this until Oleg returns to the forums (they've just said it will probably take long). Just to hear a "yes" or "no" from him.


"""Meanwhile, can Cartix, Ian Boys, or any other Ubi membersay a word on this?"""

I think they are not Ubi members. I think only Oleg can say something about this.

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XyZspineZyX
04-03-2003, 01:08 PM
Agree, until Oleg puts it good we will keep this up in the board
Agredo, hasta que olet ponga ello bien nosotros vamos a mantener esto arriba en el tablero /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
04-03-2003, 04:22 PM
Lets bump this 1 untill Oleg gets better and gives an answer.

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XyZspineZyX
04-03-2003, 11:57 PM
bump!

XyZspineZyX
04-04-2003, 03:55 PM
bumdibump

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XyZspineZyX
04-04-2003, 03:58 PM
Just waiting for a "yes" or "no" from Oleg.





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XyZspineZyX
04-05-2003, 03:34 AM
Sounds neat! I am interested in all elements of military/avation history, especially the more often ignored clashes like North Africa '40-43, Yugoslavia/Greece '41, Malta '41-43, France '40, and of course Spain.
In fact that's what drew me to IL2 in the first place. A chance to fly a PZL & a I-153 & a I-16 & a Yak & a MiG...

XyZspineZyX
04-05-2003, 05:21 AM
Hi all! I also support this work made from enthusiasts to enthusiasts.

Support Tuckie!!

Un saludo a todos.

CN_Vertex
http://cazadoresnocturnos.com

XyZspineZyX
04-06-2003, 04:14 PM
Just to keep it up!



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XyZspineZyX
04-07-2003, 01:58 AM
Hiccup

(er..... bump)




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XyZspineZyX
04-07-2003, 03:17 AM
What a great idea!Italian CR32's and German Heinkel Biplanes and ME109s mixing it up with I15s nd I16s over Madrid and the Ebro. Count me in.

Regards, con

XyZspineZyX
04-07-2003, 11:12 AM
Bump!

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XyZspineZyX
04-07-2003, 12:50 PM
to bump or not to bump that is...

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under 30k?

XyZspineZyX
04-08-2003, 03:07 PM
Oleg, please. Just say a "yes" or "no". That would be enough.

Thanks.





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"Halcones Rojos" virtual squadron

http://alianza.meristation.com/halcones

XyZspineZyX
04-08-2003, 07:51 PM
er..... pretty pretty please?



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XyZspineZyX
04-10-2003, 02:55 PM
Bump!

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XyZspineZyX
04-10-2003, 08:18 PM
I love the "crap" planes (ie: early war t&b) and since it doesn't look like Oleg's working on WWI as the next flight sim... bump-

But maybe the next project is going to be the Med. theatre (I definitely prefer that to the Pacific or yet another BoB/Western Europe) and so maybe Oleg doesn't want to answer because to answer might give away his plans (though the Med probably wouldn't include the Spanish Civil War!?)... does that make any sense??

It'd be nice to get some sort of response from Oleg/Maddox Games 1:C/UBI (anybody), even if it's "no".

Obviously this is a popular idea, seeing that this thread is already pretty long.

Cheers and good luck!

XyZspineZyX
04-10-2003, 08:25 PM
Bump!

XyZspineZyX
04-11-2003, 02:48 AM
Hi Cold Gambler...

Some historicians say that the Spanish Civil War was the first battle of World War Two. So... I think it have a lot of sense!

Saludos Tte.CMC.Costa

XyZspineZyX
04-11-2003, 09:12 PM
Bump!

XyZspineZyX
04-14-2003, 12:18 AM
Bump!

XyZspineZyX
04-14-2003, 04:03 PM
bUmP!

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XyZspineZyX
04-14-2003, 05:46 PM
Really hope Oleg gives a go, Spanish civil war and Norwegian part of WW2(Hope there is something comming out to cover that too, since its perfect for a forgotten Battles title) are the two most interesting battles I think.

XyZspineZyX
04-14-2003, 06:48 PM
Try to contact Cartrix or any other
forum moderator.

XyZspineZyX
04-14-2003, 06:59 PM
Yes indeed the War that was a prelude to WWII shouldn't be forgotten!
Many aces started their experience in modern Airwar in the Spanish Civil War. Famous example is ofcourse Werner 'Vati'(Daddy) Moelders who developed the superior Schwarm or finger four formation that gave the Luftwaffe a tactical headstart over many airforces they met in the WWII airbattles!
Because of inpopular politics the Franco-falangist(fascist) and the Comunist/Socialist Republicans, this international war became 'forgotten' and its veterans penalised alot of times when returning (alive) to their home countries. Here in Holland for instance the volunteers who fought the fascist in spain lost their Dutch civilianship Beeing branded a danger to the Dutch state! (Comunist, Socialist, or Revulutionary)where as a
sad contrast Ex Dutch Voluntary SS men could earn their rights back when 'volunteering' to fight in the Anti Comunist Korea conflict!
Regards,
Kees.

XyZspineZyX
04-15-2003, 09:44 AM
B U M P

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XyZspineZyX
04-15-2003, 04:06 PM
BuMp!

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XyZspineZyX
04-15-2003, 09:37 PM
BULIBULIBULIBULIBULIBULIBULIBULIBUMP!

XyZspineZyX
04-16-2003, 06:05 PM
sigh....

this silence is offensive /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I know Oleg and his team are probably working hard on the patch...

However...

Some comments from them would be GREATLY appreciated - and it wouldnt take so much time..

/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

S!
D.


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XyZspineZyX
04-17-2003, 03:47 PM
Bumping

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XyZspineZyX
04-18-2003, 11:11 PM
Please...
Don‚¬īt let pass that post to the second page till an (yes or no) answer.
Saludos del Tte.CMC.Costa

XyZspineZyX
04-18-2003, 11:53 PM
As I said before, making those planes takes a VERY long time. Why don't you start modelling them anyway?

I don't think you need a "yes" or a "no". Just start making all the aircraft you need /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 02:20 AM
Yes...
You are right Capt...
But all I can do is give some historical information and skining, and I‚¬īm not that good http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Por cierto...Are you (I hope) gonna help us?
Saludos Tte.CMC.Costa

JerseyD
04-19-2003, 12:18 PM
bump



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XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 07:54 PM
you've had my support /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 08:03 AM
I too would like to endorse the project. Its actually something i had also made posts about in ages gone by in fact.

No Pasaran!

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 11:44 AM
Keep on bumping/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
04-24-2003, 11:26 PM
Bump again, looking for an official answer...

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 07:26 AM
I do agree with the idea.

in other words, Bump !

S!
Jokiller.

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 02:24 PM
And bumping it will.

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XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 05:59 PM
yes!!!

XyZspineZyX
04-26-2003, 01:02 PM
Damn, how have I missed this thread for so long?

Yes, yes, yes and yes again.

I would dearly love to see this project take off. (Sic)/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Good luck with the database and modeling.

S!



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XyZspineZyX
04-27-2003, 01:00 PM
Let me bump this too. Currently reading a book on the SCW. Would be neat to see this in a flightsim.



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XyZspineZyX
04-27-2003, 02:51 PM
We have not started yet because we have heard about that Oleg require to his 3rd party modellers that they model on a specific program, on a specific format, ant that prugram must be original.

Since it costs 2000 Euros and we cannot afford it, we are searching:
1. Someone ho has it original.
2. Alternative or cheaper programs in which we could model and then convert those files into the required ones...

If you or anyone els has an idea of how to make it, but on the legal way, my email is: tuckie@terra.es

It there are so much 3rd party models yet in FB and all them has been done in a legal way, we'd like to know how they did it...



Capt_Haddock wrote:
- As I said before, making those planes takes a VERY
- long time. Why don't you start modelling them
- anyway?
-
- I don't think you need a "yes" or a "no". Just start
- making all the aircraft you need /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 12:45 AM
Meanwhile Oleg does not say a word, we are grabbing more and more SCW skins...

They are simulating perfectly those SCW combats... and also post SCW Spanish Air force!

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/grab0051.JPG


http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/snap192.jpg


http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/snap159.jpg

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 12:50 AM
TUCKIE_JG52 wrote:
- Meanwhile Oleg does not say a word, we are grabbing
- more and more SCW skins...
-
- They are simulating perfectly those SCW combats...
- and also post SCW Spanish Air force!



Nice screenies TUCKIE_JG52./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Keep up the good work.

Bump./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif




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XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 01:06 AM
Yo hablo espanol bastante bien, pero no conozco muchas otras personas que habla espanol en este forum. Es posible poner tu site en ingles, para nosotros, los bendejos.

(i asked to have their SCW site in english for all us boneheads who don't speak spanish)

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 01:12 AM
Not to be discouraging Tuckie (I wish you luck in your project), but maybe this is a little bit too ambitious. Maybe it would be more attainable to get with Starshoy, and design a campaign (using existing Il-2 planes), and include all necessary skins and campaign files in one easy to use download. The community would no doubt be extremely thankful.

Regardless of your decision: Bump.

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 01:28 PM
bump guys,
that would be an interesting project- but i guess it will need a lot of historical research- how well documented are the air wars of the SCW?

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 03:19 PM
What about the Channel, Midsea and Afrika? Yoh guys wake up........

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XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 06:38 PM
It,s like a dream, and i think that oleg know something about dreams, (somebody imagine a simulation of russian air front before "Il2 sturmovik", with his sucess and HQ?" and it,s not so difficult, there are many aircraft and vehicles in FB used massively in SCW (tanks t26, bt5 and 7, trucks like opel blitz, motorcicles, of course, artillery AT, AA and howitzers in the two sides of the war are represented in FB.
Aircrafts like ju-87 b-2 (experimental 1939) bf-109 e and previous versions, Ju-52, he-111 (versi√¬≥n A, easy to make) fieseler storch, Fiat G-50, and i could see in development the do-17, sm-79 and more...,(much more)
and russians like the i-16, i-15 (easy to make with the fusselage of I-153) sb2 li-2 (with changes) etc... I think it,s a chance for develop a simulation of a "forgotten battle" in a transition period of aviation history. the door of the SGM.
don,t make this an "forgotten dream".

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 09:18 PM
We also can do it, god idea... As I said, it doesn't matter if oleg answer this post or not. If he does not support this project, Targetware does support it. They are freeware. It's a lot more work, but we are decided to do everyting to take on akead our project.

Nothing will stop us now.



ZG77_Lignite wrote:
- Not to be discouraging Tuckie (I wish you luck in
- your project), but maybe this is a little bit too
- ambitious. Maybe it would be more attainable to get
- with Starshoy, and design a campaign (using existing
- Il-2 planes), and include all necessary skins and
- campaign files in one easy to use download. The
- community would no doubt be extremely thankful.
-
- Regardless of your decision: Bump.

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 09:20 PM
Screenies? U can download all those skins and much more every day from here:

http://scw.webcindario.com/ ( <A HREF=)modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4" target=_blank>http://scw.webcindario.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4</a>


PS: As anyone can see, our domain has changed to http://scw.webcindario.com/


commie1 wrote:
- Nice screenies TUCKIE_JG52./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
- Keep up the good work.
-
- Bump./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 09:23 PM
Gracias, lo tendremos en cuenta. con el PhP no deber√¬*a ser dif√¬*cil traducir el portal en s√¬*... Pero su contenido s√¬* que tendr√¬*a que ser traducido a mano!

Thanks, we will think seriously about it... with PhP, traduction should not be any problem, but it's content, like news or articles, must be translated...

Thanks for the suggestion!



sirmoldycheese wrote:
- Yo hablo espanol bastante bien, pero no conozco
- muchas otras personas que habla espanol en este
- forum. Es posible poner tu site en ingles, para
- nosotros, los bendejos.
-
- (i asked to have their SCW site in english for all
- us boneheads who don't speak spanish)
-
-

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 09:26 PM
Errr... the correct SCW skin downloading URL is this:

http://scw.webcindario.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4



Message Edited on 04/28/0308:28PM by TUCKIE_JG52

XyZspineZyX
04-28-2003, 09:34 PM
Both National and Republican sides were well-documented. Also, we have here in Spain the National Spanish Civil War Archive in Salamanca and the Air's Museum Archive in Madrid.

They are here undiscovered like an old treasure. Time to give the light back to them!

Also, we ar on search of surviving pilots. We know about more than 5 alive by now...



FAFL_Aguirre wrote:
- bump guys,
- that would be an interesting project- but i guess it
- will need a lot of historical research- how well
- documented are the air wars of the SCW?

XyZspineZyX
04-29-2003, 11:47 AM
bump :-)
But speaking as a marketing guy would such a subject sell? For us guys who are interested in history yes and it is a good theme for FB. But how does it fare against north africa, med, italy, early WWII days (invasion poland, holland, france). I'm sure Oleg is getting trillions of requests.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a poll on the three IL2 websites (German, French and anglosaxon). I'd be interested in the results and SCW would get my vote.

XyZspineZyX
04-29-2003, 03:40 PM
If you don't want to wait, go and see if you can get a copy of Luftwaffe Commander. It had the Spanish Revolution on it with all the aircraft we are speaking about.

You might find it hard to get a copy....

I think just about everyone in Europe would be interested in this series. What would really make this sim good would be the Terrain and some of the remote citys in the game.

If we could just change the terrain to a more Non-Green terrain and change the names of some of the cities on the maps it could work.

By the way, did Oleg or anyone develop a Terrain engine mod utility for IL2 or FB ??

Regards
Jib01 /i/smilies/16x16_man-happy.gif


"I thought you told me they would break formation if we pressed home a good frontal attack."

XyZspineZyX
04-29-2003, 03:45 PM
Fafl aquirre,

I think your idea of 3 different polls is good.
before Il-2 who'd have thought that the eastern front would be a commercial success?

cheers,
CG

(and bump)

XyZspineZyX
04-29-2003, 07:58 PM
I think the Spanish Civil War would be an interesting add-on. IF the next sim will be Mediterranean, then perhaps that will be more appropiate for an SCW addon. You might be able to get a second-hand copy of MAx from someone who has no time for modelling any more.
Are any of the current maps possibly suitable for Spain? Perhaps Oleg could be persuaded to lend you his terrain modelling program...

Philips CDRW

Posting vacuous messages since 2002

XyZspineZyX
04-30-2003, 04:07 PM
We are not a request, we are an offer. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


FAFL_Aguirre wrote:
- bump :-)
- But speaking as a marketing guy would such a subject
- sell? For us guys who are interested in history yes
- and it is a good theme for FB. But how does it fare
- against north africa, med, italy, early WWII days
- (invasion poland, holland, france). I'm sure Oleg is
- getting trillions of requests.

XyZspineZyX
05-01-2003, 10:54 AM
I think if marketing is the issue, then IL2 was a risky bet itself (no American, British or Japanese planes).
Any expansion is welcome of course, even if the Pacific theatre is more attractive to me, expecially for the landings on aircraft carriers and for the Japanese planes.

Regards.

XyZspineZyX
05-01-2003, 11:58 PM
I think one reason that Il-2 has done so well is that it is just damn good. The flight models are realistic, the AI is hard, the weather is variable, and the historical accuracy is excellent. CFS3 may have better graphics and 3rd party addon support, but CFS3 is nowhere near realistic, and confined by its new engine and lack of mission and moddeling variety. The CFS3 P-51 is a terrible fighter, while the Ju-88 is a destroyer speed deamon. It doesn't matter where the combat takes place, only quality matters, and Il-2 provides.

now that i made Oleg's life less miserable, i do think that SCW would be cool, but i also worry about terrain moddeling. New textures would be needed, new nationalities, new aircraft, etc. Spain looks nothing like Russia, even the forest and sea textures would have to change. Hmmmmm. maybe they could make a 3rd party mod, since putting all that in an update would be REALLY hard and cause downloading problems for all us 56kers.

XyZspineZyX
05-02-2003, 03:00 PM
Bump!

If we don't get any response from Oleg, we will model the SCW planes for Targetware.

At least, they response... We are tired of being ignored. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

XyZspineZyX
05-02-2003, 06:23 PM
I suspect the following....

Only hard core simmers are going to recognize SCW as a good expansion.

I suspect Oleg would love to do it but Ubisoft may have other ideas. Ubisoft wants to hit the largest market possible and of course that would help Oleg also.

Maybe it is time for Oleg to expand his operation and create add-ons as well as completely new games. He just needs a team for 3D models, Skins, terrain and a few campaigns/missions.

The add-ons would sell well within the community and of course would be cheaper.

Oleg could do sims until he is 90 years old and they would still sell.

I think it is a business decision he needs to look at for the future.....

Regards to all.....
Jib01 /i/smilies/16x16_man-happy.gif


"I thought you told me they would break formation if we pressed home a good frontal attack."

Message Edited on 05/02/0309:25AM by Jib01

XyZspineZyX
05-02-2003, 09:41 PM
I would pay money to by an add on spanish civil war.

XyZspineZyX
05-03-2003, 04:37 PM
vanelvis wrote:
- I would pay money to by an add on spanish civil war.



Bump/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Me too, I don't mind paying money for work of the quality produced by Oleg & Co.

Who could possibly object to that?

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XyZspineZyX
05-03-2003, 11:47 PM
I'm in, great idea. A fascinating era of development of aerial warfare and planes.

And for those worried about commercial viability of a SCW update, I think that will not be of concern for Maddox Games - The Finnish and Hungary campaigns surely don't have "mass" appeal, nor Mediterranean, but packaged with another round of FB sim, feature and aircraft updates, I'm sure there would be a strong following for a SCW release.

Otipher

XyZspineZyX
05-04-2003, 04:05 AM
A month and a half... and we have got no response from Oleg. We just want a yes or not, or even a "ok, we've read it and we are thinking about it". Just that, we don't need anything else....

It starts becoming worried.

VYPER

101 Escuadron de Combate Virtual

http://personal.telefonica.terra.es/web/sentrynel/img/101logo.gif

XyZspineZyX
05-04-2003, 10:11 PM
bump... I've created a new topic on it

XyZspineZyX
05-05-2003, 12:45 AM
Go, please....

XyZspineZyX
05-05-2003, 10:05 PM
bump!

XyZspineZyX
05-05-2003, 11:03 PM
We have added three Fiat G.50:

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/snap276.jpg

XyZspineZyX
05-06-2003, 02:25 AM
Hey Spanish Civil War crew I posted recently about the He-110 and He-112 fighters, some of the people who responded claimed the He-112 was used in the Spanish Civil War. So If you plan to go through with this mod I would love to see that fighter in it.



Message Edited on 05/06/0301:28AM by Ultimate_Stuka

XyZspineZyX
05-06-2003, 01:41 PM
bump,... parriba
oye Tuck, lo del terreno no es mala idea, habria tb que empezar a plantearse el mapa.

bsitos

XyZspineZyX
05-06-2003, 07:52 PM
Bump update!

2 new Chaikas:

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/snap239.jpg

XyZspineZyX
05-07-2003, 10:55 AM
That would be nice!

XyZspineZyX
05-07-2003, 12:39 PM
be really cool if u could create a few missions with all the skins u guys have done etc. I know it won't quite be the SCW but could be fun. Be great to make use of those great looking skins.

XyZspineZyX
05-07-2003, 08:46 PM
Lufthansa!

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/snap273.jpg

XyZspineZyX
05-08-2003, 03:54 PM
Bump!




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"Halcones Rojos" virtual squadron

http://alianza.meristation.com/halcones

XyZspineZyX
05-08-2003, 07:37 PM
BUMP BUMP


Please Oleg, this guys have a lot ilusions and ideas, and they need starting in the proyect. If you refuse this, only need see a NO answer or Yes.



Sorry my english sucks.



S! all IL2 fighters, this game rocks!


PD. Lo que dice FAFL_Aguirre es cierto. Se deber√¬*an de crear misiones con los aviones texturizados. Luego crear un pack que incluya todo esto con misiones mono/ multijugador. As√¬*, se meter√¬*a mas presi√¬≥n ya que los jugadores pueden dar su impresi√¬≥n de como seria nuestro G.C.E. simulado.


Buena suerte seŮores.

XyZspineZyX
05-08-2003, 10:57 PM
We have 2 moscas more:

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/snap275.jpg


PD: Cid, estamos en ello, todo llegar√°... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif se haga el mod para FB o no, habr√° misiones para FB igualmente.




Espa250 wrote:
- BUMP BUMP
-
-
- PD. Lo que dice FAFL_Aguirre es cierto. Se deber√¬*an
- de crear misiones con los aviones texturizados.
- Luego crear un pack que incluya todo esto con
- misiones mono/ multijugador. As√¬*, se meter√¬*a mas
- presi√¬≥n ya que los jugadores pueden dar su impresi√¬≥n
- de como seria nuestro G.C.E. simulado.
-
-
- Buena suerte seŮores.
-
-
-
-

XyZspineZyX
05-08-2003, 10:57 PM
Im with you.

A ver si se da por aludido.........

XyZspineZyX
05-09-2003, 08:06 AM
a que spea~oles, mejor agan su propio simulador si estos no apollan su trabajo, ustedes agan el proyecto, y nosotros lo compramos si acaso


"Never forget the past so we dont make the same mistakes in the future"

XyZspineZyX
05-09-2003, 08:49 AM
guys, keep it up!

I'm looking forward to this and I think I'm not the only one... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
05-10-2003, 03:55 PM
bump! Stuka!

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/snap302.jpg

XyZspineZyX
05-11-2003, 04:38 AM
Boing... bump

bsitos

XyZspineZyX
05-11-2003, 11:56 PM
And more, 10 more!

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW/snap000.jpg


Remember U can download all those skins for Il-2 and Forgotten Battles here:

http://scw.webcindario.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=5

Message Edited on 05/11/0310:58PM by TUCKIE_JG52

XyZspineZyX
05-12-2003, 02:39 PM
Bump- looks good- i'm enjoying all your development updates!
Looking forward to playing a SCW coop one of these days:-)

TUCKIE_JG52 wrote:
- And more, 10 more!
-
<img
- src="http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW
- /snap000.jpg">
-
-
- Remember U can download all those skins for Il-2 and
- Forgotten Battles here:
-
- <a
- href="http://scw.webcindario.com/modules.php?name=
- Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=5"
- target=_blank>http://scw.webcindario.com/modules.p
- hp?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=5</a>
-
-
- Message Edited on 05/11/03‚ 10:58PM by
- TUCKIE_JG52

XyZspineZyX
05-18-2003, 11:26 PM
We have much more other new skins, that U can download it from here:

http://scw.webcindario.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=5

Now, U can choose from download planes by aircraft model or by the simulator it has been done.



Message Edited on 05/18/0310:38PM by TUCKIE_JG52

XyZspineZyX
05-19-2003, 11:49 PM
We have available for download 8 (eight!) more Katiuskas, grabbed with permission from Il2 Skins.com!

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW2/snap330b.jpg


http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW2/snap343.jpg


Thanks a lot to the author: Billis 851

XyZspineZyX
05-20-2003, 12:29 PM
Hi,
Any missions for download?
Bump

XyZspineZyX
05-23-2003, 03:36 AM
bump

XyZspineZyX
05-23-2003, 12:51 PM
There are some missions over at Netwings by Jonny_C.

http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten_Battles/Missions/index-3.html


Billis

XyZspineZyX
05-24-2003, 02:22 PM
Four more!

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW3/snap364.jpg


http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW2/snap336.jpg

XyZspineZyX
05-24-2003, 02:26 PM
YER!!!

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under 30k?

XyZspineZyX
05-24-2003, 09:47 PM
4 Katiuskas more, 3 of them, captured by Nationals:

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW3/snap372.jpg

XyZspineZyX
05-25-2003, 05:23 PM
And two more; the Storch is my first creation:

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW3/snap387.jpg


http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW3/snap383b.jpg

XyZspineZyX
05-26-2003, 03:07 AM
I congratulate you folks for your excelent work on this project. What I would like to see, while we wait for an Oleg answer is a server on Hyperlobby where only spanish war planes and skins where allowed. Maybe mountains to simulate pirineus or whatever you like. It would be nice at least to feel this spanish felling.
Salute to all fighters pilots!
Ok-Unclebob

XyZspineZyX
06-01-2003, 10:37 PM
We have available the Gaston's missions to download!

http://scw.webcindario.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=20

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW3/snap357.jpg

XyZspineZyX
06-11-2003, 08:11 PM
I saw Oleg was here and told he is ill. I hope he recover soon and will be fine.

Meanwhile, we keep working for SCW... Soon we'll contact some SCW real pilots veterans to interview them about the planes they flew.

We were in the Ferté Alais airshow and the Le Bourget Aerospace Museum near Paris and took many pictures of planes that were in SCW.

We have only a few revealed, but see this one, at least you'll see our ugly faces http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/Ferte/102-0249_img.jpg


PS: I know Fw-190 was not in SCW, but I could not resist to put it here! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-11-2003, 10:52 PM
I for one would love to see this project take off (no pun intended/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ) one way or another. Good luck with it Tuckie and everybody else involved.

XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 08:21 PM
*SLAP*

XyZspineZyX
06-15-2003, 10:31 PM
tapas

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 12:23 AM
Finally it has been created a campaign (20 missions) about Spanish Civil War for Forgotten Battles!

Go here to download it:
http://scw.webcindario.com/index.php?newlang=english

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW4/snap451.jpg

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 08:53 PM
Hopefully this Reply is Posted.

Oleg, when you are well and returned from your time off, say Yes to the Spanish Civil War effort.

People not named Oleg... have you seen the neat skins on that website?

Also to people not named Oleg.... please translate the website into Russian for Oleg and English for me.

Thanks in advance.

Oh, and keep up the good work! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
That's to all the people skinning, coming up with planes, patches and so forth.

i look forward to finding out how little i know about the Spanish Civil War. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

"Za Rodinu!"


Where are my manners?
Oleg, say Yes (please? thanks, wow that was easy) to the Spanish Civil War effort.

Message Edited on 06/25/0307:56PM by cascadingstyle

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 11:32 PM
Thanks for the support!

The site is half translated into english:
http://scw.webcindario.com/index.php?newlang=english

Take a llok to the last new: we will model the SCW sim for TargetWare. This does not mean we forget FB... Skins and missions will continue appearing in our website...

We took the decision in a votation... I think that most of the project's people arrivet at the conclusion that Oleg it is not interested in SCW.

Yes, Oleg is ill, but he is not the only one in 1C: Maddox Games... Someone else could answer too, and ther has been only silence.

I'm not angry. Simply they are not interested. So we moved to a company that it is interested... Simple http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-29-2003, 11:27 PM
For those who have downloaded the campaign and has had problems, check our latest news to see the solution:

http://scw.webcindario.com/index.php?newlang=english

Ah, and we have a new downloadable cooperative mission, from Mad_Cat:

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW4/snap477.jpg


Message Edited on 06/29/0310:37PM by TUCKIE_JG52

XyZspineZyX
06-30-2003, 01:42 AM
guys do it for FB

"Never forget the past so we dont make the same mistakes in the future"

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:16 AM
We tried to be heard by Oleg but he simply ignored us, so, as we can do no more in FB to have a realistic SCW campaign (exact version of the planes, new map, etc...), we voted in our website, and TargetWare was the winner.

And do you know what? They responded us giving full support il all in only two days...

I assume that Oleg is not interested in a sim that he thinks that will not sell well...

The question is that we will do everything in our hand to create it, whoever will it support. It's very simple: oleg does not support us. TargetWare does.

And don't worry for realism. TW is equal or better than FB!



Message Edited on 07/01/0311:20PM by TUCKIE_JG52

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:27 AM
Shame Oleg & Co wasnt interested, it would have been a good addon to FB i think. Anyways, best of luck with the SCW project Tuckie /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



Message Edited on 07/01/0311:28PM by Olli_72

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 10:56 PM
Thanks Olli, we'll need all the luck and work possible...

In this post, only remains to put a link to the platform we chosed for the project:

http://www.targetware.net

Salute all in this forum and thanks for the support!

XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 12:08 AM
In despide we develop for TargetWare, we continue to grabbing more skins!

Dc-2 (has to pass as an unarmed Li-2):
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW4/snap590.jpg


5 more Stukas:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos2/SCW4/snap598.jpg


All downloadable form here:
http://scw.webcindario.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=4



Message Edited on 07/21/0308:22PM by TUCKIE_JG52

XyZspineZyX
10-11-2003, 04:48 PM
Look what I found. The first battle of World War 2.

Just looking at the sexy skins makes me forget ubi forums.

XyZspineZyX
10-11-2003, 04:51 PM
My fave. They gotta make this flyable.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/tuckiefotos/SCW2/snap343.jpg

XyZspineZyX
10-11-2003, 09:36 PM
i was thinkin of doing a scw camapaign /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
not looked into it at all mind

XyZspineZyX
10-11-2003, 09:46 PM
cant get the mission dl page :'(

XyZspineZyX
10-11-2003, 11:35 PM
I made aso a spanishwar skin some days ago....

http://www.il2skins.com/skins/screenshots/5751.jpg


you can the skin download here:
http://www.il2skins.com/?action=display&skinid=5751


<img src=http://www.jagdgeschwader53.flugzeugwerk.net/diverses/falkster.gif alt="III/JG53" width="600"> (http://www.jagdgeschwader53.de)

XyZspineZyX
10-13-2003, 06:56 PM
One more /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.il2skins.com/skins/screenshots/5832.jpg


http://www.il2skins.com/?action=display&skinid=5832&ts=1066067790&camefrom=intro

<img src=http://www.jagdgeschwader53.flugzeugwerk.net/diverses/falkster.gif alt="III/JG53" width="600"> (http://www.jagdgeschwader53.de)

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:16 PM
bump

http://www.boardy.de/images/smilies/ylflower.gif
---> http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/did.html

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 11:20 PM
MASSIVE BUMP from me! The Spanish Civil War is a perfect fit for FB:

- Most of the major types are in the game already (albeit in slightly later versions).

- No high alt stuff, carriers, or other activities that FB is unsuited for.

- The I-15 and I-16 get to rule the skies, for real.

- And lastly, who can resist a sim where you get to fly the Boeing Peashooter in combat?


Come on Oleg and/or Ubi, this makes sense!


Here are all my Spanish Civil War links in case someone wants them:

Aircraft that fought in the SCW: http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/did.html

The Bf-109 in Spain: http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/bf109.html

Republican fighter paint schemes: http://www.geocities.com/fare_web/fighters.htm

I-15 Chato in Spain: http://boozers.fortunecity.com/lolos/226/iindex.htm

Site with tons of photos: http://usuarios.lycos.es/mrval/index.htm

SCW mod for EAW: http://home.austarnet.com.au/burchell/SAWhome/

SCW aircraft notes: http://home.austarnet.com.au/burchell/SAWhome/Aircraft%20notes.htm



http://usuarios.lycos.es/mrval/BOEINGV1.JPG

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 11:34 PM
After a more careful reading of the thread I see that the SCW probably out of the question for FB (didn't notice the dates at first). /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Anyway, good luck with the Targetware effort.

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 12:06 AM
You know, if somebody marketed it right, SCW would be the *best* flight sim ever made from an international perspective. Every country that made airplanes had something flying in SCW, and alot of foreign volunteers went to Spain (I know some USA pilots flew I~16s)

Except maybe Japanese aircraft I dunno. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 12:10 AM
The Japanese can be used against Soviet and other aircraft in the 1930s Mongolian/China SCW expansion pac. You see, *everybody* has an interest in Spanish Civil WAR age even, if they don't know it yet.

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 01:52 AM
Great idea!!!!!!!

GATO_LOCO

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 05:21 AM
Bottom gunner position here would be kinda fun.

Ju~86D http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/Media/Ju86.gif

Hard to see against ubi blue, but gunner sits in open car below bomber.



---> http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/did.html



Message Edited on 10/23/0304:23AM by LEXX_Luthor

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 05:25 PM
LEXX_Luthor wrote:
- The Japanese can be used against Soviet and other
- aircraft in the 1930s Mongolian/China SCW expansion
- pac. You see, *everybody* has an interest in
- Spanish Civil WAR age even, if they don't know it
- yet.
-

You're exactly right!

Well, Oleg said that the Med could follow and be based on the 2005 BoB sim engine so maybe a special SCW/Mongolian campaign add-on could come afterwards. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif [here's hoping!] I am thinking that release date may be 3-years from now, but it would be worth the wait.

Unfortunately, it appears that the original poster was not willing to wait that long, and is off doing his Targetware project. I appreciate the skins that he and his group have created for IL2:FB, nonetheless.

--robster(44)

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XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 04:07 PM
Would be grat to be able to fly Fiat CR_32 or HE-112.

Whish this poject come true!

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"A galopar! A galopar! Hasta enterrarlos en el Mar"

XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 04:10 PM
I forgot... BUMP!!

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"A galopar! A galopar! Hasta enterrarlos en el Mar"

XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 04:14 PM
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"A galopar! A galopar! Hasta enterrarlos en el Mar"

XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 04:19 PM
Uh! my signature is dead...

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