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Alya87
11-06-2013, 09:14 PM
hi there, i will start off with "what an amazingly brilliant game "
now, there is a certain soundtrack that plays when you are in kingston, it's slow and mournful some what reminds me with Skyrim's Standing Stones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eAQK64CuLY

i love it, but i could not find it in the released OST

so my question is: will the track be released in the coming days? or it is there but i have missed it?

also, there is another beautiful track that is not included, played in the ending of "Do Not Go Gently" memory

thank you for your time

ACfan443
11-06-2013, 09:25 PM
With regards to Kingston, the only ambient music I'm aware of which sounds slow and 'mournful' is 'fare thee well':


http://youtu.be/NZyW7kHUbWY

@2:20

If not, then unreleased tracks usually surface a few weeks after release.

ArabianFrost
11-06-2013, 09:35 PM
With regards to Kingston, the only ambient music I'm aware of which sounds slow and 'mournful' is 'fare thee well':


http://youtu.be/NZyW7kHUbWY

@2:20

If not, then unreleased tracks usually surface a few weeks after release.

Nah that isn't it. There's this tune that plays the moment you enter Kingston and it's the best piece of soundtrack in the game and certainly something I've been looking fir as well.

Maybe ask that Kosippuani guy on YouTube (can't remember his name accurately), but he usually has a great deal of unreleased OST on his hands.

Shahkulu101
11-06-2013, 09:39 PM
For me, the soundtrack was not as memorable this time. No real masterpieces - I doubt anything can beat Ezio's family, so very moving.

One of the best pieces of music of all time.

ACfan443
11-06-2013, 09:48 PM
Nah that isn't it. There's this tune that plays the moment you enter Kingston and it's the best piece of soundtrack in the game and certainly something I've been looking fir as well.

Ah, I see. That particular piece of music is very nice indeed.


For me, the soundtrack was not as memorable this time. No real masterpieces - I doubt anything can beat Ezio's family, so very moving.

One of the best pieces of music of all time.

Wholeheartedly agree, AC4:BF is backed by a solid OST, but it doesn't hold a candle to Jesper's work imo. I'd partly lay the blame of its lack of memorability and emotion on the total absence of human vocals.

ArabianFrost
11-06-2013, 10:35 PM
For me, the soundtrack was not as memorable this time. No real masterpieces - I doubt anything can beat Ezio's family, so very moving.

One of the best pieces of music of all time.

That may be subjective, but in terms of ambience, AC4's soundtrack created the best ambience and truest feel for the era and locale. Maybe some may think it's not the best standalone music outside of the game, but it's the best OST to play along the gameplay.

Mostly, I can blame that on how "thematic" AC4's soundtrack was. I don't know if you remember, but Lorn Balfe said on the Assassin's den that local music doesn't play that significant of a role into his music, only partially. With AC4's soundtrack, Brian incorporated a GREAT deal of fiddle and local instruments into his soundtrack, making it less orchestral and less epic compared to Lorne's and Jesper's. Maybe it doesn't sound that good as standalone because it had too much of a pirate feel, to justify longevity without the game's pirate context (or Spanish one in Havana). On the other hand, your normal with your Orchestral instruments and vocals, it's guaranteed to have longevity outside of the game. As far as I remember, AC2 didn't have a distinctively Italic theme to it and AC3 only had tidbits of native. AC4 was full-on pirate, but that maybe just me.

DisbandedBox359
11-06-2013, 11:20 PM
Shame as "The British Empire" is one of my favourite tracks from the soundtrack

ACfan443
11-06-2013, 11:36 PM
AC2 didn't have a distinctively Italic theme to it.

I have to disagree. Achieving an 'Italian' sound seems far more difficult than a piratey one. A pirate sound is very generic, virtually any composer can capture it. I'd put Spanish sounds in the same category as well - styles of music which are very familiar and distinct. Jesper managed to make his ambient sounds have strong period influences, far more than any other composer's work I know of. AC1's music sounded medieval and religious, AC2's/ACB's music sounded Italian (which I'd say is bit of an obscure sound), and ACR's music sounded Turkish/Greek. I also feel that it was actually Jesper's style of music which was least orchestral and epic compared to the other AC composers. A lot of Tyler's tracks start off slow and mellow, but then tend to break off into typical Balfe-esque histrionics, not to mention a lot of them sound the same (to me), barring a few of the ambient tracks.

Wolfmeister1010
11-06-2013, 11:52 PM
Ah, I see. That particular piece of music is very nice indeed.



Wholeheartedly agree, AC4:BF is backed by a solid OST, but it doesn't hold a candle to Jesper's work imo. I'd partly lay the blame of its lack of memorability and emotion on the total absence of human vocals.

I have to disagree. There are some tracks in there have tons of emotion, like "last goodbyes", "modernity", "a merry life and a short one" and the british empire and spanish empire ones were divine! The way violin was used in "pyrates beware" is great and "take what is ours" is one of my favorite AC combat themes.

ArabianFrost
11-07-2013, 12:01 AM
I have to disagree. Achieving an 'Italian' sound seems far more difficult than a piratey one. A pirate sound is very generic, virtually any composer can capture it. I'd put Spanish sounds in the same category as well - styles of music which are very familiar and distinct. Jesper managed to make his ambient sounds have strong period influences, far more than any other composer's work I know of. AC1's music sounded medieval and religious, AC2's/ACB's music sounded Italian (which I'd say is bit of an obscure sound), and ACR's music sounded Turkish/Greek. I also feel that it was actually Jesper's style of music which was least orchestral and epic compared to the other AC composers. A lot of Tyler's tracks start off slow and mellow, but then tend to break off into typical Balfe-esque histrionics, not to mention a lot of them sound the same (to me), barring a few of the ambient tracks.

Familiarity certainly can be noticed, but its level of severity is subjective and isn't THAT widespread, but it can be noticed betwedn a certain number of tracks.

Unfortunately, I have to agree on the abrupt change of pace some tracks have, which rather ruins the second half of a lot of soundtracks. The first melloe violin part of "On the Horizon" was very much sublime, but then it broke into an ugly loud noise. Ugh. Consistency of the general mood of the soundtrack throughout itself is certainly one of my biggest complaints with it. At least with "Ezio's Family" Jesper was able to maintain the serene mood of the song, rather than habe it arbitrarily turn loud and insane.

Toa TAK
11-07-2013, 12:14 AM
I think a lot of you guys will be happy with Freedom Cry's soundtrack.

Wolfmeister1010
11-07-2013, 12:20 AM
I think a lot of you guys will be happy with Freedom Cry's soundtrack.

Nope! Lol I saw a preview of hated almost every second of it. Maybe I will like the FULL tracks.

LatinaC09
11-07-2013, 12:28 AM
I hope the Freedom Cry soundtrack is better. The best part about AC4 soundtrack are the sea shanties and the ending song "the Parting Glass". That song is beautiful and whoever is singing has a magnificent voice! Anyway's for future installments I hope we get Jesper or Lorne back.

LoyalACFan
11-07-2013, 12:30 AM
Shame, that Kingston track playing during a rainstorm was one of the most profoundly beautiful moments I've ever seen in AC. I'd love to know the name of it.

Landruner
11-07-2013, 12:41 AM
Brian Tyler is a really good composer - I really liked his work for Far Cry 3, notably the main title (iconic piece of music) - I have the AC4/OST and I like it less than the previous AC/OST including the one(s) for AC3 and DLCs. I just felt that sometimes the music of AC4 was not fitting the game, but it would have worked perfectly as the OST for another Epic game, I am sure.

I see the piece of music you are referred (You have it for Nassau & Kingston) - Yep, the piece is not in the OST, and I am a bit upset it is not there, it is really bad because that is actually the one that gives an iconic sound to the game and it is a pure Brian Tyler signature as well.

ACfan443
11-07-2013, 12:47 AM
I have to disagree. There are some tracks in there have tons of emotion, like "last goodbyes", "modernity", "a merry life and a short one" and the british empire and spanish empire ones were divine! The way violin was used in "pyrates beware" is great and "take what is ours" is one of my favorite AC combat themes.

Going as far to say the OST completely lacked emotion was wrong and unfair of me, but the emotion its tracks did have was not very impactful or memorable, and as I say I partly lay the blame on the absence of a choir. Heck, even Balfe utilised a choir, 'Ratonhnhaké:ton' from ToKW was arguably the most emotionally impactive track of Connor's story arc, and I credit the sorrow-filled vocals which resonated Connor's many struggles for that.


Familiarity certainly can be noticed, but its level of severity is subjective and isn't THAT widespread, but it can be noticed betwedn a certain number of tracks.

Unfortunately, I have to agree on the abrupt change of pace some tracks have, which rather ruins the second half of a lot of soundtracks. The first melloe violin part of "On the Horizon" was very much sublime, but then it broke into an ugly loud noise. Ugh. Consistency of the general mood of the soundtrack throughout itself is certainly one of my biggest complaints with it. At least with "Ezio's Family" Jesper was able to maintain the serene mood of the song, rather than habe it arbitrarily turn loud and insane.

Precisely my feelings with AC4's tracks, especially 'on the horizon'. Man, it started off so beautifully, so unheard of in the history of AC OSTs, that divine violin tune opening the track was instantly immersive and set the mood. Then that utterly unpleasant and dissonant sound came out of nowhere and destroyed the serenity in an instant. It's one of those bad habits of film composers, making tracks unnecessary orchestral in the hope it will be a better track. 'Through the Frontier' in AC3 is one of the worst offenders.


I hope the Freedom Cry soundtrack is better. The best part about AC4 soundtrack are the sea shanties and the ending song "the Parting Glass". That song is beautiful and whoever is singing has a magnificent voice!

This. What do these tracks have the others don't? Vocals.

ArabianFrost
11-07-2013, 12:51 AM
I think a lot of you guys will be happy with Freedom Cry's soundtrack.

I listened to a few of its tracks. It has some African-sounding language vocals and let me tell you, it will blow your mind how immersive and beautiful the vocals will be. Hell, it might even be argued that this track is better than what the main AC4 track had to offer.

ArabianFrost
11-07-2013, 01:03 AM
Going as far to say the OST completely lacked emotion was wrong and unfair of me, but the emotion its tracks did have was not very impactful or memorable, and as I say I partly lay the blame on the absence of a choir. Heck, even Balfe utilised a choir, 'Ratonhnhaké:ton' from ToKW was arguably the most emotionally impactive track of Connor's story arc, and I credit the sorrow-filled vocals which resonated Connor's many struggles for that.



Precisely my feelings with AC4's tracks, especially 'on the horizon'. Man, it started off so beautifully, so unheard of in the history of AC OSTs, that divine violin tune opening the track was instantly immersive and set the mood.

Exactly. This could have been the most enchanting gaming soundtrack of all time had it continued along its initial pace. I would absolutely kill for a 3 minute soundtrack with similar to that of the initial part of On the Horizon.

The closest thing to a longer version of the initial part is a track called "full of adventure" which plays when Edward gets on his first ship with Stede and leaves the bay. In the game of course, they couldn't have the ugly loud part of the track in the game, so they only had the serene immersive part which fit the mood.
God this had so much potential.

Here's "full of adventure"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EH5wYUJMcg

While we're at it, please give kosappiuni a subscribe (youtube channel creator). He's the one that brought us the magnificent "Connor's compromise" snippet as well as many other unreleased or clear versions of soundtrack, such as "full of adventure" which you may have not found elsewhere. Definitely do give him a check for any soundtracks that you may not find in the OST, but would love to listen to.

ACfan443
11-07-2013, 02:08 AM
Here's "full of adventure"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EH5wYUJMcg

While we're at it, please give kosappiuni a subscribe (youtube channel creator). He's the one that brought us the magnificent "Connor's compromise" snippet as well as many other unreleased or clear versions of soundtrack, such as "full of adventure" which you may have not found elsewhere. Definitely do give him a check for any soundtracks that you may not find in the OST, but would love to listen to.

I really do love that opening. Also, is it just me or does that big space next to the ship (after the camera pans out) look like it was originally supposed to have a 'Ubisoft presents' title flash up on it? The actual opening title flashes up fairly quickly (unlike its predecessors).

Also, there's another youtuber who specialises in ripping unreleased tracks, his name's PragPD, and he's uploaded virtually every piece of music from AC3

Wolfmeister1010
11-07-2013, 04:10 AM
Going as far to say the OST completely lacked emotion was wrong and unfair of me, but the emotion its tracks did have was not very impactful or memorable, and as I say I partly lay the blame on the absence of a choir. Heck, even Balfe utilised a choir, 'Ratonhnhaké:ton' from ToKW was arguably the most emotionally impactive track of Connor's story arc, and I credit the sorrow-filled vocals which resonated Connor's many struggles for that.



Precisely my feelings with AC4's tracks, especially 'on the horizon'. Man, it started off so beautifully, so unheard of in the history of AC OSTs, that divine violin tune opening the track was instantly immersive and set the mood. Then that utterly unpleasant and dissonant sound came out of nowhere and destroyed the serenity in an instant. It's one of those bad habits of film composers, making tracks unnecessary orchestral in the hope it will be a better track. 'Through the Frontier' in AC3 is one of the worst offenders.



This. What do these tracks have the others don't? Vocals.

You are always entitled to your opinion. Of course it was fair of you. I agree that vocals are a staple of AC and should have been in. I also hated on the horizon. The only track I actually did not like.

Toa TAK
11-07-2013, 04:17 PM
Nope! Lol I saw a preview of hated almost every second of it. Maybe I will like the FULL tracks.

=( I'm personally loving the samples so far.


I listened to a few of its tracks. It has some African-sounding language vocals and let me tell you, it will blow your mind how immersive and beautiful the vocals will be. Hell, it might even be argued that this track is better than what the main AC4 track had to offer.
A few of it's full tracks? Awesome.

On AC4's soundtrack, I loved that it went full pirate, it was very appropriate to the game and the main theme is great. There are many good tracks, but as good as it is, it hasn't reached ACR or ACII status of top tier music for the series.

LatinaC09
11-07-2013, 08:27 PM
You are always entitled to your opinion. Of course it was fair of you. I agree that vocals are a staple of AC and should have been in. I also hated on the horizon. The only track I actually did not like.

For me the biggest thing this soundtrack lacked was a centralized theme. Yes yes I know it had one but the one it had wasn't that good. The rest of it was too much. When I listened to the soundtrack every track felt like Edward was running around in some kind of battle. It was chaotic. Don't get me wrong that music is fine too but for the whole soundtrack?? No. The music never reflected any other part of his character. I won't say there was no emotion but I will say there wasn't much. It's a shame really, AC4 is such a great game and deserved much better for a soundtrack.

So far I like Freedom Cry much better because of the emotion. The themes are beautiful.

Freedom Cry Preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Jr835mQ-k

Rugterwyper32
11-07-2013, 09:56 PM
Honestly, even though I have yet to play the game (THE WAIT, IT KILLS THE MAN) I've been listening to this soundtrack over and over and it's probably my favorite AC soundtrack so far, followed by ACR. AC2 has a great soundtrack, but I don't find myself listening to it as often, if I find myself listening to any tracks from it it's usually Tour of Venice or Dream of Venice.
Jesper Kyd is a great composer, but truth be told I'm a bigger fan of his tracks without vocals, both of the previously mentioned Venice tracks being the exception because I find those the most effective using vocals combined with some pretty good instrumentation, and the ACR main theme. Spirit of Damascus is my favorite track from AC1 and it's the least vocal-focused one, too. And I still find Hitman 2 to be the best soundtrack he's composed, which doesn't use vocals all that much. The main theme does, though, and it works. So I guess I like the idea of main themes having vocals but not so much when actually in-game.
Another good case of it working is the main theme of AC3:L. Another game I have yet to get (oh man so glad for the HD version) but I've heard the soundtrack and the main theme with the vocals works perfectly.

Alya87
11-08-2013, 09:27 AM
thanks to who recommended asking Kosappi Uni to upload it, i asked him and the good man extracted it !
here it is, enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sObsv8TWqVs

Frank9182011
11-25-2013, 03:14 PM
Hate to bump this but didn't want to start a new thread…

That said, are the ambient music tracks the same in Kingston and Nassau?

PedroAntonio2
11-25-2013, 04:33 PM
Brian Tyler is a great composer...his work at Final Destination intro theme, Modern Warfare 3 ending theme, Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 was incredible and I got upset that in AC4. The Main theme is great, but...man, I wanted something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFb-KOMdij4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdCKaZn5vRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6YE0rC8Kmo

Why, Brian ? WHY ?

I hope they bring Lorne back, I know that ACIII lacked of ambient music...but at least we got Trouble in Town, Connor's life, Wild Instincts, Modern Assassin and Homestead. And we got what in ACIV ? Main theme and that music that played in Blackbeard final mission.

Frank9182011
11-25-2013, 04:47 PM
Hate to bump this but didn't want to start a new thread…

That said, are the ambient music tracks the same in Kingston and Nassau?

Don't want to quote myself but does anyone know the answer to this?

SixKeys
11-25-2013, 04:58 PM
I haven't listened to the soundtrack on its own yet, but I absolutely love it in-game. Brian Tyler's music may not be as distinct as Jesper Kyd's work, but it's perfect for atmosphere. AC3's soundtrack was the least memorable of all the OSTs for me.

Thanks to Alya87 for posting the Kingston ambient track, I love it too. :)

SenseHomunculus
11-25-2013, 05:30 PM
I loved the music in AC4 just as I've really enjoyed all the AC games' music. I like the different songs the musicians at the various taverns are playing, Spanish, English, etc.

The ONE thing that really bugs me soundtrack-wise, however, is one of the "tension" tracks that plays when you're having to sneak around, there's a bell sound that repeats which sounds too close to the alarm bell the guards can set off and I keep thinking there's an alarm ringing when there isn't! That's a very questionable choice of instruments given the context. But otherwise, love all of it.

Not ashamed to say I got a little weepy during "Parting Glass". *sniff sniff*

RoBg03
11-25-2013, 10:21 PM
I think i know the song you mean...i really liked it...reminded me of this one from ac2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVnzpq8nlZw&list=PL7D9E3291662FA776 sanctuary

SenseHomunculus
11-25-2013, 11:47 PM
Does anyone know how/if you can somehow digitize/capture and AC4 song clips on youtube.com that (for example) Kosappi Uni has posted? There are only about half the shanties from the game on iTunes and I'd like to have all of them. Heck I'd buy them if they were available for sale!

Thanks in advance!

DetroitPlaya
11-26-2013, 12:30 AM
Does anyone know how/if you can somehow digitize/capture and AC4 song clips on youtube.com that (for example) Kosappi Uni has posted? There are only about half the shanties from the game on iTunes and I'd like to have all of them. Heck I'd buy them if they were available for sale!

Thanks in advance!


http://youtu.be/bx5uegVP-78