View Full Version : Any Early war VVS A/C flyers here? I'd like to compare notes

10-14-2013, 11:31 PM
I very much enjoy flying online and offline, early war aircraft, especially the Russian I-16, I-153 'Chaika' and I-152 ( I-15bis ) and I'm well aware of the fact they are not equipped with elevator trim ( or trim an any other axis ). This of course means the faster one goes the more elevator downward pressure is required to maintain level flight. This is mildly irritating but workable on the I-16 series, slightly more noticeable on the I-153 'Chaika' but an absolute annoyance on the I-15bis. This aircraft requires a LOT of down elevator deflection at 270 Kmh and over halfway down at 300 Kph. VERY tiresome and makes for a horrible gun platform, which is a shame because its ability to turn and burn and decent armament are hard to put to good use owing to the shakiness. It's nearly impossible to keep a steady bead on with the aircraft constantly wanting to nose up and adding the required nose down elevator puts me far into the band enough to cause over-controlling and abrupt jerking which constantly causes the negative-G fuel starvation issue. My X-52 stick elevator cals work good for everything else and I'm wondering if any others have a calibration trick to make the elevators less touchy.

10-15-2013, 01:11 PM
If I recall correctly, IL2-Joycontrol (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1021) allows you to easily mess with stick sensitivity settings and save different settings for easy re-loading. The downside is that you have to exit the game to change profiles.
I can't recommend any particular profile as I just lived with the problem... :confused:

10-16-2013, 03:30 AM
IL-2 Joy control may have been broken with the additional features added in the v4.10m patch?

Is IL2JoyControl broken for IL2 4.10 now???

I just tried IL2JoyControl with IL2 4.10.1 and there are blank HOTAS controls in the list now. I know they added new Axis in IL2 for Brakes (And Flaps?). So, does IL2 Joy Control know how to handle these new controls? Will it work, or is there a new version coming?? Thx


10-16-2013, 08:40 AM
I haven't tested. Since it works by editing conf.ini it should still work for the axis names that existed prior to v4.10 regardless of the current version. If you have a spare installation to test with it can't hurt to try (back up conf.ini first ;))

For current versions it almost certainly wont work for new axis names unless Oleg_BS (the original author) thought to set it up to be able to read the existing axis names from conf.ini then offer you options to edit them. I don't recall if he used the same username here or at the banana forum so I don't know if he's even still active in the community.

There's also IL2_Sticks (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=332) by FoolTrottel, but it's even more out of date and has fewer features than the other. FoolTrottel stopped developing it when he saw that JoyControl had his current version trumped. He could easily have matched features, but it made sense to not confuse people by having too many tools on offer.

10-16-2013, 05:10 PM
I haven't used IL2-JoyControl to know how it works I was just mentioning that it might be broken. It also doesn't look to have been updated since 2006.

Doing a quick Google search I see that Oleg_BS hasn't been active on the sukhoi forums for over a year and he left Airwarfare as quickly as he joined. I can't find that he ever joined these forums.

Oleg_BS @ Sukhoi:


Oleg_BS @ Airwarfare:

Might be time for FoolTrottel to possibly consider breaking out the programming tools to update his program. :cool: