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Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 03:20 AM
I just wanted to know why there are some people who are worried about or questioning the quality of AC4. I get the thought that some are concerned about the assassins and how the game isn't centered on them, or they think it is. And how the game might have boo boo stealth or how the enemy AI is bootleg. So please vent you concerns, im hungry.

*My opinion*- Since we have the better writer and a possible great story opportunity I am excited for the game, and since I love naval I only have a few concerns.

EDIT: Fixed the title because it wasn't what I meant.

Megas_Doux
09-03-2013, 03:26 AM
That the flaws of AC3 such like the uber linear design and being forced into historic events "just because" appear again...

Jexx21
09-03-2013, 03:28 AM
nothing.

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 03:28 AM
That the flaws of AC3 such like the uber linear design and being forced into historic events "just because" appear again...

I just dont like having all those damn constraints that ARENT OPTIONAL. My biggest peve that carries through out the series.

Jexx21
09-03-2013, 03:29 AM
they are optional

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 03:32 AM
they are optional

To you they are, I have extreme OCD to where if I can't do something I keep trying until I get it, making me do all of them. :(

Jexx21
09-03-2013, 03:33 AM
I don't actually have OCD, but I have the same problem.

Still optional.

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 03:53 AM
I don't actually have OCD, but I have the same problem.

Still optional.

They may be optional to others but it doesn't help to have a giant red X sign of failure on your screen.

eaglefan129
09-03-2013, 04:03 AM
that it'll take awhile to get tp edward's full abilitles/things to do (no white walls and what not) also seeing it's kind off new a continuation of the story that there be nothing new to share (story) as edward is learning about the assasin's templars as well as abstergo worker

pirate1802
09-03-2013, 04:05 AM
Blackbeard.

Jexx21
09-03-2013, 04:09 AM
They may be optional to others but it doesn't help to have a giant red X sign of failure on your screen.

the red x is gone..

pirate1802
09-03-2013, 04:10 AM
I actually have OCD and am compelled to finish every last piece of doable in every freaking game I play. It sux.

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 04:12 AM
Blackbeard.

I can't get a read on you. Someone help me with her? (Going off avatar)
EDIT: After seeing her latest post I can now say we have one thing in common.

pirate1802
09-03-2013, 04:18 AM
The thing I'm afraid of in AC4.. is Blackbeard. Simple.

Jexx21
09-03-2013, 04:21 AM
i'm a monkey

pirate1802
09-03-2013, 04:26 AM
i'm a monkey

A green monkey. No need to repeat the obvious Jexx xD

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 04:46 AM
A green monkey. No need to repeat the obvious Jexx xD

And im Blackbeard

pirate1802
09-03-2013, 04:47 AM
And im Blackbeard

No you are a huge naked dude. You sure you don't need some curtains man?

Assassin_M
09-03-2013, 05:00 AM
The thing i`m afraid of in AC4.........AC4 itself...

pirate1802
09-03-2013, 05:03 AM
The thing i`m afraid of in AC4.........AC4 itself...

afraidception

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 05:08 AM
No you are a huge naked dude. You sure you don't need some curtains man?

Nice try :D. But im not naked I have curtains and im black.

pirate1802
09-03-2013, 05:09 AM
Nice try :D. But im not naked I have curtains and im black.

No you're a Russian dude who is not afraid of his body.

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 05:10 AM
The thing i`m afraid of in AC4.........AC4 itself...

I wish I could change the title -___-. But M please voice your concerns. just remember im holding a gun.

pirate1802
09-03-2013, 05:11 AM
I wish I could change the title -___-. But M please voice your concerns. just remember im holding a gun.

I've already seduced the queen..... you have no hope.

Assassin_M
09-03-2013, 05:20 AM
I wish I could change the title -___-. But M please voice your concerns. just remember im holding a gun.
Well, my main concerns arise from AC III....you have no idea how much time I spent running around aimlessly looking for random quests :| I was embarrassed...It`s like...I marry this girl and...It`s the night....i`m searching for IT....but I can`t find IT...nothing to put mine into..IT is not there....even though it was promised to me D: IT WAS PROMISED TO ME..

My worries lie in the promises...the stealth, the Assassinations, the world...I want EVERY promise to be THERE...I want to find IT when I get married :|

Jexx21
09-03-2013, 06:35 AM
well, according to the picture of the first civ lady from the new manga, they have nothing to put it into.

roostersrule2
09-03-2013, 07:01 AM
I can't get a read on you. Someone help me with her? (Going off avatar)
EDIT: After seeing her latest post I can now say we have one thing in common.What is the one thing?

projectpat06
09-03-2013, 07:49 AM
Well, my main concerns arise from AC III....you have no idea how much time I spent running around aimlessly looking for random quests :| I was embarrassed...It`s like...I marry this girl and...It`s the night....i`m searching for IT....but I can`t find IT...nothing to put mine into..IT is not there....even though it was promised to me D: IT WAS PROMISED TO ME..

My worries lie in the promises...the stealth, the Assassinations, the world...I want EVERY promise to be THERE...I want to find IT when I get married :|

Pretty sure u would know before you got married. You wouldn't have to have had the full verison but I'm sure 99.9999999999% would have had a sneak preview of their wedding night ahah.




For me, to go along with the random events, I would like to have an infinite amount of events and quests to do to actually use all the upgrades we spend so much time acquiring throughout the game. My biggest problem with AC3 was by the time we had all the upgrades and assassin recruit skills, we didn't any thing or reason to use everything we earned. A new game plus would have been nice.

My other worry about AC4 is we haven't seen any of the assassin recruit skills yet. The ones in AC3 were really well thought out and unique allowing for different techniques to take out targets. I want these to return with new unique abilities. Pretending to be a captured pirate escorted by soldiers would fit perfectly fine in AC4. I also liked the idea of being the prey and luring your target into a trap.

I also hope the the story's presentation is well planned and executed. I want it to look god on paper and in game without anything rushed or shortened.

Azurefeatherfly
09-03-2013, 08:45 AM
Well, my main concerns arise from AC III....you have no idea how much time I spent running around aimlessly looking for random quests :| I was embarrassed...It`s like...I marry this girl and...It`s the night....i`m searching for IT....but I can`t find IT...nothing to put mine into..IT is not there....even though it was promised to me D: IT WAS PROMISED TO ME..

My worries lie in the promises...the stealth, the Assassinations, the world...I want EVERY promise to be THERE...I want to find IT when I get married :|

I am dumb and naive, so what the heck is IT? Confused.



Regarding the topic, the concerns will be constantly voiced for the next two months until the game is released and then after that there is be plenty of positive and very loud negative opinions about the game. Personally I find it too exhausting and tiring to complain about games, it felt very much like poison was spreading in my mind last year with ACIII with all the perverse negativity like death threats, so I gave up. Complaining is too toxic for one's state of mind.

Scepticism, Cynicism, and Pessimism will always be easier than Optimism and Idealism simply because Nothing is perfect and Everything is flawed. Perfection can never be true and the flawed will always be accepted and permitted, funny how the Creed can work its way into every part of life.

Come to think of it Scepticism and Pessimism of human nature is a perfect definition of the Templar ideology while Idealism and Optimism is the representation of the hope for free will from the Assassin's perspective.

This has been interesting.

More on this interesting topic later.

roostersrule2
09-03-2013, 09:11 AM
I am dumb and naive, so what the heck is IT? Confused.



Regarding the topic, the concerns will be constantly voiced for the next two months until the game is released and then after that there is be plenty of positive and very loud negative opinions about the game. Personally I find it too exhausting and tiring to complain about games, it felt very much like poison was spreading in my mind last year with ACIII with all the perverse negativity like death threats, so I gave up. Complaining is too toxic for one's state of mind.

Scepticism, Cynicism, and Pessimism will always be easier than Optimism and Idealism simply because Nothing is perfect and Everything is flawed. Perfection can never be true and the flawed will always be accepted and permitted, funny how the Creed can work its way into every part of life.

Come to think of it Scepticism and Pessimism of human nature is a perfect definition of the Templar ideology while Idealism and Optimism is the representation of the hope for free will from the Assassin's perspective.

This has been interesting.

More on this interesting topic later.Next time on Azurefeatherfly...

Jexx21
09-03-2013, 09:21 AM
roostersrule2 will marry a chiclen

roostersrule2
09-03-2013, 09:24 AM
roostersrule2 will marry a chiclenYep because chicken is too mainstream.

AlphaAltair
09-03-2013, 11:04 AM
nothing.

Has to be Yves or at least an imbecilic Yves plant!

pacmanate
09-03-2013, 11:34 AM
I am afraid of all the stealth mechanics being void due to the AI detection system still being crap. Which basically takes the game back to AC1-AC3 again.

Not so much afraid but this is more a concern, and it's the story. I don't think we have had a long, consistent or deep story since AC1.

roostersrule2
09-03-2013, 11:51 AM
I'm not afraid of too much, it seems to be shaping up to have the polish of ACB, the improved gameplay of AC3 and hopefully the story pacing of AC2.

Farlander1991
09-03-2013, 11:55 AM
the story pacing of AC2.

I don't know, in terms of pacing I think ACB is the best (though not in terms of story itself). AC2 pacing really gets broken in sequences 9 to 13 (and I know 12 and 13 are DLCs, but they're still numbered sequences and on PC versions at least can't be skipped at all, not sure about console versions when you have them installed).

roostersrule2
09-03-2013, 11:58 AM
I don't know, in terms of pacing I think ACB is the best (though not in terms of story itself). AC2 pacing really gets broken in sequences 9 to 13 (and I know 12 and 13 are DLCs, but they're still numbered sequences and on PC versions at least can't be skipped at all, not sure about console versions when you have them installed).No you can't skip them, but AC2's story flowed quite nicely, not to say ACB's didn't but ACB really turns into a mess in sequence 7 and even more so in 8. 9 is the typical last AC sequence where it's a 20 minute thing where you kill the boss guy. The pacing of AC3 and the mission design/lack of polish really let it down I don't want that repeated in AC4.

Farlander1991
09-03-2013, 12:07 PM
No you can't skip them, but AC2's story flowed quite nicely

AC2 flows well until the second half of Venice. Then it just breaks. The whole Golden Mask subplot and the way the Carnivale is handled is forced and contrived, the way Arsenale is handled is a repeat of the tasks we did in Venice like 10 missions ago. And then the flow of the story breaks down even more due to the Apple changing hands back and forth.

roostersrule2
09-03-2013, 12:13 PM
AC2 flows well until the second half of Venice. Then it just breaks. The whole Golden Mask subplot and the way the Carnivale is handled is forced and contrived, the way Arsenale is handled is a repeat of the tasks we did in Venice like 10 missions ago. And then the flow of the story breaks down even more due to the Apple changing hands back and forth.Not really, it's all smoothly done. Carnevale was one of the best sequences in the series, I liked the arsenal part and I don't see how it breaks down when the apple changes hands, it just goes from Cyprus-Rodrigo-Savonarola-Ezio.

pacmanate
09-03-2013, 12:17 PM
I thought AC2 got messy at the point where those 2 sequences were missing. Then it was just downhill and linear.

Farlander1991
09-03-2013, 12:23 PM
Not really, it's all smoothly done. Carnevale was one of the best sequences in the series, I liked the arsenal part and I don't see how it breaks down when the apple changes hands, it just goes from Cyprus-Rodrigo-Savonarola-Ezio.

Well, not to repeat myself, I'll just link to the thread where there are several posts where I detail why I think sequences 9 and 10 are, well... crap, story-wise, linking to the first of those in the discussion. (http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/786873-Wassa-Matta-wit-Ezio?p=9220102#post9220102)

And it changes hands more than that - it's Cyprus-Rodrigo-Ezio-Savanarola-Ezio. That is too much. Even Cyprus-Rodrigo-Savanarola-Ezio is a lot. Cyprus-Rodrigo-Ezio (as it is without Sequences 12 and 13) is just enough, really.

roostersrule2
09-03-2013, 12:29 PM
Well, not to repeat myself, I'll just link to the thread where there are several posts where I detail why I think sequences 9 and 10 are, well... crap, story-wise, linking to the first of those in the discussion. (http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/786873-Wassa-Matta-wit-Ezio?p=9220102#post9220102)

And it changes hands more than that - it's Cyprus-Rodrigo-Ezio-Savanarola-Ezio. That is too much. Even Cyprus-Rodrigo-Savanarola-Ezio is a lot. Cyprus-Rodrigo-Ezio (as it is without Sequences 12 and 13) is just enough, really.Okay but you need filler in open world games, other wise it'd be too fast paced and get boring.

Well that's all a matter of opinion I don't care how many hands had it, it still made sense at least.

Farlander1991
09-03-2013, 12:40 PM
Okay but you need filler in open world games, other wise it'd be too fast paced and get boring.

The side-content should be the filler, not the main one. And even then, it shouldn't really feel like filler, at least for the most part (though that's hard to do a lot of times). Which is something ACB did really good, btw, most of the side-content is related to taking down one of the Templar targets and bringing down Cesare's power in particular, even flag collecting didn't feel as fillery because it still was removing Borgia's influence from Rome.

Jexx21
09-03-2013, 05:27 PM
Has to be Yves or at least an imbecilic Yves plant!

nope.

ain't afraid of anything in Black Flag.

Shahkulu101
09-03-2013, 05:33 PM
Sea lions, they are scary mofo's.

ACfan443
09-03-2013, 05:58 PM
Quite a lot. That a lot of stuff will get taken out before release, that there won't be considerable changes/improvements to warrant the numeral in its title, that it'll feel too similar to AC3 (kinda the same as the previous point), that it'll be riddled with a myriad of unnecessary cutscenes - coupled with a 'walk from A to B' mission structure making it feel like an interactive movie, that all the separate elements won't gel well together making it feel like an incoherent and tedious mess, pacing, modern day story....and the list goes on.

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-03-2013, 06:05 PM
What is the one thing?

We have annoying OCD that makes us get 100% game completion that we don't control it just happens

Ureh
09-03-2013, 07:07 PM
The Cube and Juno.

Templar_Az
09-04-2013, 12:53 AM
Just because some of you guys suffer from anxiety disorder (OCD) that should'nt affect the way the game is made. The developers im sure dont take into account people with OCD when they are making this game. So take your complaints elsewhere you freaks.

Anyway, I just hope there is a really good storyline and something that will leave me with intrigue whereby even after I finish the game (which I hope will have a great ending) there will be mystery.

menumaxibestof
09-04-2013, 02:18 AM
Based on what I saw and read so far, I am afraid that the definition of "open world" for the team could be "collectibles". A huge map full of silly collectibles and side missions that nobody cares. Just like... AC3.

That would be funny, considering that was, amongst others, what Far Cry 3 and Blood Dragon were criticizing. Ubisoft not understanding their own games ?

Oleg l Kirrlov
09-04-2013, 02:22 AM
Just because some of you guys suffer from anxiety disorder (OCD) that should'nt affect the way the game is made. The developers im sure dont take into account people with OCD when they are making this game. So take your complaints elsewhere you freaks.
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When did we say "We have OCD, make the game to what we want?" We have OCD to where we need to do everything in the game, not once did we say it needs to be changed to our needs. Think before you write.

Megas_Doux
09-04-2013, 03:20 AM
Based on what I saw and read so far, I am afraid that the definition of "open world" for the team could be "collectibles". A huge map full of silly collectibles and side missions that nobody cares. Just like...any other ac


Fixed:P

plentybeef
09-04-2013, 06:15 AM
I'm afraid of the sun, for which it beats down on me and my crews head. And the gulls that swipe by and pluck our bit of bread we have after a drunken night. I'm afraid of the diseases from the women out in the islands for the stories in some bars, of how some got the fire in their crotch. But the one thing I'm most afraid of is... No RUM.

pirate1802
09-04-2013, 06:26 AM
Just because some of you guys suffer from anxiety disorder (OCD) that should'nt affect the way the game is made. The developers im sure dont take into account people with OCD when they are making this game. So take your complaints elsewhere you freaks.

lolololololol

Don't know about Oleg, but I was kidding. I don't have OCD.... or maybe I do but don't know yet? :eek:

poptartz20
09-04-2013, 09:05 AM
Thinking about it... as long as what we have been told /promised stays in the game, I don't think I'll be too afraid or it.

Actually, I'm kinda curious to see how it all plays out!

I might actually be a little excited. D:

Is this BLASPHEMY?