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Gbucket
07-09-2004, 07:57 AM
This week's development update has been added to the site.


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<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/090704/TBF-1C_Avenger2_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
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<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/090704/USS_Lexington_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/090704/TBF-1C_Avenger1_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
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We've even got a special 1600x1200 picture of the USS Lexington!

The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)

Gbucket
07-09-2004, 07:57 AM
This week's development update has been added to the site.


<div align="center"><table border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="5">
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<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/090704/F4U-1D_Corsair3_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/090704/TBF-1C_Avenger2_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
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<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/090704/USS_Lexington_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
<td>http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/090704/TBF-1C_Avenger1_s.jpg (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)</td>
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We've even got a special 1600x1200 picture of the USS Lexington!

The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php)

mseraser
07-09-2004, 08:16 AM
I thought those F6F shot mean the AAAs won't change in final game?

SKULLS_Exec01
07-09-2004, 08:29 AM
Hey, those shots look great!!! Not sure on those rockets - but WIP so...
The Lex and TBF look fantastic!!!!
Any new info to tell us??? Any other US carriers in the works??
Thanks for the update, they mean the world to us....

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Feathered_IV
07-09-2004, 08:34 AM
Nice.

With respect though, what other nations are represented? I'm beginning to think of this new sim as "U.S. Fighters".
Maybe some more WIP shots of other planned Japanese ac next time?

kikka-01
07-09-2004, 08:55 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
You developer guys so subtle! And I thought you didn't care about all the maps I posted on Midway... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/heart.gif
Check out how Sand Island has been corrected in the one Hellcat shot... really coming along! If you want more building pictures, just lemme know!

Capt._Tenneal
07-09-2004, 09:01 AM
Being that all these updates are WIP, I'll give the developers the benefit of the doubt that a lot of our requests will eventually make it to the final version. My future dev. updates wants now are :

-- more shots of non-US or Japanese aircraft (just to show us that other nations will be included)

-- carrier battle groups (as of now the shots all show solo carriers)

-- US and Japanese Army aircraft (mostly naval aircraft shown, so far. Rightly so, but a few land-based ones couldn't hurt http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

-- more maps or island screenshots

That's it for now. Whenever the developers are ready to show these, I'll be eagerly waiting.

No105_Swoose
07-09-2004, 09:54 AM
Thanks for another good update. Great to see PF moving in the right direction.

I especially enjoyed the Grumman TBF Avenger screenshots. That aircraft is shaping up nicely and I can't wait to try it out in PF...assuming I can get carrier-qualled! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

aminx
07-09-2004, 10:57 AM
corsair with those 2 EXOCET rockets !!!!!!!!

hey, are we jocking or what????!!!!!!
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg

Flydutch
07-09-2004, 11:20 AM
Lovely lady lex!

Will her Sister Sara also be there?
Lex was lost early in the Battle of the Coral sea Sara survived a Kamikaze Hit & the War.

Sara had several intersting Make-up the 30's light grey, and the War time Dazzle and Dark Grey scheme.
If you study the WWII photo graphs (click the link)

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02idx.htm

You will see that cables like antenna or arrester cables are way to thick in diameter!
(I am a Maritime artist sorry but these details mather to me)

Any way sure happy to see the goods!

s.bush
07-09-2004, 11:36 AM
can anyone give us some references on the corsair rockets in the pics with original photos.
cheers
s.bush

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/cors_land_car.jpg

MackZ
07-09-2004, 12:05 PM
YES!!! Avenger! That's what my grandpa flew! Man, I cannot wait to retrace his missions around Okinawa and Leyte. Hope they're included.

http://home.comcast.net/~mackzalin/Mackz.jpg

Gibbage1
07-09-2004, 12:09 PM
The F4U's big rockets were a late-war development. It was a 250lb anti-shipping rocket. It was the first drop and then ignight rocket so it could clear the props.

From what I remember, they were a failure. Very innaccurate and almost never used. I think the TBF could carry a few in the bomb bay. But man I would hate to be near it when it hit! Later they even made a 1000lb rocket.

Gib

Gibbage1
07-09-2004, 12:15 PM
Navy
undertook the development of a weapon of incredible power, the so-called "Tiny Tim" 11.75"rocket. This awesome weapon was developed as a weapon useable by fighters against ships, especially such ships that were heavily protected. Against them, high-speed attacks were favorable, but torpedo-bombing and dive-bombing weren't fast enough. A rocket promised a quick run in and a weapons release 2000 yds off the target.

The strange diameter was dictated by the warhead -- a 227kg (500lbs) semi-armor piercing bomb -- and the casing of the rocket engine, a standard oil-well casing. It was not particularly accurate, with a 4000yds error, due to the fact that it could not be launched from rails or hardpoints, but had to be free-falling before the rocket engine couldignite. They were issued to carriers Franklin and Intrepid, but Franklin's damage in March 1945 prevented the carrier from using the new weapon, although they did serve to increase the carnage on the ship as they exploded underneath

s.bush
07-09-2004, 12:27 PM
thanks detailed reply
the argentinians used the exocet radar guided missile(big rocket)with great success during the falkland war and the missile became world famous soon after it sank the sheffield.this missile too first drops then ignites and then guided by the super etandards radar.
from what you explain it was a just luck if you hit the target.definitely not many pilots cup of tea.
s.bush

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/cors_land_car.jpg

aminx
07-09-2004, 12:35 PM
corsair colours

i am about to start building the new corsair with folding wings 1/48 scale by tamiya.now what is the correct colour for the top side for the periods 1943,1944,1945.i'm not interested in painting it with the korea 1951 navy blue.please advise.
cheers
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg

Gibbage1
07-09-2004, 12:38 PM
Think about it this way. 500lb rocket at ground troops. I think clasifying it as anti-shipping was an error in WWII http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Lol.

BTW. US had radar guided missiles in WWII that worked and did sink ships.

In 1942, the U.S. Navy began the development of radar-guided anti-shipping glide bombs. The first such project was called Pelican, and consisted of an airframe developed by the NBS (National Bureau of Standards) which could be fitted in the fuselage with bombs of various sizes. Pelican used a semi-active radar seeker, homing on radar reflections from the target which was illuminated by the AN/APS-2 radar of specially converted PV-1P patrol aircraft. The PV-1P could carry either two 450 kg (1000 lb) Pelican MK II or a single 680 kg (1500 lb) Pelican MK III bomb. Drop tests began in late 1943, and although these were moderately promising, the Pelican project was terminated in 1944. The reason was that the range of the PV-1P with Pelican was too short, and that there were not enough PV-1 aircraft available for conversion.

Parallel to Pelican, the U.S. Navy developed a glide bomb with an active radar seeker using the same airframe as the Pelican and a 450 lb (1000 lb) bomb load. Because this missile homed on reflections of signals it had sent out itself, it was called Bat because of these animals' echo-ranging and -homing capability. Bat was originally designated Bomb MK 57, but this was soon changed to SWOD MK 9 (SWOD = Special Weapon Ordnance Device; Pelican became SWOD MK 7). Drop tests of Bat in late 1944 were relatively successful, and the weapon was declared combat ready in January 1945.

aminx
07-09-2004, 01:43 PM
and since then the USN has not been involved in any major sea battles anyware around the world nor does it look like it's going to ever meet any adversaries anymore,hmmmm..... maybe china one day .what we have seen is good use of the aircraft carriers in Korea, vietnam,the balkans,persian gulf(iraq)in the last 50 years.
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg

aminx
07-09-2004, 02:05 PM
colours of the corsair, hellcat, avenger, in the recent update.

can anyone please tell me wether intermediate blue with a touch of grey was used for the hellcat and avenger(different quantity of grey for each)before 1943,and wether the color of the corsair in the pics is non specular sea blue or flat navy blue after 1943.
cheers
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg

rummyrum
07-09-2004, 07:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by aminx:
colours of the corsair, hellcat, avenger, in the recent update.

can anyone please tell me wether intermediate blue with a touch of grey was used for the hellcat and avenger(different quantity of grey for each)before 1943,and wether the color of the corsair in the pics is non specular sea blue or flat navy blue after 1943.
cheers
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why dont you research and tell us?

9./JG54 Rummy

PlaneEater
07-09-2004, 10:47 PM
aminx, you're not really in the right spot to get answers to that kind of stuff. Best place to go is www.hyperscale.com (http://www.hyperscale.com)

Go to the discussion forum there, and ask. They'll fill you in with everything you need.

aminx
07-10-2004, 04:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PlaneEater:
aminx, you're not really in the right spot to get answers to that kind of stuff. Best place to go is http://www.hyperscale.com

Go to the discussion forum there, and ask. They'll fill you in with everything you need.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
sorry i was tired last night and i got confused.
i agree with you entirely and i must say these 3 sites you gave me have opened a huge door for my apetite.as a matter of fact on the aircraft resource center forum they have helped me out a lot and still do.in europe we dont have this kind of collaboration and you have to navigate in the dark on your own.i have no friends here who are into serious modeling.Man!!! i have learnt so much about weathering from these sites that i feel ready to do it on the Dauntless and Corsair when they get here with no sweat.all the material is available in my town except FUTURE and blue tack but i'm on to that and the sites have an article explaining where to get it in europe and under what label.
cheers
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg

IIJG11_Spreckels
07-11-2004, 12:54 AM
Has anyone seen that you can preorder PF at EBGames ? $39.99
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/244218.asp

GT182
07-11-2004, 08:34 AM
IIJG11_Spreckels, as with all other preorders at EB, you're better off getting PF when it comes out in the stores. All of us who waited got FB and AEP before those that did preorder. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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HamishUK
07-12-2004, 05:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by s.bush:
thanks detailed reply
the argentinians used the exocet radar guided missile(big rocket)with great success during the falkland war and the missile became world famous soon after it sank the sheffield.this missile too first drops then ignites and then guided by the super etandards radar.
from what you explain it was a just luck if you hit the target.definitely not many pilots cup of tea.
s.bush

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/cors_land_car.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually the Exocet was not a success with the Argies. The Argentinians sunk only two ships with the Exocet and neither of these missiles warheads exploded. Both ships were sunk from the spent rocket fuel igniting and the fire spreading through un-fireproofed conduits.

The Exocet is an active homing missile and intial lock-on by the entendard is only needed prior to missile release.

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/Ham1.jpg

JG51Beolke
07-12-2004, 07:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by aminx:
corsair colours

i am about to start building the new corsair with folding wings 1/48 scale by tamiya.now what is the correct colour for the top side for the periods 1943,1944,1945.i'm not interested in painting it with the korea 1951 navy blue.please advise.
cheers
aminx

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/aminx/113.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Corsair D Variant was painted Navy Blue. the C Varient was usually a mixed pattern of Sea Blue and Blue-Grey Topside and Cammo grey on the bottom. Except the the bottom of the wing was painted the same as the top on the folding section Navy or Sea Blue. (Add about 10-20% white for scale effect to any of the darker colors). They wanted them to blend in with the Deck Blue on the Carrier decks when folded.

Timberwolf7
07-15-2004, 07:24 PM
Cool http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif...but is this game really going to "recommend" 1 gig of ram on the box?