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eXtra_Corrosiv
06-28-2004, 02:35 PM
Howdy,

Been flying the p-39 since fb came out, I suck terribly. When the 63 became available I flew that as well. Still Sucked though. I crash ALOT.

I like a fast plane with the power of cannon, but since I suck SOOOOOOO bad, I also need a lot of ammo.

I have found that I crash bf109s just as easily as p39, I dont like the way the GERM gunsight reticle works in the fw or bf.

I can pilot the la series great, but i always run out of ammo and am usually only good for one MAYBE two fighters before I run out.

I like low level strafing and rocket runs against vehicles and dogfighting. What plane should I try that has cannon and guns, holds alot of ammo, and doesnt have a serious problem with flat spins?

Athlon 3200+ / 2x512 corsair c2pt 3200LL / radeon X800 Pro / Audigy 2 ZS / WinXP / Saitek X45

eXtra_Corrosiv
06-28-2004, 02:35 PM
Howdy,

Been flying the p-39 since fb came out, I suck terribly. When the 63 became available I flew that as well. Still Sucked though. I crash ALOT.

I like a fast plane with the power of cannon, but since I suck SOOOOOOO bad, I also need a lot of ammo.

I have found that I crash bf109s just as easily as p39, I dont like the way the GERM gunsight reticle works in the fw or bf.

I can pilot the la series great, but i always run out of ammo and am usually only good for one MAYBE two fighters before I run out.

I like low level strafing and rocket runs against vehicles and dogfighting. What plane should I try that has cannon and guns, holds alot of ammo, and doesnt have a serious problem with flat spins?

Athlon 3200+ / 2x512 corsair c2pt 3200LL / radeon X800 Pro / Audigy 2 ZS / WinXP / Saitek X45

BpGemini
06-28-2004, 02:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eXtra_Corrosiv:
Howdy,

Been flying the p-39 since fb came out, I suck terribly. When the 63 became available I flew that as well. Still Sucked though. I crash ALOT.

I like a fast plane with the power of cannon, but since I suck SOOOOOOO bad, I also need a lot of ammo.

I have found that I crash bf109s just as easily as p39, I dont like the way the GERM gunsight reticle works in the fw or bf.

I can pilot the la series great, but i always run out of ammo and am usually only good for one MAYBE two fighters before I run out.

I like low level strafing and rocket runs against vehicles and dogfighting. What plane should I try that has cannon and guns, holds alot of ammo, and doesnt have a serious problem with flat spins?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Stick with the P-39/P-63.
Make the spins your friend.
Change your cannon convergence to 100m.

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jeroen_R90S
06-28-2004, 02:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eXtra_Corrosiv:
Howdy,

I like low level strafing and rocket runs against vehicles and dogfighting. What plane should I try that has cannon and guns, holds alot of ammo, and doesnt have a serious problem with flat spins?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Try the IL-2 field mod or IL-2 3 series http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
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Dammerung
06-28-2004, 02:55 PM
Allied
Ground attack: Il-2 23mm Cannons HURT
Dogfighter(Early): Hurricane IIc Best firepower in its time and competes with even the Me262 for firepower due to the 20mm Hispano being properly modeled
Dogfigher(Mid) Spit IXc. 4 .50s and 2 20mm hispanos. P-38J for It's 20mm with .50s.
Dogfighter(Late): Spit IX also, P-38L, La-5, La-7(ShVAKs are Deadly, practice with aim)

Axis
Ground Attack: Stuka Bombs and Cannon... Nuff said
Dogfighter(Early)- Bf109E/F and G2. LMGs to set up Cannon Bursts. Also A6M2- Outturn ANYTHING
Dogfighter(Mid)- Bf109G6 and FW190A 190 Takes lots of skill but deadly. A6M5 for the same reason.
Dogfighter(Late)- FW190D9, Bf109K, Ki-84. Self explanatory.
(Note DFer, as in also BnZ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

Try some of these.

Oh, there are no fighter pilots down in hell...
Oh, there are no fighter pilots down in hell...
The whole damn place is full of queers, navigators, and bombadiers...
Oh, there are no fighter pilots down in hell...

Atomic_Marten
06-28-2004, 02:56 PM
I play alot with 'Tchaika'... has a lot of ammo, u almost cannot stall with it only disadvantage is low speed. And yes, MG version 'Tchaika', not ShVak 'cause of recoil effect.

I-185(monster if u ask me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif). It is the best user-friendly A/C overall IMO. It has everything decent, if not very good...

Kradreve
06-28-2004, 02:58 PM
Mig-29!.. oh wait.. gosh.. enough lomac for me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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eXtra_Corrosiv
06-28-2004, 03:02 PM
thanks for the input. I know I need mad practice.... gemini i've tried and tried to make the spins my friends... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Jeroen, I like the il2 field mod. That's what i move mud with in FB.

Dammerung, I'm surprised the 38 made your dogfight list (thanks for the detail btw) I tried it and it rolls and turns so bad I god worked by emils.

maybe my suckij rubs off on the planes.

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eXtra_Corrosiv
06-28-2004, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kradreve:
Mig-29!.. oh wait.. gosh.. enough lomac for me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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nice. I'm more of an SU-33 man myself.

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LStarosta
06-28-2004, 03:21 PM
Don't take other people's suggestions as the ultimate answer. Try out a lot of different planes, and don't just stick stubbornly to cannon armed planes. The P47, while not newb friendly, is a very deadly plane with eight .50 cal HMGs. It's not a turn and burn aircraft. First I recommend you get the hang of Boom and Zoom tactics, because if you can boom and zoom well and set yourself up with altitude advantages every single time you fly into combat, you will develop a great appreciation for extremely powerful aircraft with powerful motors. If I were you I'd get used to the German gunsights. Next thing, I'd learn Boom and Zoom tactics. Start by entering battle from large height advantage, and diving straight towards your opponent and then climbing back up (zoom climb if possible). Repeat if necessary but dont stick around too long. Learning boom and zoom tactics will open up the door for planes that you thought were damn near unflyable before, such as Fw190's P47's etc. Then after you've tried everything, make your decision. Just don't get discouraged if you fly the wrong plane for the job. Each plane has its own special way it likes to be flown.

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meh_cd
06-28-2004, 03:42 PM
Bf.110 - the plane isn't that great but the cockpit is fantastic. :P I'm hooked!

BfHeFwMe
06-28-2004, 03:54 PM
Gladiator or the Fiat bi-plane, what you can't see can't hurt you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

kikka-01
06-28-2004, 03:58 PM
I like the 110 too! Especially with the mk-108s and 20mm cannons. What a bomber buster! You can always switch to the gunner position, too and let the AI pilot set up your forward shots if your a bad pilot (LOL)!

dieg777
06-28-2004, 04:08 PM
Try the Spitfires as good all rounders but also try the ME 109s to learn from -once you can handle ( and land ) them then others are easier

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Gunner learn to fly
Gunner learn to shoot
Gunner not run out of bullets just as I get on his six

p1ngu666
06-28-2004, 04:15 PM
fly online, become a plane **** http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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eXtra_Corrosiv
06-29-2004, 10:53 AM
thank you to whoever told me to set convergance at 100m. I got 3 kills in one mission with the LA7 (2 cannon '44). 2 bombers and one bf109k.

AND I still had ammo, 3 one second bursts, left when I got done!

I have a question about the german gunsights. First off, I tried the tutorial, but the tiutorial uses wonder woman mode which I don't.

How come sometimes onloy a tiny piece of the reticle is visible on the hud no matter what kinda load I put on the frame, and sometimes when i add load it becomes fully visable.?.?.?.?

can someone explain the way to actually hit something with all those nice weapons the GERM planes mount?


tia

Athlon 3200+ / 2x512 corsair c2pt 3200LL / radeon X800 Pro / Audigy 2 ZS / WinXP / Saitek X45

Tully__
06-29-2004, 11:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eXtra_Corrosiv:

I have a question about the german gunsights....How come sometimes onloy a tiny piece of the reticle is visible on the hud no matter what kinda load I put on the frame, and sometimes when i add load it becomes fully visable.?.?.?.?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Shift-F1

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M.R.Maiornikov
06-29-2004, 11:03 AM
I-185 rulez http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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eXtra_Corrosiv
06-29-2004, 11:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eXtra_Corrosiv:

I have a question about the german gunsights....How come sometimes onloy a tiny piece of the reticle is visible on the hud no matter what kinda load I put on the frame, and sometimes when i add load it becomes fully visable.?.?.?.?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Shift-F1
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Tully<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

isn't shift + f1 = wonder woman view. the flying reticle? I hate that.

Is there a way to properly use the reticle, or is there something im doing wrong like going too slow or did the germans always turn their cockpits off when they had a shot lined up?

i'd rather not resort to wonder woman

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Tully__
06-29-2004, 11:12 AM
Ctrl-F1 is WW view. Try Shift-F1

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eXtra_Corrosiv
06-29-2004, 11:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
Ctrl-F1 is WW view. Try Shift-F1


Salut
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Danke.

I'll try tonight. thanks Tully.

Athlon 3200+ / 2x512 corsair c2pt 3200LL / radeon X800 Pro / Audigy 2 ZS / WinXP / Saitek X45

hughlb2
06-29-2004, 11:16 AM
Spit IXe, nuff saidhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
(but wait for 2.02 to fix the FM first)

BpGemini
06-29-2004, 11:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eXtra_Corrosiv:
thank you to whoever told me to set convergance at 100m. I got 3 kills in one mission with the LA7 (2 cannon '44). 2 bombers and one bf109k.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


No problem.

Just remember that's a nose cannon convergence. Once you switch to a plane with wing mounted cannons that convergence may not work so well. Depending on your flying style.

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eXtra_Corrosiv
06-29-2004, 01:34 PM
WELL,....in the cobras, my style is to struggle to stay in the air and point the plane generally toward the enemy, cut loose with the 37 and hope they fly into it. hehehe


My style with the turn fighters (la, yak, etc) is to deny the vertical, make the ai do their stupid impossible slow barrel roll, pull a slow high yo or something and cut loose at the cockpit from point blank range.

in the LA with the new convergence I deal death to bombers with impunity.

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BpGemini
06-29-2004, 01:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eXtra_Corrosiv:
WELL,....in the cobras, my style is to struggle to stay in the air and point the plane generally toward the enemy, cut loose with the 37 and hope they fly into it. hehehe


My style with the turn fighters (la, yak, etc) is to deny the vertical, make the ai do their stupid impossible slow barrel roll, pull a slow high yo or something and cut loose at the cockpit from point blank range.

in the LA with the new convergence I deal death to bombers with impunity.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Sounds good. Now get online! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
That's where it gets fun... seriously

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Kaesebrot.
06-29-2004, 01:42 PM
I´d try to stick with p39/Q-10. Very good overall plane. Excellent (Gun)Sight. Powerful Weaponry. 1-2 Bullets and any fighter would go down. But you gotta come VERY close in order not to waste your ammo. Took myself some time to practice, but in the end you´ll like it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BpGemini
06-29-2004, 02:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trigger666:
I´d try to stick with p39/Q-10. Very good overall plane. Excellent (Gun)Sight. Powerful Weaponry. 1-2 Bullets and any fighter would go down. But you gotta come VERY close in order not to waste your ammo. Took myself some time to practice, but in the end you´ll like it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I've always preferred the Q1 to the Q10 even though the Q10 is a better performer.

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eXtra_Corrosiv
06-29-2004, 02:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BpGemini:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trigger666:
I´d try to stick with p39/Q-10. Very good overall plane. Excellent (Gun)Sight. Powerful Weaponry. 1-2 Bullets and any fighter would go down. But you gotta come VERY close in order not to waste your ammo. Took myself some time to practice, but in the end you´ll like it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I've always preferred the Q1 to the Q10 even though the Q10 is a better performer.

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gemini, where can i catch you online and fly some 39s or 63s with you?

I kinda have always used sims as single player entertainment. will I have to use CEM if i play online as i dont right now?

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Kaesebrot.
06-29-2004, 02:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BpGemini:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trigger666:
I´d try to stick with p39/Q-10. Very good overall plane. Excellent (Gun)Sight. Powerful Weaponry. 1-2 Bullets and any fighter would go down. But you gotta come VERY close in order not to waste your ammo. Took myself some time to practice, but in the end you´ll like it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I've always preferred the Q1 to the Q10 even though the Q10 is a better performer.

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Because the Q1 got more 50s? Thats an argument, but i for myself dont use the 50s at all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

civildog
07-15-2004, 12:00 AM
The Q-10 Cobra!!! http://mysite.verizon.net/res8t88p/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/5814.jpg.w560h420.jpg


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Atomic_Marten
07-15-2004, 01:30 AM
I don't belive you. I don't think you suck. Nobody can be bad if she/he plays this game for several months especially if stick with particular bird. If you want to improve more, the best way is online FR servers, or just go offline and play a Russian P-39 campaign from '41 (after 1-1,5 year you'll be able to convert on Cobra) on 'realistic' difficulty settings.(After 250&gt; finished missions you cannot suck!)

If u got trackIR - jolly good show then.

However P-39 was not American favourite bird I give you a credit for that..

Off all Cobra variants Q1 is maybe the best choice, but for best results Q10 off course. Man when u got boogie on 6 and invert her (Q10) then quickly make loop towards earth, few of them could follow...

eXtra_Corrosiv
07-15-2004, 09:22 AM
to update, I have been flying the bf109 g-6 and g-10, getting many kills. I have also come to grips with the cobra and rarely spin that badly. the convergence, and the advice to wait really helped me.

the other night in a bf109 campaign I killed 3 yaks in one pass with the nose cannon. Good kills too with fully detonating planes.

This sim has been much more fun for me since this topic started. thanks all...

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Waldo.Pepper
07-15-2004, 09:47 AM
I love a happy ending. :0